With the Democratic leadership continuing to block any impeachment effort or any serious effort to hold officials liable for the U.S. torture program, Congress was free to hold another bizarre hearing today to calmly discussed our use of torture. Even though current Attorney General continues to evade the question, former Attorney General acknowledged and defended water boarding.
This is not the first hearing where the value of our use of torture was addressed as a routine matter of discussion, click here. Indeed, we have now gotten to the point where we openly compare our acts of torture with those of other nations, click here.
Thus, it was no surprise to see members bantering about on the use of a war crime today like it was some chicken subsidy going to mark up.
For his part, Ashcroft fulfilled his stereotype as more general and attorney. When asked if he felt that other nations could legitimately waterboard our own soldiers when captured, Ashcroft did not contest that possibility. Instead, he gave a non-answer: “Well, my subscription to these memos, and my belief that the law provides the basis for these memos persisted even in the presence of my son serving two tours of duty overseas in the Gulf area as a member of our armed forces,.” Some could easily read that response as affirming that it would be permissible to waterboard our own soldiers when captured.
With the International Red Cross informing the Administration that high officials could be tried for war crimes over our torture program, here, many of us are left with this out-of-body sensation in watching these hearings unfold. Just yesterday, Speaker Pelosi reaffirmed that (no matter how strong the evidence might be that President Bush committed crimes, including war crimes, in office) she would not allow impeachment proceedings to begin. So, instead, we just sit around and calmly discuss war crimes like some interesting factoids and conversation points.
For the full story, click here.
Course…thats just a guess.
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If she is in the medical field, I hope the AMA knows about her…. you know…that she’s out…. walking around in public and stuff.
Here. Since we’re handing out diagnosis and all, my diagnosis of Doctor Quinn, Medicine Woman.. ….purely from a lay point of view of course…is as follows.
I’m guessing post prodromal schizophrenia which is evident from the visible impaired cognative ability as well as the disorganized speech patterns (see her attempt at mathematics above) with perhaps an underlying dissociative identity disorder evident by the repeated contrasting statements, such as declaring the unprofessionalism of a supposed medical professional offering a public diagnosis of a person they just met and are arguing with on the Internet, after in the same comment, having offered said diagnosis.
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So….I’m gonna go with a recommendation of 50mg Haloperidol decanoate to start…which should help with the delusions and cognative dissasociation, and if needed, electro-shock should she become violent from the anti-psychotic.
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That oughta unbunch ole Berlin Betty’s panties.
Patty C
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:36 am
Mespo asked me before for a dx:
I’d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling – bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase.
Dunno.
It’s not professional for me to say.
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Whats ironic here is Doctor Strangelove doesn’t seem to see her the problem with these comments.
First, she declares a “dx”, which I am assuming is medical for “diagnosis”. Then, she proceeds to provide said diagnosis.
I’d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling – bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase
Yet, in the very next breath, proceeds to speak, and accurately so;
It’s not professional for me to say.
So its not “professional” of her, yet she does it anyway?
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Wouldn’t that make you “unprofessional” for having “said” then?
Perhaps you should write a book about your experiences in your illustrious medical career.
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You can call it “Bedpans and Broomsticks”.
I have to admit, this has been a first for me.
I’ve seen some ignorant, and pompous bloggers before, even manage to be ignorant and pompous myself from time to time. But I’ve never encountered a blogger before, who launches attack after attack, completely unprovoked in every instance, and then, as if to summarily declare victory, pronounces that they work in the medical field, so therefore have won some elusive victory.
I wonder what Doctor Kevorkian here would do, if someone followed her from thread to thread, and in each thread lashed out with demeaning and ignorant insults and demands, without her ever speaking to them first?
I bet she’d scream like a stuck pig.
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Which is a readily available image, to be sure.
Patty C
1, July 19, 2008 at 1:53 am
It’s not professional for me to say. He is not my patient.
Thank goodness!
Yea…uh….thank goodness.
Considering as a self annointed “medical professional” you spend your free time insulting people who said nothing to you first, then declare THEM the insane one.
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Go figure.
Patty C
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:16 am
Have you ever heard of Harvard – Medical School?
As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!
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Patty C
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Have you ever heard of Harvard – Medical School?
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Patty C
1, July 11, 2008 at 1:33 am
Patty C
I and my team work with medical professionals, saving lives, all day -can you say the same?
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Patty C
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm
One of the things you, as a newbie, wouldn’t know about me, as a ‘player’ on the blog, is that my ancestors came here on the Mayflower and fought in the Revolutionary War.
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Patty C
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm
One was the first Governor of ‘Massachusetts’ ie one of the original 13 colonies…
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….and I suppose you crap dandylions out of your ass, too?
Mespo asked me before for a dx:
I’d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling – bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase.
Dunno.
It’s not professional for me to say. He is not my patient.
Thank goodness!
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Do the guys at Harvard know you’re out?
Patty C
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:16 am
Have you ever heard of Harvard – Medical School?
As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!
Thanks for playing…!
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So in your mind, because of where you work, you have the right to follow a blogger around insulting him without provocation, then, declare your place of employment, and declare sum sort of victory?
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Just admit it.
You’re a test subject….right?
Patty C
1, July 19, 2008 at 1:30 am
I am GREAT terms with Harvard – thanks!
Terms?
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You mean like a restraining order?
I am GREAT terms with Harvard – thanks! 🙂
Oh and you never did answer the question I asked last week when you were declaring your class superiority because your ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War.
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You still haven’t said on which side.
By the way Dolly Madison, I’d take it easy on declaring you’re an employee of anywhere, Harvard Medical School included, in a public blog. Particularly when you’re using it to dress down another blogger by proclaiming your supposed superiority because you think you have a better job.
Not that I could care, but theres more and more stories on the internet of people being fired from their jobs, for proclaiming it in a public blog. Different organizations are different, so maybe Harvard doesn’t mind. I don’t know. But I wouldn’t bet on it.
Not if I liked my job.
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Just FYI.
Patty C
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:16 am
Have you ever heard of Harvard – Medical School?
As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!
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Patty C
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Have you ever heard of Harvard – Medical School?
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Patty C
1, July 11, 2008 at 1:33 am
Patty C
I and my team work with medical professionals, saving lives, all day -can you say the same?
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Patty C
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm
One of the things you, as a newbie, wouldn’t know about me, as a ‘player’ on the blog, is that my ancestors came here on the Mayflower and fought in the Revolutionary War.
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Patty C
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm
One was the first Governor of ‘Massachusetts’ ie one of the original 13 colonies…
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I’m sensing a pattern here doc…
Wholiebacon,
You are right when you say that when a government tortures an alleged terrorist, they become the terrorists. There is no good legal, moral, logical or military reason to torture.
Mespo asked me before for a dx:
I’d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling – bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase.
Dunno.
It’s not professional for me to say. But he is not my patient.
Thank goodness!
Patty C
1, July 18, 2008 at 11:45 pm
my dead ancestors who came here as settlers
and were among those at the first Thanksgiving table
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Was that before or after they were dead?
Have you ever heard of Harvard – Medical School?
As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!
Thanks for playing…! 🙂