After heralding in what President Obama called a new era of “dignity” but abusing and killing a wounded Maummar Gadhafi, the head of the transitional government leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil has announced that the new government will be structured on Sharia law — ruling under Islamic values and imposed religious dictates.
Abdul-Jalil insisted that Islamic Sharia law would be the “basic source” of legislation in the country and that the government would not tolerate any law or policy that contradicted Islamic values.
The United States appears to have been successful in bringing forth another country that rejects notions of separation of church (or mosque) and state as well as a country that will by definition disenfranchise religious minorities. Our new allies in Afghanistan and Iraq have not only imposed radical Islamic groups but denied women and minorities basic rights. I am not sure we can afford any more successes in our foreign policies.
Well, at least he did not use the occasion to pledge to fight the United States . . . that takes billions of more dollars and thousands of U.S. lives to achieve.
Source: Telegraph
Its their revolution, they get to do what they want with it & we shouldn’t be surprised if people with the strongest beliefs act the most decisively and take charge. We upset the apple cart unnaturally in the Middle East, Iraq through Libya and still more to come. We will regret this even more in the near future; it will get even uglier before, if ever, it gets better
Not sure if this fits in with Sharia. No pun intended
A video released by the Global Post appears to capture an unidentified man sodomizing ousted Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi with an object before he was eventually killed.
The video was released on Friday but a closer review of the footage on Saturday appears to show a person bending over and inserting a thin piece of wood inside Gaddafi’s bottom. The video was released by the website Global Post, which obtained the footage from rebel fighters.
http://wireupdate.com/news/video-shows-muammar-gaddafi-being-sodomized-2.html
The US govt. worked hard to upset the apple cart in a way that benefits US corporate interests. We are currently making strong overtures with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. One needs to ask why that is so, just as the US govt. is doing in Libya.
I wish it were true that Libyans got to choose their own way of doing things, but that was never going to be allowed by the US govt. They will “choose” whomever the US govt. thinks is in the best interests of the US Plutopentacracy.
The Plutopentacracy demands autocrats who will make certain Libya is “business friendly”. A party which actually represented the needs and desires of their people would just not work out for the US. They need an authoritarian govt. Voila, that is who’s in charge. Regime change is working very well for the 1%!
How about Turkey which has a government which is doing the wishes of its people in imposing Sharia law under a democratic system? The ruling party is doing its best to overthrow the last vestiges of Kemalism that was guaranteed by the military. Sharia was imposed under the late colonel too, and if you look at his old flag, it was the green flag of Islam.
Bdaman,
Did the person with the object have NYPD on his hat?
Mustafa Abdul-Jalil … don’t upset your handlers …
Sharia law influences the legal code in most Muslim countries to varying degrees.
I predict that Sharia-based governments will prevail in the Middle East for a generation or so, until people get tired of living in the past. People got tired of Communism in the USSR eventually.
Sharia law has some variations on the theme, as most other religious doctrines also seem to have.
Uh Oh, somebody went to the trouble and torment of bringing down a tyrant simply to install tyranny? That isn’t good. Wow, that might even be really BAD. Whom do we tell about that? Is there a “bad government inspector general”? If so, does it speak English?
I don’t understand why this is so shocking – did we expect them to write a constitution based on English common law?
Constitution . . . England . . . common law? Disconnect, much?
Jay S.,
Excellent thought to ponder
If the USA leads by example, the example Libyans saw was Bachmann.
Michael Miles 1, October 24, 2011 at 12:59 pm
I don’t understand why this is so shocking – did we expect them to write a constitution based on English common law?
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Oro Lee 1, October 24, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Constitution . . . England . . . common law? Disconnect, much?
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That is not a disconnect.
Jay S, may be on to something.
“The United States appears to have been successful in bringing forth another country that rejects notions of separation of church (or mosque) and state”
I’m curious, professor Turley, what would you, as President, have done? Should we have let Quadaffy continue in power, killing thousands in Benghazzi? Should we go in there and nation build to make sure they have a first amendment (force Western Democracy on them with a gun, ala Bush/Cheney). And are we really the ones “bringing forth” this new country, or are the Libyans themselves doing it?
All the options were bad, but this might be the least bad–you know, allowing them to choose their own destiny…
I’m pretty sure this is a better outcome than we would have had under President McCain.
Jay S is definitely on to something. One can say that our legal system is based on Judeo/Christian morality and come close to the mark. It is their revolution and hopefully they will be allowed to craft it as they see fit. While the US and NATO had some involvement, they do not have the right nor the means to impose their will. It hasn’t worked anywhere we’ve tried.
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Assuming that Libya makes it to reasonably fair and open elections, we’ll see if a heavy-handed or moderated Sharia stands. Their neighbors in Tunisia just went to the polls (with 80% to 90% turnout!). The Islamist party is expected to get the most seats, but not an outright majority, and will thus have to rule in coalition with secular parties:
http://www.juancole.com/2011/10/surprises-of-the-tunisian-election.html
As for Turkey, yes, PM Edrogan and his AK Party are semi-islamist (but arguably more populist) – they would like to get more religiously conservative, but they know that the military is still there (the Turkish military have traditionally enforced the limits of secularism by overthrowing governments that strayed too far in to religious rule) and the urban elites won’t stand for rigid Islamism. Also, they are a bit busy overseeing very strong economic growth – the AK Party supports fairly a fairly liberal market economy – not a hallmark of rigid religious parties. In summary: you can still buy a beer in most small, rural towns – the Efes breweries aren’t going to be shut down any time too soon.
Trading an extra-terrestrial tyrant for a terrestrial one is no upgrade.
Opps make that the other way ’round. : [
Coming soon to a town by you….
They have all the right to follow their culture but it should be open and must not apply any thing which will cost them again.
hi, yes this is a right of their that what they want to do and how do they want to do it.
hello everyone . im a libyan person i have considered most of the comments above and i believe they’re reasonable enough if they seriously taken as a domestic affairs. nonetheless, it worthy cause to be kept as it is. thanks alot.
When we are talking about any one’s culture, we can’t force any body beyond the culture. I like you post and the way you have written is awesome.
May I have some eggs and toast with my SPAM?