Below is my column on Fox.com on yesterday’s “testimony” from Dr. Anthony Fauci. Americans deserve answers to the questions raised by his diary and other remarks. The most likely course to gain such answers would be through an immunity grant. The impact of a pardon on invocations is a bit murky but, as I stated yesterday, the odds favor Fauci in a court finding that he can still invoke the privilege. In any challenge, a court would likely find that there remains a risk of self-incrimination. What is clear is that many in Washington would prefer Fauci to remain silent on the questions raised by his diary.
Here is the column:
“Stick with the science and never veer from that, even when the science turns out to be an inconvenient truth for somebody.” Dr. Anthony Fauci delivered those words to Georgetown students in 2017 as the touchstone of medical ethics. Today, before the Senate Homeland Security Committee, that line was replaced by Fauci in repeating “On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.”
The optics could not have been worse, but what you saw depended largely on how you viewed the hearing. For critics, Fauci sounded like Crazy Joe Gallo without the sunglasses. For supporters, Fauci is still a hero who refused to fall into a trap laid out before him. Democratic senators such as Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) actually praised Fauci for refusing to answer questions before Congress.
There is no question that it is Fauci’s right to refuse to invoke his privilege against self-incrimination and many advised him to do so. It could be taken for strategic reasons separate from any criminal culpability. After all, he was given a last-minute pardon by President Joe Biden, and any false statements he made before the Committee could be used to bring criminal charges against him.
However, Fauci is unlike many who have invoked the privilege. While many past witnesses have invoked the privilege in being called to Congress, Fauci has testified for days in countless prior hearings. He also has appeared in countless interviews on these issues. He had reason to fear this hearing after his diary revealed startling contradictions with what he was stating publicly.
The question many will ask is why Fauci could not just “stick with the science” and resolve these contradictions. The fact is that he would have had difficulty in dealing with his own “inconvenient truths.”
Fauci’s opening statement expressed obvious anger over the release of his “unredacted diary.”
The new evidence shows that Fauci connected the Wuhan lab to the emerging crisis before most people had ever heard of the lab. It also shows him repeatedly referencing the lab’s gain-of-function work and discounted the “wet market” as the true origin of the virus as opposed to an “amplifier.”
Some of the most embarrassing areas for Fauci concerned his entries acknowledging that he pushed to close schools, despite public denials that he ever recommended such closures. His entries take credit for convincing figures such as then-New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, the staff of California Gov. Gavin Newsom, and others to close the schools.
In an Oct. 16, 2022, ABC interview, Fauci repeated that denial: “They always come back and say, ‘Fauci was responsible for shutting schools down.’ I had nothing to do [with it]!”
The media has also taken the Fifth on these subjects, declining to publish many of these contradictions. They have the same reason as Fauci: there are no spins that would reconcile their own prior coverage and gushing reviews of Fauci. The diary entries also show disturbing references to private meetings with media figures.
Fauci’s diary refers to CNN anchor Jake Tapper 41 times. In some entries, Fauci suggested that the host was concerned about crafting an interview to better serve Fauci: “Jake wanted to make sure the interview did not cause me any problems.” Fauci also related how he met socially with Tapper in July 2020: “Had dinner over Jake Tapper and Jen Tapper’s home in DC. Terrific couple. Friendship building.” (Notably, on October 14, 2020, CNN published a report repeating the condemnation of the dangers of “small household gatherings.”).
The diary revealed an obsession with his publicity and access to celebrities. The diary is replete with his gushing accounts of himself, such as “It is not hyoperbole [sic] to say that today I am the most famous and talked about person in the country and one of the most recognizable peson [sic] in the world.”
The fact is that diaries tend to be self-obsessed, and no one would want their unvarnished private thoughts made public. Rather, my gripe with these passages is something I have previously written in criticism of Fauci. During this period, dissenting scientists were barred from social media, removed from positions, and vilified for expressing views, despite now being vindicated on subjects ranging from the lab origin of the virus, the efficacy of masks, the six-foot rule, natural immunities, and school closures.
As these courageous scientists were being abused (by academic and media figures who still hold their positions), Fauci said not a word in their defense despite privately acknowledging that they could be right.
Yet, Fauci remained silent as his allies in the media savaged those who voiced the view that the virus was man-made and escaped from the lab.
In 2021, New York Times science and health reporter Apoorva Mandavilli was still calling on reporters not to mention the “racist” lab theory. (Federal agencies found the lab theory to be the most credible despite Fauci claiming publicly that a natural origin was the most likely explanation).
Fauci stayed silent while relishing his celebrity status. Indeed, his diary shows no concerns for these scientists as he breathlessly recounted his bobbleheads and cover shoots.
Once again, Fauci has every right to invoke his constitutional rights, but the public has every right to demand answers to these questions related to the deaths of 1,238,563 Americans. That may result in a grant of immunity to compel him to answer these questions.
If it is any solace for Fauci, he will clearly be able to maintain that he is “the most famous and talked about person in the country.”
Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the New York Times best-selling author of “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.”
Notice that the pieces Turley repeats here were first published on MAGA media? Right off the bat, Turley’s spin on Dr. Fauci and the reason he took the Fifth is untrue–Rand Paul has said that it is his goal to put Dr. Fauci behind bars–that was the reason for the hearing, and so, like any sensible person following the sound legal advice of counsel, he took the Fifth. Rand Paul would not even let Dr. Fauci’s lawyer speak and had him removed from the hearing because the purpose of the hearing was revenge, intimidation and embarrassment–all demanded by Trump. In fact, everything about the lying narcissist’s “presidency” that he lied to get, is trying to re-write history–seizing ballots in a futile effort to prove he didn’t lose in 2020, trying to prove that 2020 was “rigged”, all without any evidence, not only pardoning the insurrectionists but trying to give them each $1 million of our tax dollars as “reparations” for being criminally charged and in some cases, found guilty of beating up the Capitol police, vandalism and other crimes.
Even though Biden pardoned Fauci, Trump demands retribution–someone has to be at fault for Trump’s utter incompetence in handling COVID– and the brown nose Republicans are doing Trump’s bidding. Based on Rand Paul’s vow to “get him”, anything Fauci says now will subject him to prosecution, even though he has done nothing wrong. But, that’s not the point–the point is to harass and intimidate Dr. Fauci and make him suffer, and to scare off others who might dare to contradict Trump. And, did you hear the comments of that white-trash loser Tommy Tuberville? He said that when he gets to be governor, he’s going to see to it that Dr. Fauci spends the rest of his life in court or behind bars–for what? I have yet to see anything resembling a crime.
Turley claims that comments in Fauci’s diary–which were never intended for public consumption–indicate that, early on in the pandemic, he made a “connection” between the Wuhan lab and COVID and initially discounted the “wet lab” theor–so what? To this day, there is no scientific consensus as to the origin, but as investigations continue, a natural source appears to be the most likely. At this point, what difference does it make–and where is the crime? Even then, what difference did the source make as to how the pandemic should have been handled?
Why doesn’t someone call the fat slob occupying our White House and grill him over recommending ingesting bleach, and taking Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin as COVID treatments, which studies have proven are ineffective? How about calling him to account for suggesting that the US had more reported COVID infections and deaths because we do more testing, and therefore, we should do less testing to improve our statistics? How about lying about “it’s only one person coming from China”; “you’ll be back in church for Easter”; “it will go away when the weather warms up”? Turley claims: “….but the public has every right to demand answers to these questions related to the deaths of 1,238,563 Americans.” If anyone should give such answers, it’s Trump–to even suggest that anything Dr. Fauci did or didn’t do resulted in the deaths of 1,238,563 Americans is outrageous–more MAGA slop. Turley should be ashamed.
All of this is nothing but a diversion away from the Trump war on Iran, the recent reports showing a loss of 75,000 manufacturing jobs in the US, while Biden created 625,000 jobs at this point in his presidency, the failing economy, the soaring costs for energy and groceries..