Saudi Grand Mufti Supports Marriage of Girls As Young As Ten

grand muftiAt a time of rising alarm over the marriage of girls as young as eight years old, Saudi Arabia’s Grand Mufti Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh has declared that such marriages are proper and moral under Sharia law. Indeed, he views such criticism as unfair to these girls despite the fact that such arrangements are viewed as per se child abuse and statutory rape in most other countries.

The Grand Mufti insists “[i]f it is said that a woman below 15 cannot be married, that is wrong. If a girl exceeds 10 or 12 then she is eligible for marriage, and whoever thinks she is too young, then he or she is wrong and has done her an injustice.”

Nevertheless, this week a court in Taif allowed an eleven-year-old to divorce her 75-year-old husband.

She is fortunate in comparison to the eight-year-old girl near Riyadh, who was denied a divorce to a 58-year-old man — at least until she reaches the age of majority.

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49 thoughts on “Saudi Grand Mufti Supports Marriage of Girls As Young As Ten

  1. From what I gather, Islamic law permits marriage at any age provided that the parties are physically fit to engage in sexual intercourse (i.e. they must have at least reached puberty).

    It is well known that Muhammad himself consumated his marriage to his third wife Aisha when she was only 9 years old and he was in his 50s (!).

  2. Indeed, Islamic law permits marriage between consenting parties. The age of consent in Islamic law is not determined by the number of birthdays- a person is allowed to get married when they reach puberty.

    Islamic law views marriage as a contract between consenting parties to establish the legitimacy of children. When the only reason people get married is to have children, the concepts of “love” and “sexual exclusivity” becomes peripheral. That is why men can have four wives and women can have one husband at one time.

    As barbaric and uncivilized it may seem to the western observer, marriages at the age of puberty are a norm in many Islamic cultures. As modernization occurs and men and women get educated and enter lucrative careers the focus of marriage shifts from propagation of children to a life spent together in love. This shift is seen in many Muslim countries. However, the rule established by Sharia remains valid. A person is allowed to get married at attaining puberty but not necessarily encouraged to do so.

    As far as Muhammad’s marriage is concerned, it is widely reported and certainly accepted by Muslims too, that Aisha was 9 years old when she married Muhammad. The notion is historically inaccurate. Allama Parwez researched the subject and proved that Aisha was at least 19 when she married Muhammad. The age difference between the two was till significant but she was not a 9 year old child.

  3. With all due respects to anyone’s religous beliefs, forcing a 10 year old girl to be married is blatant child abuse and should be handled by the authorities as such. This is what happens when religous law becomes mixed with or dominant to civil law. It is interesting that the one girl could not get divorced until she reached the age of majority, but she could get married before the age of majority. Is it just me or is that backwards? Junnaid, I think that men are allowed to be married to more than one woman because it is the men who are making up the rules. This is the same situation in the Catholic church. Why is it that a 10 year old girl can get married, but we never see any stories about 10 year old boys being forced to get married or being denied a divorce? Because these particular religious beliefs were designed by men to prevent women from having an equal say in the matter. Another example of this is the Catholic Church where women cannot be priests and therefore cannot ascend to the highest positions in the Church. It is not Christian and it is not equitable.

  4. Junnaid:

    Thank you for the explanation that may well be a correct statement of the rationale involved but convinces few here of its morality or propriety. In so far as the “proof” that Muhammad married a nine year old (or 19 year old, or whatever), is this the same “proof” that puts him on a white winged horse of fire bound for the heavens?

  5. It’s repression and abuse. Period. “Well it’s tradition!” So what. Primogeniture was once a tradition too. Just because you used to do it doesn’t make it right. Saudi Arabia is an evil place run by evil people – the same people who attacked us on 9/11 using Afghanistan as a base of operations. Advocating child sex on top of all their other retrograde repressive/oppressive behaviors is quite simply disgusting and inhuman. The Qua’ran says it’s acceptable for men to lay with animals (not women however) but I don’t see them lining up to marry and hump sheep. It’s also further evidence that they are NOT our ally in action or in spirit.

    These are collectively the most evil people on the planet if you want to judge a society by how it’s government operates. Compared to our morons or the Israeli war mongers, there is no real comparison. And how come the MSM never mentions that Wahhabism, the official version of Islam SA follows, is the equivalent of Fundamentalist Pentacostals running the show. They base NOTHING in reality. But they are good at inciting hatred between the Sunni, the Shia, the Jews and anyone else they can sink their fascist theocratic fangs into.

    There is nothing you can say that will change my mind.

    I live for the day when Saudi Arabia pays harshly for what they have done as much as I live for seeing the Neocons and their Israeli Likhud asshole buddies in prison. And by pay, I mean physical removal of all the “royal” family and their vile minions. Quite simply, go fornicate yourself Saudi Arabia. If you were turned into a sheet of glass, I’d cry for your citizens, but I’d laugh at the justice done to your “ruling class”.

  6. I just do not see how a 10 yr old girl is mentally, physically, or spiritually ready to be married. Nor do I see how a grown man can be sexually attracted to one either. I don’t believe for one minute that these men do not have sex with these girls as soon as they’re wed. Those men are sick in the head and they are nothing more than child molestors

    Buddha “The Qua’ran says it’s acceptable for men to lay with animals (not women however) but I don’t see them lining up to marry and hump sheep. It’s also further evidence that they are NOT our ally in action or in spirit. ”

    That’s just sick. That is something I did not know. I am with you on this!!

  7. That’s what 20 hours of comparative religion gets you. You learn a lot of things you sometimes wish you hadn’t.

  8. Consent has no meaning for a 10 year old girl. There is no reason that any man needs to have sex with, or keep a young girl as a wife. Any man that does so is looking for someone they can control with ease. Holy Books and tradition are not a substitute for ethics. This behavior is unethical and should not be lawful. It allows harm to a young person. Adults should not want to harm a young person, nor should it be legal for them to do so.

  9. Ingrained, irrational, and illogical religious beliefs, such as espoused by Muslim and Christian faiths, represent the main reason we will never be able to establish western-style democracies in Muslim countries.

    Accepting that all religions are faith-based—and therefore not founded on factual evidence—no person of one faith has logical standing to criticize a person of another faith. Faith is whatever someone wants to “believe” whether it is raping and controlling prepubescent children in your concubine or killing innocent people because of the manly “god” voices of your heavenly “father” echoing in your head that compel you to follow the good-fight crusade of death and destruction.

    Humans simply cannot use logic to rationalize illogical premises such as beliefs in religion that sanction abhorrent behavior just because the “god” of any one of the myriad faiths whispers “his” approval of ‘your actions’ while simultaneously hollering “his” disapproval at those whose faith ‘you’ do not like.

    Mr. Bush’s born-again Christian faith is just as irrational and deadly as is Bin Laden’s Muslim faith because they are contemporaneously tugging at the same supernatural deity pleading for “him” to continue to “god bless” the death and destruction they both have wrought on innocent people worldwide.

    “Softly and tenderly Jesus is calling, calling for you and for me”

  10. Bob,

    Indeed. George Carlin said it best (as he often did). The 11th Commandment should be “Keep thy religion to thyself.”

  11. JUNNAID,





  12. pretty girl:






    The Hadith may be many things, but a history book is not one of them.

  13. Who wrote Islamic law? Mohammed himself or Qaazis later to control the society. Men and Women should be treated equal and a women should have power to make her own decision. It is wrong to mistreat women folks in Islamic countries in the name of Islam, things will change with time when Women can stand shoulder to shoulder with a man. Who are these illetrate mullahs to control the society? Don’t listen to them, make our own wise decision.

  14. This is nothing more than sexual slavery. All courts of law understand a child’s brain isn’t fully formed enough to enter into legal contracts. And extremists fight hard to keep females ignorant. These Pedophiles should be ashamed of themselves, especially to do this shameful thing in the name of God. Muslims also believe in Jesus as a prophet. If so then why not understand his words “If anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea”, Mathew 18:6. Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,Isaiah 5:20

  15. There is a movement to establish Sharia Law in the U.S. It is led by those taking Saudi money, of course. I suspect that NY will be the first.

  16. If we’re lucky, they’ll eliminate the racist bigoted divisionist trolls too.

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” U.S. Constitution, 1st Amendment.

    So, once again TraitorB, you’re simply expressing the bigoted and racist sentiments of your boss and attempting to be a shit disturber. The ONLY way to “bring Sharia” to New York or any place else in America is by Constitutional Amendment. Do you really think Congress would amend the Constitution to allow Sharia law? They’re venal, not suicidally stupid. But you run that up the flag pole and see who salutes by all means, be my guest.

    Because the chance of that happening is about the same chance as your boy PropagAndy has at being taken seriously ever again.

    Which is zero.

  17. These poster like Traitor B are desperately trying to stir the anti-muslim, anti-black and anti-mexican sentiment in this country. It is the republican fall election strategy. They want to scare these groups into staying home and turn out the angry white racists.

  18. The ONLY way to “bring Sharia” to New York or any place else in America is by Constitutional Amendment. Do you really think Congress would amend the Constitution to allow Sharia law?

    If the majority in Congress ever becomes Muslim I don’t see why it couldn’t happen. We already have seen where a large population of the Muslim community help put a Muslim in Congress where he took his oath on the Koran.

    Change takes time, never say never.

    Let us not forget AIG

    AIG, Sharia and Uncle Sam

    A federal judge in Michigan has declined to dismiss an ex-Marine’s lawsuit that insurance giant AIG is using tax dollars to promote Islamic Sharia law and charities that may be funneling money to terrorist organizations.

    Just when you thought the government’s massive bailout of AIG couldn’t get more complicated or controversial.

    The facts of the case “raise a question of whether the government’s involvement with AIG has created the effect of promoting religion and sufficiently raise Plaintiff’s claim beyond the speculative level,” U.S. Dist. Judge Lawrence P. Zatkoff ruled.

    The judge’s ruling, a surprise to many legal scholars who think the suit will never go to trial, adds a troubling religious dimension to an already troubling economic crisis. It also shines a spotlight on Sharia-compliant financing, a growing part of the $1 trillion Islamic banking industry.

  19. That changes nothing, badtroll.

    AIG is not the government. They are a corporation. And just like a kosher deli can sell a religiously defined product or a Christian publisher can sell books that religiously defined products, AIG is free to sell financial religiously defined products. I don’t see you getting upset that ElderAdo Financial offering Christian based financial services (

    But that’s not in line with your bigoted agenda, is it?

    None of these businesses are the equivalent of NYC adopting Sharia courts to run parallel to the civil and/or criminal courts – which would be an example of “Sharia coming to America” – but short of that kind of direct (and unconstitutional) governmental action, Sharia isn’t going to be incorporated into our legal system absent Constitutional amendment.

    Again, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” U.S. Constitution, 1st Amendment.

    Congress = venal not suicidally stupid.

    If they (meaning both parties) tried to do something like that? The Fundie base the GOP has been kissing ass with for the last 30 years would start burning them in the streets like heretics of yesteryear. Because they are just as insane as the Islamic Fundamentalists.

  20. Buddha,

    There is some talk of dividing America. Rick Perry has suggested that possibility for Texas some time in the future.

    For example, do you believe the Mexican War was legitimate? The Mexicans do not. Then Representative Abraham Lincoln spoke out against it. Thus, it is not impossible that Hispanics could convince Liberals to return the SW to Mexico. I have seen some footage of a meeting for this purpose (in CA, as I recall.) The speaker was a teacher, but he was speaking outside of school, so he could not be fired.

    If the Muslims become the majority in the Northeast, they might want to split off and form a Muslim theocracy. They could make a deal with the fundamentalist in the South to secede.

  21. What I believe is that you’re simply full of crap, Propagandist.

    Fractionation may happen, but not for the reasons you suggest.

  22. You avoided the question of the legitimacy of our annexation of the SW. Do you think it was legitimate or do you agree with Abraham Lincoln?

  23. I don’t have to respond to your questions any more than you have to tell the truth, TraitorB. Take your false dilemmas and spin on them.

    Oh, wait. That’s what you are doing already.

    Carry on.

  24. “The bluntly-named group ‘Stop Islamization in America’ has posted signs on the sides of metro buses across the country this summer, reading: ‘Fatwa on your head?’ and ‘Leaving Islam?’ Pamela Geller, who heads the organization, says she just wants to help out Muslims endangered by their own religion.

    Funny: I don’t believe I’ve seen any signs yet reading: “Priest molesting you in the confession booth? Leaving Catholicism?”

    There is a new and disturbing trend towards Muslim bashing in the United States. If it continues apace it is likely to help stir up a real national ‘clash of civilizations.’ Too bad. The American Muslims I know are some of the most open-minded and tolerant practitioners of the Islamic faith.

    Witness Newt Gingrich’s bizarre stance on the planned Muslim community center two blocks from the World Trade Center with a mosque on one floor: ‘There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia,’ he contends.

    Is he saying we should be just as intolerant as some of the world’s most authoritarian governments? It certainly sounds like it.

    Folks jumping on the anti-Muslim bandwagon this summer might like to recall that America’s founders stressed religious tolerance for a reason: Minority faiths deserve the same protection as all faiths, particularly because they are likely to be the first ones persecuted by the majority. Maybe that is why Thomas Jefferson bothered to read his own Koran. The father of the nation, George Washington, harbored no anxiety towards other religions on American soil. In one instance, he wrote this to his agent about hiring workmen at Mount Vernon: ‘If they be good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa, or Europe; they may be Mohammedans, Jews, or Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists.’

    Gingrich and his brethren are now trying to stir up new fears about Islam in America. His clique has little credibility, however.”

    Read the rest at Newt Gingrich’s New Clash of Civilizations

  25. Two exceptional doctors at the cleve clinic, both from Pakistan and muslim, saved the life of my 1 year old grandchild … and are working, presently, to keep the child whole and healthy.

    That anyone would attempt, for mere political purposes, to create any discomfort for these gentle men or for their families, is a thing I will fight against with every ounce of strength I possess.

    Make no mistake … this sentiment runs very deep within me.

  26. Blouise doctors typically have no boundaries and I am pleased that your grandchild is receiving the best of care from these two gentleman.

  27. How’s that fake sympathy tactic working out for you, badtroll? (rhetorical, we all saw how well it worked when you tried it on AY yesterday)

  28. Bdaman,

    And yet it is upon these two men and their families that the bigotry of the right will fall. And I will fight such behavior openly and forcefully until the day I die.

  29. I see it’s working out just about as well as all your other tactical missteps. You are truly a bad troll, badtroll.

    And I’m not using “bad” in the ironic inverse manner.

  30. Bdaman,

    Your depreciatory references to computer repairmen (a very necessary and worthwhile segment of our population), lawyers (well … they do tell good jokes on themselves), and astrologers (Nancy Reagan would beg to differ with you) is telling.

    Fear of poly green men can be conquered by simply accepting their existence and moving on … you do not have to disparage so many within our society to lay waste your fears

    By the way, a good grasp of astrology is necessary in developing an in-depth understanding of the Enlightenment. In order to study that field, one must have a solid grasp of trig and a free flowing sense of intuition … or … a well written computer program.

  31. Awwww. Did that poor ‘lil badtroll get his feelings hurt because he’s once again been made the fool? That’d be real authentic fool too, none of that imitation stuff.

    Don’t hate me because I’m a polymath.

    Then again you don’t need a rational reason to hate, do you, bdabigot?

    You just go with what your puppeteers tell you to hate.

  32. What we are seeing with much of passes for legitimate discussion lately is merely an effort once again to inject wholly irrational fear into the voting public leading up to the elections this fall. It is even evident on this blog. Consider the following:

    1. Tootie has been raging against immigration, but with specific reference to Muslims (who wish to destroy our country and our laws) and Hispanics (who are a threat to our “distinct” culture and way of life). These arguments were advanced historically against the immigration of many groups, including Italians, the Irish and Jews. Those favoring Tootie’s position would probably respond with, “Yes, and we were right about those groups too.”

    2. TraderB raises the threat of pressure to make sharia law the law of the land. As has been mentioned, that would require ratification of an amendment to the Constitution. It would also be necessary for what is a distinct minority of members of the Muslim faith to become a majority of the entire population in this country. That will never happen for many reasons.

    3. TraderB has also resurrected the idea of secession, as well as annexation of part of the U.S. by Mexico. Once again, these are not issues over which I will ever lose sleep. And the legitimacy of the Mexican War is no more an issue for debate than is the legitimacy (as opposed to morality) of the conquest of Native Americans. Those are simply facts without future significance.

  33. Blouise it’s all good. He needs me as a chew toy.

    Arf, arf, arf, arf, arf, AWWWW isn’t the little chihuahua cute honey.

  34. When women’s rights activist Wajiha Al-Huwaidar flew out of Saudi Arabia last week for a holiday in Italy with her family, she was hoping for a brief respite from what she describes as the ‘gender apartheid kingdom.’

    She wasn’t so lucky.

    As she left, her husband received an automated SMS text message from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs informing him that his wife, legally considered his ‘dependant’ under Saudi Arabia’s strict gendered guardianship system, had left the country.

    Al-Huwaidar’s husband received the same text, she learned last week, when she had left Saudi Arabia on another recent trip to Germany.

    “It is sad how Saudis use technology in a way not intended to be used for,” she told The Media Line. “In Saudi Arabia, technology brings more restrictions and misery! They use it to have more control over people’s lives, especially women.”

  35. The only thing I use you for, badtroll, is to serve as a bad example. I don’t need you for anything. Read that again and let it soak in, ‘lil Dancing Monkey.

    In case you didn’t notice, Tootie is always present as a different kind of bad example and TraderB is bucking for your position as Neocon shill in residence. Feel free to get lost. Really.

    You’re imminently replaceable.

  36. Bdaman
    1, August 1, 2010 at 12:51 pm
    Only thing fake is you repair man/lawyer/astrologist and what ever other hats you think fit you.


    6 centuries ago his name would have been Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci

    3 centuries ago, Benjamin Franklin

    today he is a green Renaissance man

  37. Thank you, Blouise.

    But da Vinci? Wow. I’m not sure what to say to that one. Other than I’m blushing, of course. And as ever . . .

    One lives to be of service.

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