Virginia Gov. Abigail Spanberger rolled out a kind of political flea circus this week with an anti-ICE executive order that would purportedly keep ICE out of polling places and other commonwealth areas. It did not matter that the order has no real impact on ICE. The important thing is the appearance of an impact on ICE.
In the movie Jurassic Park, character John Hammond explained how he got a start by creating flea circuses:
“You know the first attraction I ever built when I came down south from Scotland? It was a Flea Circus, Petticoat Lane. Really quite wonderful. We had a wee trapeze, and a merry-go… carousel and a seesaw. They all moved, motorized of course, but people would say they could see the fleas. “Oh, I see the fleas, mummy! Can’t you see the fleas?” Clown fleas and high wire fleas and fleas on parade.”
Spanberger unveiled her own flea circus attraction this week with an executive order ordering state employees to get federal agents to produce a valid warrant on “property of the Commonwealth” and instructs them to “not permit” federal agents to use those areas as staging or processing locations. She told the media that this was particularly at polling sites.
The illusion was assisted by MSNOW, which portrayed one of their favorite politicians as protecting polling places and, of course, democracy. MS Now host Jonathan Capehart asked, “How concerned are you that he will send either the military or the National Guard or even ICE to polling places, and what can you do, if anything, to stop him?”
Spanberger explained ominously:
“The reality is, throughout history, we have seen efforts at intimidating voters. My worry is we will continue to see those heightened… I’ll be issuing guidance across public spaces, including polling places, of how Virginia state employees can react to federal agents who might be appearing at a location where the worry is that they’re principally there to intimidate or scare people.”
Neither, of course, mentioned that there are already federal barriers to such intrusion into polling places. For example, 18 U.S.C. 592 states in part:
“Whoever, being an officer of the Army or Navy, or other person in the civil, military, or naval service of the United States, orders, brings, keeps, or has under his authority or control any troops or armed men at any place where a general or special election is held, unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both; and be disqualified from holding any office of honor, profit, or trust under the United States.”
That provision includes all federal civil personnel, including ICE.
While there might be instances in which federal officials respond to requests from local or state law enforcement to address a specific criminal act, there is already a general bar on posting or stationing such personnel at polling places.
As for the suggestion of other bars on ICE operating on Commonwealth property, good luck with that. Various Democratic governors and legislatures have moved to impose limitations, which are clearly unconstitutional. Indeed, we have seen at least one judge convicted of trying to bar ICE from a courthouse and assisting the escape of an individual sought by agents.
Notably, Spanberger is aware of these limits after she vetoed a separate bill that would have banned ICE from making detentions in hospitals, schools, courthouses, and polling places without a judicial warrant or subpoena. She recognized that such laws “would create unavoidable legal liability for security personnel and local law enforcement officers when assessing federal immigration enforcement activities in certain protected areas.”
Instead, she offered an illusory executive order that reaffirmed her image as an anti-ICE governor who is cutting off ICE in the state. It is doubtful that this order will ever be challenged because it is unlikely to be actually used as authority for any action.
For diehard Democrats, they could swear that they see the fleas moving the merry-go-round.
I’m going to pay a person to leave the country and set up shop in another. Tired of playing let’s pretend that’s an actual government. I’d leave myself but am a cripple. Can’t travel etc.
I’ll get feed back in that way. Free speech huh? People sit around playing pretend.
So long and good luck. We must have missed the rapture.
Keep on censoring, Darren. 😂
“there are already federal barriers to such intrusion into polling places” which don’t matter at all when the person ordering this intrusion can pardon them for the intrusion, the same as he pardoned the January 6th hooligans he unleashed on the Capitol building and its occupants. Unlike the last time, Trump will remain President for 2 years more after the midterms. He needs the Congress to remain firmly Republican or risk being impeached, tried, convicted, and removed from office and, like any other mob boss, will do what is necessary to stay in power.
The Supreme Court has already ruled that Federal Regulations do not apply when Trump says they don’t.
Clearly Professor Turley want his gullible audience to focus elsewhere.
The last incident of actual voter intimidation I recall happened some years ago when Obama was running for president. A self identified Black Panther was threatening white voters trying to enter a polling place to vote. He was arrested and charged. Eric Holder dropped the charges when he was confirmed as AG and Obama’s wingman.
Oh, no! Two guys and only one was arrested and charged? In 2008?
The charge was under the Voting Rights Act – the law that the Supreme Court recently gutted.
“So, the lunatics have taken charge of the asylum.”
– Richard Rowland, 1919
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Now I see the fundamental problem in need of correction and complete remediation.
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Greece, 508 B.C. The Origination of Democracy – Who Was Allowed to Vote?
To cast a vote in the Ekklesia (the citizens’ assembly), a person had to meet strict criteria:
– Male
– Free-born
– Athenian citizen (born to Athenian parents)
– Adult (typically having completed military service as an ephebe)
Because of these steep restrictions, it is estimated that only 10% to 20% of the total population of Athens was actually eligible to vote. The rest of the population had no say in passing laws, declaring wars, or electing officials.
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America, 1788, Voter Qualifications: Male, European, and 21 with 50 lbs. Sterling or 50 acres.
State legislatures failed to maintain the imperative, rigorous criteria.
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“the people are nothing but a great beast…
I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value.”
– Alexander Hamilton
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“The true reason (says Blackstone) of requiring any qualification, with regard to property in voters, is to exclude such persons, as are in so mean a situation, that they are esteemed to have no will of their own.”
“If it were probable that every man would give his vote freely, and without influence of any kind, then, upon the true theory and genuine principles of liberty, every member of the community, however poor, should have a vote…”
“But since that can hardly be expected, in persons of indigent fortunes, or such as are under the immediate dominion of others, all popular states have been obliged to establish certain qualifications, whereby, some who are suspected to have no will of their own, are excluded from voting; in order to set other individuals, whose wills may be supposed independent, more thoroughly upon a level with each other.”
– Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, 1775
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“[We gave you] a [severely restricted-vote] republic, if you can keep it.”
– Ben Franklin, 1787
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Then you know its a Chinese Communist Party bot. It is programmed to show up here every day with commie talking points, and insults to the gracious host of this blog.
Nutchachacha!
Turley Writes:
Neither, of course, mentioned that there are already federal barriers to such intrusion into polling places.
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Officials in the Food and Drug Administration’s tobacco center were blindsided by a recent decision that opens the door to allowing more unauthorized electronic cigarettes and nicotine pouches onto the U.S. market, The Associated Press has learned.
The guidelines, posted online earlier this month before former FDA Commissioner Marty Makary resigned, will allow companies to launch certain nicotine-based products before they’ve been fully vetted by regulators.
Some FDA officials tasked with enforcing vaping regulations were not consulted on the changes and only learned of them the night before the document was published, according to two staffers who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity to discuss confidential agency matters. The document’s sudden appearance sparked internal confusion about how the policy came about and who authorized it, the staffers said.
https://apnews.com/article/fda-vaping-ecigarettes-trump-makary-fe31c6e2dcda2f077134faa25e7012ad
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Again, this administration doesn’t really care about Federal rules and regulations. So Spanberger is perfectly justified in not trusting ICE. With regards to this article, Trump was essentially ‘bought’ by the vaping lobby.
Turley Writes:
Neither, of course, mentioned that there are already federal barriers to such intrusion into polling places.
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Since when has Donald Trump cared about Federal law??? ICE has arrested hundreds with no Federal warrants. Federal prosecutors have routinely lied in Federal court. In fact, many Federal prosecutors are only ‘acting’ as such and no real legal standing.
ICE agents NEVER needed a warrant when then are holding a deportation order from a federal immigration court for named person. Your post is 100% purse BS. Please go back on your meds. For the sake of the children.
ICE has entered numerous homes with no warrants
https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-trump-00d0ab0338e82341fd91b160758aeb2d
why don’t you admit that even the article you cited refers to entry without a warrant FOLLOWING A JUDICIAL ORDER OF REMOVAL. Why don’t you read what you post–it will help you grow your intelligence to man-level.
https://apnews.com/article/ice-immigration-arrest-warrants-093a91cf0d3b2a93247dd83e9e5fac03
here, psuedo-lawyer
a. https://www.scribd.com/document/991218856/United-States-v-Gutierrez-Casada
b. https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/ice-cbp-legal-analysis/
“Federal agents (including ICE and CBP) are allowed to arrest anyone for whom they have a warrant signed by a federal judge, or an “administrative warrant” filled out by ICE. In addition to the I-205 form, issued for people who have already been ordered removed by an immigration judge, ICE can issue an I-200 form — which they also call an “administrative warrant.” — This form is used for anyone federal agents believe to be present in the United States in violation of federal immigration law. Someone may be the target of Form I-200 if they are in removal proceedings before an immigration judge; if their visa has expired and they do not appear to have left the United States; or if they have been arrested by another law enforcement agency that shares information with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that shows they are removable.
“Under some circumstances, ICE and CBP can arrest someone even without having a warrant. There are two requirements for a warrantless arrest: agents must have probable cause to believe that the person is in the United States without valid legal status, and agents must determine that the person is ‘likely to escape’ if not immediately arrested. Both requirements must be fulfilled in order for an agent to arrest a person.
americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/ice-cbp-legal-analysis/
a. https://www.scribd.com/document/991218856/United-States-v-Gutierrez-Casada
President Trump has a 90%+ win rate at SCOTUS. Your nonsense isbt supported by any real legal evidence. You swallowed and regurgitated Leftist propaganda, nothing more.
The Federalist Society has a nearly 100% record of telling Trump how the conservatives on the Supreme Court would rule. I expect the failures are the ones where Trump went against what the Federalist Society wanted.
As usual Turley is being deliberately disingenuous and deliberately stoking the rage that he so hypocritically condemns in his stupid books and his rants here.
He says that there is no need for Spanberger’s order because there is already a federal statute that bans ICE or any other armed federal officer from polling places.
However, what he fails to say is that the enforcement of that federal statute falls to the federal authorities, not the State authorities. It presumes that Trump would enforce the statute and order that his officers do not interfere at polling places.
But Trump has already explicitly stated that he plans to order ICE agents and other federal officers to interfere in violation of the federal statute.
Spanberger is simply taking Trump at his word that he will order his officers to violate the law, and thus fail in his duty to enforce federal law.
Spanberger is simply empowering state authorities to act to protect polling places from federal agents, because Trump has explicitly stated he intends to violate the federal law.
Turley knows perfectly well that this is the reason for Spanberger’s order, and yet he deliberately and disingenuously and hypocritically and knowingly writes this screed of nonsense for the sole purpose of stoking the rage of the MAGA mob. He is stoking the very rage that he so hypocritically condemns.
ha ha ha ROFLMAO
you make the funniest posts
Nothing to do with reality of course.
The MAGA mob, as you call it, doesn’t seem full of rage these days, but the pro-Hamas, antisemitic left does. Why do you come to this blog if you dislike what he has to say so much that you pen 226 nonsensical words?
The MAGA mob isn’t losing an election, yet. They literally climbed the walls the last time that happened.
The MAGA should be angry that fuel prices have nearly doubled, that food costs considerably more, that wage increases are falling far behind, and that not a single economic promise that Trump has made has been fulfilled. The fiscal conservatives should be storming the White House over his ballroom plans, dealing himself $1.8 Billion in cash, putting his image on American institutions in a way that makes dictators blush.
But they won’t be because Trump is deporting house keepers and roofers and they rejoice in the hate.
Wow, you swallow that Leftist nonsense from MSNow like a champ.