Shocking Pictures: U.S. Military Holding Detainees in Small Crates

As President George Bush is in China lecturing his counterparts on human rights and detainee rights, pictures have emerged of the U.S. military’s use of small crates to hold detainees in Iraq. The wooden boxes are only 3 feet by 3 feet by 6 feet tall, but the Bush Administration insists that it is a perfectly humane way to hold detainees. That is no doubt something that Chinese will find instructive.

The boxes are used for up to 12 hours at a time. The average Iraqi male is 5 feet 9 inches tall.

In some ways, the exchange of information with the Chinese is only fair. After all, it was recently disclosed that we used torture manuals from the Chinese to torture our own detainees, here.

China previously defended its own abuses by citing the advances of the Bush administration in this area, click here.

It will take years for the United States to be able to speak internationally on the subject of human rights without a round of snickering — as soon by the reception of Bush’s implausible role as a defender of human rights in Beijing. President Bush has robbed the nation of the moral high ground to the point that we cannot even see over the Chinese government from our current position.

For the latest story and additional pictures, click here.

48 thoughts on “Shocking Pictures: U.S. Military Holding Detainees in Small Crates”

  1. Rafflaw,

    Russ and Dundar I can see, but Publius is a little to well spoken. Also he doesn’t seem to be supporting the Bush administration, just claiming that impeachment is pointless.

  2. Jill,
    The coffin size crate was a not so subtle message to the detainees, in my opinion. It is sad day when this country has been reduced to being a torturer and of harboring war criminals in the highest echelons of the administration.

  3. rafflaw,

    Your comment about the coffin size crates was just what I was thinking about yesterday. When the CIA rendered Khaled el-Masri, a German citizen, he was put in a coffin for days on end as part of his torture. Although the CIA later admitted the rendition was a mistake the supreme court in the US would not allow Mr. el-Masri to pursue his court case against the U.S. for the administrations unlawful action.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/03/AR2005120301476.html

  4. I can’t believe that there would be any hypocrisy in the US Government’s Foreign Policy.

    I wonder what this means to the Middle Eastern peace agreement Bush has been working so hard to obtain before the end of this year.

  5. I am beginning to think that Publius, Russ, and Dundar are one and the same person.
    Mespo,
    I would like to watch the entire administration squeezed into boxes that measure 3 feet by 3 feet by 6 feet. That is basically the shape and size of a coffin. Do you think that is just a coincidence?

  6. Publius- Yes Nancy Pelosi is the enemy as long as she does the same path and excuses the crimes. She’s the driver in the robbery.

  7. Bob,Esq:

    “How many crates would it take to box up the Bush administration?”

    ******************************

    Hey Bob long time no see. To answer your query, I guess thousands of them but I’d be willing to try to fit them all into one.

  8. It would be an interesting sight to see Mr. Bush in a box like the ones mentioned in this story. Except he would probably just call up Daddy and buy his way out.

  9. Russ,
    Don’t let the facts get in the way of your simplistic view of the last 7 years. The Republicans were in power in Congress and the White House when the decisions were made that almost “lost” the occupation. Let’s not forget that the entire war was initiated for corporate gain. Can you spell oil? If anyone here is whining, it is you. You are whining that people actually expect our government to follow the law and follow the Constitution. You whine when Democrats actually try to enforce the oversight responsibility. Try using some facts to argue your point,instead of making up numbers.
    Kathy’s question for Pelosi is a good one.
    One more thing Publius. Bush isn’t losing any sleep these days because his arrogance blinds him to reality.

  10. rcampbel: the biggest bunch of criminals in Washington are the Democrats in Congress that TRIED to lose a war for political gain.

    rcambel: you need to grow up and stop being a whiner.

  11. >The bottom line is that over 90% of Americans would not have a >problem with prisoners with violent tendencies being held in these >cells for the limited times they are.

    Impossible. The criminal, Bush, got just over 50% of the electorate which was only about 30% of the eligible voters which is about 60% of the population. That is 50% of 30% of 60% of 300 million people. That’s about 9%. No one except those lunatics who supported this evil empire in the White House would condone this activity. Ok, I’ll double it to 20% (gotta include you and your vast network of like-minded but non-voting “friends”).

    The rest of us love America and believe in what it stands for.

  12. I would like to know, REALLY like to know just what Ms. Pelosi would consider impeachable conduct?

  13. dundar,

    Do you take a poll before you make ethical choices?
    John McCain used to say it was about us, not them. He WAS right about that. This is about who we are and what we stand for.
    Another thing to consider is: 1. who gets to determine who’s violent? and 2. after mistreating a prisoner will they really be less dangerous to our soldiers? Unless you plan to lock them up forever or kill them, sometime you will have to deal with a person you abused. That doesn’t make you safe.

  14. The bottom line is that over 90% of Americans would not have a problem with prisoners with violent tendencies being held in these cells for the limited times they are.

    Let’s face it, no matter what our soldiers did to defend themselves or Iraquis concerned about these violent offenders, a few % of Americans would complain because they like to complain, not because a President Obama or Clinton would do anything different.

    These violent offenders more than likely harmed innocent civilians time & again and would continue to do so if allowed to. Again, I don’t understand what there is to gain by complaining about such a trivial thing as how our soldiers keep themselves safe while helping the Iraquis control the violent offenders but keep complaining ’cause NOBODY IS LISTENING!

  15. In his book, Fear Up Harsh, Tony Lagouranis describes the use of crates, larger than the ones in this article, which were used to break prisoners in Iraq. They were wired for sound to play loud music and they often had strobe lights. They could keep people in them in great heat or cold and isolation. It is amazing to see how degraded our treatment of prisoners was and probably still is in the black sites. Many in the military have tried very hard to treat people in a professional, decent manner. I am glad I live in a country that has people in it who will at least try to rectify past mistakes.

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