There is a disturbing case out of Israel where an Israeli man of Arab origin has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman after he allegedly told her he was Jewish and looking for a lasting relationship. Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison by a Jerusalem court.
The woman says that the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building. When she later found out that he was an Arab, she filed a criminal complaint of rape and indecent assault.
Kashur pleaded guilty to a charge of rape by deception. Judge Tzvi Segal (part of a three judge panel) acknowledged that this was not a “classical rape by force” but insisted that the woman clearly would not have had sex with an Arab. That seems true but that does not mean it is rape as opposed to a tort lawsuit. Pick up lines are notoriously embellished if not outright false. It is the danger that comes with one-night stands where the rule is caveat emptor, or “buyer beware.”
Notably, the panel insisted on jail time as a sentence when probation was possible. Segal added:
The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price – the sanctity of their bodies and souls. When the very basis of trust between human beings drops, especially when the matters at hand are so intimate, sensitive and fateful, the court is required to stand firmly at the side of the victims – actual and potential – to protect their wellbeing. Otherwise, they will be used, manipulated and misled, while paying only a tolerable and symbolic price.
That reads uncomfortably close to old miscegenation cases where judges sought to protect women from “smooth-taking” black men.
Even in cases where women have been falsely told that a lover does not carry an STD, the matter is addressed in the United States as a matter of civil not criminal battery. Does this mean that any false fact used in a one-night stand is now a criminal matter deserving of jail or it is only Arab status that gets that level of punishment? For example, if a Israeli man says he is unmarried and looking for a lasting relationship, can he be jailed? If so, the Israeli jail would be stuffed to over-capacity.
We have been following a crackdown on Israeli women dating Arab men recently.
Source: Guardian.
He clearly lied to her. It’s not wise for a Jewish girl to be with an Arab.
Sex by deceit, which is the same as rape, that’s what it was. So typical of Arabic men. How dare you criticize a girl or Israel for that? Are you schmucks?
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Yes , Tsipi, I agree;
“The law in Israel states that a person is guilty of “rape by fraud” if they “misrepresent their essence” (yeah yeah, now go define what is a person’s essence… This is just one reason I don’t like the law). The convicted man lied about being Jewish (he isn’t), he lied about being single (he isn’t) and he lied about looking for a long-term relationship (he isn’t). Probably, a court could find that he misrepresented his essence.”
It sounds so outrageous and peeps seem to be getting hung up on the sex and the politics but I believe the law was applied
because of the deceit. I don’t think it was racist and I don’t disagree with her pursuing this. If the roles were reversed I would say the same thing. I believe it is a form of fraud and it is oppressive to see it treated so lightly because it is ….well why would they?
I *believe* that the prosecution of this guy was racist. But his conviction — not so much. The judge applied the law correctly. Now, let’s discuss what the law is, and whether it should stand… And if so, whether it is applied even-handedly.
But let’s base the discussion on actual facts.
The law in Israel states that a person is guilty of “rape by fraud” if they “misrepresent their essence” (yeah yeah, now go define what is a person’s essence… This is just one reason I don’t like the law). The convicted man lied about being Jewish (he isn’t), he lied about being single (he isn’t) and he lied about looking for a long-term relationship (he isn’t). Probably, a court could find that he misrepresented his essence.
A couple of years ago, another conviction under the law was upheld by the High Court — a man lied about his employment at the Housing Authority, and promised women that he would procure them housing in order to get them into bed.
So this isn’t a law that is based on Jew/non-Jew status.
But it is my personal belief that the decision to prosecute him was based on racism.
IMO, therefore, there are two separate discussions: One is the legal discussion, whether such a law should stand. And if so, whether it can be fairly applied.
The other discussion is that of selective prosecution. And while I personally believe that a gross injustice was perpetrated here, I really don’t think a productive discussion is ever achieved by basing it on inflammatory rhetoric. Just the facts, Ma’am, and they are “juicy” enough. All the rest — is just designed to perpetuate hate. On both “sides”.
So I sincerely hope an appeal is made to the High Court, and that they kick it off the books. It could happen 🙂
Otherwise, I’ll be looking forward to the prosecution of all those guys who lie about being married to get laid… Yep, right 🙂
If an Jewish woman lied to an Arab Israeli man and told him she was a nice Arab girl looking for a permanent relationship, would the Arab Israeli be able to prosecute the fibbing Jewish Israeli? Probably, the court would say that no Arab woman would “do it” on the first date, so it wasn’t reasonable for the Arab Israeli to rely on the assertion.
I saw this law referenced somewhere else and couldn’t believe it. Think of all the women who are propositioned by married men who have removed their wedding rings and claimed to be single. The jails would be full.
Tariku:
you are so right, our women would never behave in such a manner.
And the infidels wonder why we want our women to wear burkas?
The woman first LIED under oath, accusing him of violent rape-rape! She is the one who should be in prison.
Elaine:
I actually like Monica Crowley more than the others you mention. She doesn’t come across as asexual.
Who was speculating that Ann Coulter used to be Andrew Coulter? I would find that hard to believe.
Buddha, now that you ask–I’ve heard her “androgynous” zones are quite pronounced.
😉
Wait a minute, just wait a minute . . .
You mean Ann Coulter is a woman?
One learns something new every day.