Christians Can’t Jump: Coach Grimes Fired for Beating Girl’s Basketball Team 100 To 0

thumb_basketball_large_basketball_beveled_seamNow, this could make for an wrongful termination lawsuit. Micah Grimes, the coach of Covenant School of Dallas, was reportedly fired after refusing to apologize for a 100 – 0 victory of his girls’ basketball team over Dallas Academy. He insists that it is ridiculous to apologize “for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.” He was fired shortly thereafter.

Covenant, a Christian school, was mortified by the success of its girls. Kyle Queal, head of school, and board chair Todd Doshier signed a statement that “It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened. This clearly does not reflect a Christlike and honorable approach to competition.”

Dallas Academy only has 20 girls in its high school and is winless over the last four seasons. The school includes students with “learning differences,” such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

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70 thoughts on “Christians Can’t Jump: Coach Grimes Fired for Beating Girl’s Basketball Team 100 To 0

  1. My advice to “coach” Micah Grimes is to pack your whistle and apply for a job in the NBA. One has to wonder about the personality profile of someone who enjoys seeing children completely frustrated and humiliated–especially kids with special needs. Not only should he be fired as unsuitable, he should be professionally evaluated.

    Lest you think that the Covenant team just couldn’t help themselves, here’s the observation of one parent from the article:

    “A parent who attended the game said Covenant continued to make 3-pointers — even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.”

    Class acts.

  2. Well he could have said

    “Sorry you lost!!!”

    I think it’s a great little story. Some school will scoop him up quickly for their own team

  3. Sally:

    “Well he could have said

    “Sorry you lost!!!”


    I am guessing that he said something similar:

    “Thanks for the game, losers!”

  4. Haha…

    Well I think that girls basket ball team did amazing and they used to have a great coach….

    That was their last winning game of the season

  5. I’m not sure that you’ve gotten the gist of this situation. At half time, when Covenant was ahead by more than 50 points to zero, the coach of Dallas Academy suggested that he might want to put in his substitutes, who were still far superior to the DA team. Instead, Grimes chose to keep his starters in the game and run up the score, thus not merely winning, but humiliating the DA team.

    Dallas Academy is a learning disabled school, which is hardly described as merely “short attention spans or dyslexia.” That trivializes learning disabilities and, frankly, is offensive. High functioning learning disabled students run the gamut from dyslexia to Aspergers to Fragile X. It’s seriously unbecoming to trivialize learning disabilities.

  6. Sally,

    I’m not sure how any of that invalidates the coach’s display of poor sportsmanship and total lack of proportion RE: competition and the values of mercy and compassion. “Win at any cost”? That strategy sound familiar? This play came from Cheney’s notebook. No. There are ready too many people in positions of responsibility with this retrograde mindset. As evidenced by his actions, I’d bet a dollar this guy votes Neocon straight across the line and probably thinks Bush the Criminal walks on water. Do you really think he’s a proper person to teach children, let alone interact with special needs children (regardless of degree of disability)?

    I don’t.

  7. Mr. Turley:

    I’m no lawyer, but a wrongful termination lawsuit was the first thing I thought of as well:

    It was nine days between when the game ended and when the story appeared, followed hours later by the school’s apology. A Dallas Morning News reporter told me he read his paper’s own boxscores to learn of the game, and followed it up the next week. Covenant had won games by more than 50 points a few times before the Dallas Academy game. If you read Micah Grimes’ response, which is linked from my site, you’ll see that he knew he was toast no matter what. Clearly, the school fired him not for blowing out a team, but for all the bad publicity it received.

    You wonder if organizations should have a “break in case of Internet sensation” alarm so they know how to deal with sudden bursts of publicity without panicking.

    Bob Cook

  8. “You wonder if organizations should have a “break in case of Internet sensation” alarm so they know how to deal with sudden bursts of publicity without panicking.”

    Now that’s a good idea, Bob. It should be mandatory business equipment.

  9. The coach in question actually said, and I’m citing the quote in the article: “My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent” Which, in order to be a true statement, must mean that he genuinely felt that up until the very end there was a chance that they could have staged a comeback.

  10. personally I dont think it should be an issue, when I was young I played hockey against a team that was far superior to ours and we lost about 10-2, 8-3 something like that. I knew one of the other players as he was a neighbor and he told me after the game that the his coach had told them to ease up so the score wouldnt be 20-0 or 30-0. When I heard that I was humiliated. If you get your but whipped fair and square and you played hard that is honobable, nothing honorable in haven the other team wipe your nose for you.

  11. Fudd:

    The winning coach should never have told his kids that. He just should have dialed it back. I had a championship FB team one year and had to play the worst team in the league that had only been in existence for one year. By halftime the score (with reserves starting the game) was 28-0 and heading for 56-0. We substituted guards for tailbacks, kickers for wideouts, and played all reserves the rest of the way, and generally had a good time. The other team had no idea who our starters or position players were and they players never caught on. I even had my son, who was the center, intentionally fumble a snap on the goal line to avoid a TD. The final score ended up 35-14 and was the second closest game the other team played all year. The opposing coach, who caught on about the third quarter, thanked me for allowing the kids to have some fun without humiliating them. My team probably knew what was up, but never said a word (they were disciplined) and then went on to win it all. I see no negative in this situation.

  12. MASkeptic:

    “The coach in question actually said, and I’m citing the quote in the article: “My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent” Which, in order to be a true statement, must mean that he genuinely felt that up until the very end there was a chance that they could have staged a comeback.”


    Or possibly his concept of reality is slightly skewed.

  13. Sally:

    Learning differences means the children so affected have a difficult time processing information. In the context of a physical activity it MAY mean “trouble with team sports. You get the rules mixed up, you make mistakes, and you are often picked last for teams. When you were younger, you had trouble learning to ride a bike. You knock things over or bump into things. You feel clumsy.” (

    Hearing this makes the coaches conduct even more disturbing. What kind of guy wants a record like this. It should be a bronze albatross around his neck.

  14. Having dyslexia, ADHD, ADD or any other learning disability does not make a person physically disabled to perform a sport.
    You cannot shelter these children from the disapointments in life. It’s a fact of life, it’s not always fair.
    Sugar coating things only makes things worse

  15. Mespo:

    you make a good point, but should the loosing team be allowed to play in that league if they were so bad. Maybe an easier league would be better suited to their abilities.

    I think the loosing school should shoulder some of the burden for insisting that this team play in a league they are not prepared for.
    (go ahead and take your shot)

  16. I’m not quite sure what to make of this post. On the one hand, I agree that children should not be spared from exposure to life’s disappointments. On the other, I have a hard time understanding why the game in question would even have been scheduled. When I was in high school, the administration scheduled a game with a smaller school in an adjoining state. We won 82-0. It was embarrassing for everyone. Before the first half had even ended, our coach was playing the last string, with the center at quarterback. The opposing coach approached our team after the game and thanked our coach for not running up the score! We scheduled no more games with the school.

    The coach who was fired may or may not have run up the score, but the fact that the opposing team did not score a single field goal suggests that something was amiss. That sort of humiliation does not teach any worthwhile lessons to either victor or vanquished.

    On a lighter note, the story reminds me of the old Monty Python soccer skit, in which the Long John Silvers play a team of gynecologists in white lab coats. The Long John Silvers, all of whom have peg legs, are absolutely immobile on the field, permitting the gynecologists to score at will. It remains one of the funniest, and most sophomoric, things I’ve ever seen.

  17. “You cannot shelter these children from the disapointments in life.”


    Here’s my take on this. There are unavoidable and avoidable disappointments in life. Every person, no matter what, will experience real tragedy in their life. The best “training” for real, unavoidable tragedy is loving kindness. I know people don’t need to have experienced loving kindness to face tragedy well, but it is the best basis for confronting hardship. A child/adult who knows they are loved has a reservoir of strength that enables them to hold up under great stress.

    To me, things like sports and homecoming crowns (as mentioned in a previous post) etc. are times where children can be protected, both physically and emotionally. Some sports probably shouldn’t be played at all at so young an age (football-head injuries). Making the loss of a game have less sting, well why not? These events have no instrinsic meaning in life. They are made up competitions in a society that values competition over connection. We think competitiveness is vital because that’s been preached to us from every corner. Still, there’s real evidence showing it’s not really a good way to live.

    There’s plenty of times when children will face unavoidable heartache. The made up stuff is dispensible and should be dealt with as such.

  18. wah wah wah, just like a liberal. afraid of a little competition and needs momma or dada’s love. what a crock.

    You overcome adversity by getting through it and prevailing not hoping someone is going to hold your hand. You Buddha and Mespo are kindred souls.

  19. Bron98,

    I have not personally attacked you and you should not personally attack me. If you have a strong argument, you will not need them. If you have nothing of value to say, you will use them.

  20. Jill…

    I see your point. I think it would work well for middle schoolers and younger.
    But not in high school. By then, one is getting closer to being in college and facing yet even more challenges. Tougher ones at that.

    We all have learning differences. Some people’s learning differences just need a little more concentration than others. If you treat the person like they’re different and expect less out of them, then that’s exactly what you’ll get from them.

  21. Sally,

    I didn’t mean to say we should expect less of anyone. I agree that low expectations aren’t good for anyone. But expectations may take many forms. Who’s to say that having the expectation of kindness in this situation is not valid? Having a competitive blowout is only one of many possible expectations. Reaching out a hand in friendship is a very good expectation of a child. Playing hard to have fun is another.

    When I go to a presentation by a person who is an expert in their field, I’m glad they don’t talk to me like I’m in it and know all the lingo. Every person is going to have areas they no nothing or little about. A person who loves what they do tries hard to make that talent or knowledge accessilbe to others–because they want others to share the excitment they feel about what they are doing (ie–this blog!). I don’t see this game differently than that. The kids who were better athletes could share the joy of the game with kids who weren’t that good by changing their playing style. That’s a skill too.

  22. The win reflects a vigorous pursuit of mediocrity. It is analogous to a trained runner winning a footrace against a one-legged kid or a trained boxer boxing unconscious an individual who has boxed as exercise but rarely if ever in the ring.

    There is no dignity here; only the pursuit of mediocrity by a coach who is, in all likelihood, incredibly mediocre himself. Genuine winning is the pursuit of victory against the best possible opponent. When faced by those who don’t measure up, there is little gained in stomping them. Your team is not advanced in their ability because the losing team has no capacity to challenge them. The mental capacity to win is diminished sue to the atrophy of that mindset against an ill-advanced team. The dignity of the game is placed in peril due to absence f actual competition.

    The coach is simply a loser all the way around. Every red-blooded man who has felt the heat of real competition (unlike several voices above for the coach who have probably never graduated to athletics without a PS2) would certainly see this coach as weak at best. He has no dignity. He has no integrity. He has won nothing.

  23. jeffmooney,

    That is an interesting point of view.


    After I finished above, I thought of golf where players are routinely handicapped and nobody thinks less of them for it. I thank god/dess JT doesn’t go the full monty on Constitutional law. You and I would be in a world of hurt if he did!!! Basically, he’s handicapping us on this blog!

  24. This basketball game must have been a very painful experience for the losing players. In my opinion, there is no excuse for running up the score to this extreme. The coach deserved to be disciplined for his stupid actions. I have been on both ends of lopsided scores and it is no fun to win or lose these kind of games. I think it was Buddha who sarcastically mentioned that this was a poor example of Christian values. I agree that this type of humiliation is uncalled for at any level of play and especially when the winning team is a so-called Christian school. WWJD?

  25. Quite obviously, I’m in the jeffmooney-rafflaw camp. To me the issue is decided by what purpose you ascribe to scholastic athletics. If you want to force kids to face life’s hard knocks at a young age, sure you can beat them over the head with their own inadequacies, and subject them to every humiliation a superior team can inflict on a weaker one. That may teach them something, but it insures retaliation, and an attitude that getting what you want with no regard for how you get it is the prescribed norm. If on the other hand we are teaching good sportsmanship, fair play, and respect for your opponent, this story is a paradigm of what not to do.

    Five days before Christmas in 2002, Northwest High Coach Dave Franz wanted to do something for one of his players 17 year old Jake Porter. Porter was born with chromosomal fragile X syndrome which causes retardation. Franz called Waverly High Coach Derek Dewitt and asked for a favor in a predictable mismatch. With Waverly leading 42-0, Franz called Porter’s number and gave him the football. The plan was for Porter to take a knee and savor the first and only play of his high school career. Coach Dewitt would have none of it. Meeting with his players just before the play he told them something in secret. As the Waverly team opened a path to the endzone, tears were streaming down the faces of all concerned not the least of which were Coaches Dave Franz and Derek Dewitt.

    I’ll take more Coaches like Dave Franzand Derek Dewitt and a lot less of the Gordon Gekko-like Micah Grimes’.

  26. rafflaw:

    Me too! To this day, Jake Porter thinks he scored the winning touchdown. As one writer already said, “he surely did.”

  27. At the High School level of play there is still a developmental element. In this case it was sportsmanship, and it went untaught. All kinds of adjustments could have been made by Coach Grimes. His players should have been required to make 3 or 4 even 5 touches on offense before putting up a shot.

    Northwest High vs Waverly wow, those players and coaches really know how to live big!

  28. in view of JT’s posting today about win-at-all (and every) cost high school coach Jason Stinson, maybe we can reflect on the value of extreme methods of teaching toughness and fortitude in face of life’s hard knocks. We should probably strive to insure that we keep the students alive after their “amazing” lessons in life.

  29. mespo,

    I recall the Jake Porter story too. All I can say is thanks for using this fine example to remind us all what good sportsmanship is really about. We need more Dave Franz’s and Derek Dewitt’s. We have enough Jason Stinson’s. Way too many, in fact. Don’t believe that? Just look at the general behavior of professional athletes. Hell, look at the Dallas Cowboys. And lest we forget, Our Father Of Win At All Costs, “Iron” Dick Cheney. You may be able to beat us, but you can’t lick our Dick for not knowing where the boundaries of decency and humanity lay.

  30. All these comments are interesting but I suggest you all look at the account of the coach and the players of the winning team. It is also important to look at the actual play by play scores. There were only a total of about 4 three pointers made in the entire game. He continuously made subs to make the game fair and after leading by 29points in the first quarter, they stopped the full court press to give the other team a chance to score(obviously they could not).

    Covenant is also a small school of about 30 girls and 8 players and in the past they have been blown out by 86-6 or something. So please, do not just read the accounts of a reporter that was not at the game.

    Here is the link of the accounts by the players and coach

  31. Ladi:

    You may want to delve into the minutiae to find some rationalization for this appalling behavior but for most of us the final score speaks for itself. That coupled with the coach’s unrepentant attitude tells most people imbued with conscience and regard for young people’s education all we need to know.

    With respect to your wilting defense that they only made 4 three pointers, a more telling stat is how many they tried while leading by those horrendous numbers. One parent in attendance felt it was too far too many, and she was there. I support the decision of the School to terminate this teacher,and hope it serves to remind other coaches that few care about the score, but most everyone cares about the players.

    Here’s a rather scary quote from one of the brain-washed youth playing for Coach Grimes. I leave it to the readers to determine if her unrepentant attitude is what we truly want from our high school age kids:

    ” I have ADD and ADHD. There is nothing that separates me from anyone on the Dallas Academy girls team, so there is nothing that should separate the value of our sides. What we did that night is what we are on this team for: TO PLAY BASKETBALL AND WIN. As for the media calling our actions “unchristian”, that is very sad. For this team, and our coach are a living testimony. I am not sorry for how we played that night because I know that no harm was intended and I also know no harm occurred. I would hope America was more willing to read the lies in between the lines. The coach is as important to the team as we are—we are with him 100%.” [emphasis added]

  32. Hey, folks, greetings. I’m troubled by what appears to be a too quick persecution of Coach Grimes. Just what should he have done? I see a lot of name-calling, but no concrete suggestions. If, in fact, the two ADs for these schools were in attendance, wouldn’t any possible outside-the-rules game adjustment have come from them? If playing the game was inherently unfair, why blame the coach? But if it was a fair game at tip-off time, it’s a fair game at the buzzer. I’ve read his response web-site, am I not to take it at face value? He’s got eight players, he began rotating in his subs three minutes in. What the heck else is he supposed to do? His players seem sincere about their enthusiasm for the team and his coaching – why would one question or ridicule this? How can these feelings accurately be described as brain-washing? Aren’t these feelings normal on a close team with a well-liked and respected coach? The school apologized and mentioned forfeit without discussing with the players and coach, first? Then he got fired? Looks to me like Coach Grimes got a taste of Texas justice – not a pretty sight.

  33. @mespo727272 – You’re calling the coach’s and player’s comments “minutiae” and you’re declaring that the final score of the game is the whole story? Meaning, you see a crime scene, you decide who’s guilty, and any testimony is superfluous? Hang ’em high!

  34. When I first saw this story, the first thing that struck me is how much it could have been improved with a little extra digging on the part of the reporter. There are more unanswered questions than facts here. I don’t think it’s the job of a coach to advise students to play to the lowest of their abilities, and if there had been some sort of tacit agreement in place to treat the kids with disabilities more kindly, then I would’ve appreciated the original journalist finding that out for us. Also, if the school system requires that disabled children play with students that have no apparent disabilities, why wasn’t that reported? This is a story without enough meta.

  35. klf:

    In my world, definitions matter. I clearly referenced the stat that only 4 three pointers were made, not the comments of the team or the coach. “Minutae” refers to “precise details; small or trifling matters,” — much like your comments. But since we’re on the subject, I place no credibility in an unattributed website maintained to defend an unrepentant coach and wallpapered with the the macho comments of Bible-thumping (but apparently not readers thereof) adolescents who have been caught behaving just this side of the “The Lord of the Flies.” (see quoted comment above from that “Christian” site.)In fact, if his team is as obsequious, callous, and suffers from the same win at all costs warping made evident by the comments, I suggest disbanding the team and enrolling in some compassion counseling.

    In addition, I place no value in the comments of a coach whose actions belie his own words, and who was fired because of the firestorm that he personally caused. 100 to 0. Please don’t tell me that a coach playing 8-10 minute quarters couldn’t have avoided this mess, if he wanted to avoid it. This was hubris, and the desire to set some sort of record for public consumption, and for bragging rights in his small world. It ended up being his professional epitaph.

  36. Mespo,
    If the score is 100-0, the coach did not do enough to make the experience a more humane one for the losing team. It was big of him to remove the press after going up 29-0 in the first quarter. He could have told his kids to not shoot and to play a loose defense. that isn’t giving the game away it is about sportsmanship. I don’t care what the coach says in his own defense. As I stated earlier, I have been on both ends of a blowout and it not a learning experience for either team.

  37. rafflaw:

    An idiot could have kept this score down. How about playing your reserves exclusively after the 3 minute mark of each quarter except the first quarter. No zone defense and no half-court or full court press. As CCD said, no shots before 4-5 touches. No shot before 5 seconds on the shot clock. No fast breaks. Four corners. Come on this is easy, and I don’t even coach basketball!

  38. @mespo727272 –

    Sounds like you want the coach to work harder to *not* play basketball than to play basketball. For what purpose? My god, this is high school, not grade school. They’re all big girls. When you make the team in high school sports, there’s no fine print saying that the opponent’ll take your wittle feewings into account. The burden was not on the coach in this case – it was on those who scheduled the game and on the ADs who were *in the stands*. The coach did what he could while still respecting his *own* players.

    A few points – he only has three reserves. Follow me, now. This means that he had to have at least two starters in the game, all game.

    Sounds like he *did* keep the score down. They were up 25-0 three minutes in. If one does the math . . .

    What do you mean, “no zone defense?” A lazy zone is the one to play to give your opponent the best chance to score. You can’t ask your kids to “play man and let ’em beat you.”

    He shut down meaningful pressure and began playing his bench in the opening few minutes. Again, while still respecting the sport of basketball and his own players, what more could he do? Why’s the burden all on him, anyway? If this is so devastating to the other team, why didn’t *their* coach fold up the tent and go home?

    Just wondering – when your kids play musical chairs, do you make sure there’s an extra seat?


    ps. you oughtta slap your baroque prose around a little, maybe it’ll straighten up and pay more attention to actually making a point.

  39. klf;

    “you oughtta slap your baroque prose around a little, maybe it’ll straighten up and pay more attention to actually making a point.”


    I’ll do that if you get to a cardiologist to verify you have a heart! BTW, ol’ Coach Grimes has more than three reserves, since they play specific positions. You can make the center the point guard, the forward the #2, etc. I know that is the over the head of your typical, slow-witted ex-jock (with their colloquial prose), but remarkably we don’t live by their Neanderthal rules or sensibilities.

    Think what you will, but the public, the Association, and the school all have spoken — disgruntled kids, disgruntled coach, and immature adults notwithstanding. Rail against the tide if you like, but just remember the smallest of minorities adopts your warped perspective, and thankfully so.

    See you around the playground. Maybe you can beat some ten year old out of his lunch money while “respecting” the time-honored game of pitching pennies.

  40. I highly doubt you have a clue what you are talking about mespo. This showed a complete lack of a backbone by this school. Not to mention they didnt apologize to the other school until after the article was written by barry zorn. Seems like if they were really sorry they would have apologized the next day. I believe every word coach grimes said in defending himself and think he has become a scapegoat. Maybe the coach of his other team should have been fired for even putting these girls on the court. If you did even an ounce of research you would see that blow outs like this have occurred quite frequently to dallas academy.

  41. I also read your reply to Fudd. I know that that is a complete lie. If you substituted your guards for tailbacks you would have been penalized because there are number restrictions on people who play those positions. Not to mention that any real competitor would be more humiliated by taking it easy on them and turning the game into a circus rather than just finishing the game while both teams play as hard as they can.

  42. Chris,

    So your saying that Grimes behavior, unsportsmanlike by definition and unrepentantly un-Christian values being displayed by an employee of a Christian school, is the fault of the opposing coach or excused by technical restrictions on tailbacks?

    Hm. Blame the victim and irrelevant technicalities.

    Where have I seen that before?

    cough cough cough Neocons cough cough

    This line of reasoning is a dead end and does nothing but expose you as a hypocrite and/or an equivocator. Feel free to pursue, but good luck with that.

  43. chris:

    “If you did even an ounce of research you would see that blow outs like this have occurred quite frequently to dallas academy.”


    And they are all despicable. I wonder about the emotional maturity of people like you who find nothing wrong with humiliating children with special needs. Maybe it’s rage or some deep-seeded psychological need to prove who is the stronger. Whatever the reason for this emotional handicap, it’s all too common among the neo-con crowd and likewise despicable. And that hero worship of some ruthless coach is even more incredible. You are right about one thing though, the School should have acted faster. Apologies were in order that evening, and those AD’s should have to answer some tough questions too. Like klf and King Canute you can rail against the tide until your heart’s (assuming you have one) content, but the tide pays you no mind.

  44. Chris:

    “I also read your reply to Fudd. I know that that is a complete lie. If you substituted your guards for tailbacks you would have been penalized because there are number restrictions on people who play those positions.”


    By the way Chris, there is something called changing jerseys. Complicated and clever I know, but we figured out how to do it without any help from a neo-con. We also had breakaway number vests which are held together with Velcro which also we used. Your state of sports knowledge is just incredible.

  45. “A parent who attended the game said Covenant continued to make 3-pointers — even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.”

    And some people above are actually calling this honorable?

    I’m reminded of the time I took my handicapped son to the grocery store, and the little high school baggers were making fun of my son in their cloaked high school language, thinking we adults had no idea what they were saying. Then one of these hotshot baggers took our groceries out to the car, and he regaled us with how he was the football hero of Kempsville High. I told him I had never had my groceries wheeled out by an actual hero before. My sarcasm was lost on him. This pimply faced little teenaged stud actually believed he was a hero because his team had won a football game. Good Lord.

    To me he was a ridiculously self-important, overblown jackass with a pathetic ego problem who was openly mean and cruel, and he thought he was fooling people when in fact we could see right through him. I wonder what kind of hard knocks he ended up receiving once that big ego deflated out in the “real world.”

    So Covenant won points. They and their cheering crowd are very proud of this accomplishment.

    But they lost being compassionate. They lost the opportunity to rise above their egos. They lost an opportunity to be inclusionary rather than purely competitive, and to show the world that as Christians they put a higher value on things of the spirit rather than things of this world.

    Covenant lost bigger things than the game.

  46. LindyLou:

    Brava LindyLou. Both of my kids are good athletes and played on winning and championship teams in several sports. Neither would run the score up on an opponent, and no one who coached them would do it either. I am aghast at these (and there is no other word) jackasses who can’t restrain their macho urges to totally humiliate an opponent, but for whom there would be no one to play. And what honor is there in thrashing an over-matched team? I blame the parents of Covenant’s players as well as the coach for letting this get out of hand. They should have told the school administrators they would not let their kids play for such a creep. Alas, it’s hard to be rational when you’re living out your sports fantasies through your kid.

  47. I enjoy speaking to people like you mespo. If the learning disabilities these children had in any way affected their ability to play basketball then it is the responsibility of those children’s parents and their coach to make sure they are not put in a position to be humiliated. I dont disagree with you that these blow outs are outrageous, but the common denominator in all the blow outs is the administration of dallas academy for continuing to put those girls on the court. Coach Grimes was a scape goat, and only after this gained national attention.

  48. chris:

    I very much agree that both school administrations have things to be embarrassed about, not the least of which is their failure to anticipate and mitigate this train wreck.

  49. I think its funny how you cant disagree with someone with out name calling or trying to belittle someone because of a difference of opinion. You are on here acting as if you are the moral authority, yet you are calling me a neo-con and a jackass. Seems to me that that is a little hypocritical.

  50. chris:

    “you are calling me a neo-con and a jackass. Seems to me that that is a little hypocritical.”


    I called you no such thing(s). I said I didn’t need a neo-con to tell me how to handle a mismatch, and then I said that those who want to humiliate their opponents are jackasses. I fail to see how this means you, but if you feel the shoe fits, I am not one to argue. I did call you emotionally immature for supporting this coach, and I still hold to that belief.

    As for Coach Grimes’ alternatives, I count plenty as I move back up through the thread. One I didn’t mention was going to the timekeeper and, with the agreement of the coaches, running a continuous clock. I have done that myself several times without any complaint.

  51. You have no idea what my level of maturity is emotionally sir. Ive spent just about all of the past 3 years of my life in Iraq defending our country and your right to the beliefs that you hold. Disagreeing with you on this specific issues doesnt give you any insight as to my level of emotional maturity. Walk a mile in my shoes and then tell me about me.

  52. The man also said that he stopped pressing after the first three minutes when the score was 25-0. If he would have kept pressing the rest of the game the score would have been much higher than it was. Second he only had 3 subs. Basketball is a lot different than football, especially in high school, in the fact that basketball players tend to be more athletic. So switching the positions around would not fix the fact that one team was far superior than the other. Im not saying that i dont feel bad for those girls. Im just saying that it wasnt all Coach Grimmes fault, but he is the only one who lost his job. This was an issue way before Grimmes’ team even played against those girls, but everyone places all the blame on coach grimes.

  53. chris:

    Everyone here respects your service to the Country, but as I ‘m sure you’ve seen, your ideas stand on their own merit. Opining about your level of maturity may be over the top, but it is indisputable that this situation was over the top as well. I think the foundation of your opinion is revealed in your comment about the coach: “Im not saying that i dont feel bad for those girls. Im just saying that it wasnt all Coach Grimmes fault, but he is the only one who lost his job.” I agree with that sentiment, but as I ‘m sure your previous experience overseas taught you that positions of authority come with accountability for results. Or put another way, to whom much is given, much is expected. The coach was wrong here, and that the school delayed its decision until after public pressure was wrong as well. Ironically, the correct decision was made though. I admire your compassion, I just think it’s misplaced.

  54. The whole situation was handled irresponsibly, and to make it worse Covenant tried to make things all better by deflecting the responsibility to the coach instead of showing leadership and accepting some of the responsibility as an institution. Coach Grimmes was a scapegoat. I dont think he was innocent here, but i think a good portion of the blame falls on the athletic director as well as the administration of dallas acadamy.

  55. Chris, I’m late but submitting anyway.

    Thanks for your service overseas.

    Coach Grimes formerly of Covenant School of Dallas could’ve managed differently. Please don’t take my word for it; here is an article that quotes high school basketball coach Doyle Wolverton, who has an overall varsity record of 1,075-171 and is fourth all-time among high school basketball coaches in victories.

    Chris, when Coach Grimes disagrees with the administration he could’ve managed that differently too. He has the choice to do it privately or publicly. He chose to air his grievance publicly (e-mailing the newspaper his position about the apology and the out come of the game.)

    This quote from Coach Grimes seems inconsistent to me, Grimes wrote in the e-mail, according to the newspaper. “We played the game as it was meant to be played. My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.”

    The score after the 1st quarter 29-00
    1st half 59-00
    3rd quarter 88-00
    Final 100-00
    If that’s not running up the score what is? Coach Grimes has a maturity issue to work thru, along with finding a new job.

    Chris, did you know this site was voted ABA Journal number one in 2008? The people who post here have fantastic hearts and laser like minds. I encourage you to keep coming back, I find the perspectives expressed here exceptional!

  56. If you look at the scores that the dallas academy has had in the past, they are almost all blow outs comparable to this one, yet non of them made the national media. Non of the coaches of the other schools are in danger of loosing their jobs, and im sure that there were no apologies either. There is so much anger that has been directed toward coach grimmes, and while i dont think he is totally innocent, no body will even consider that the majority of the blame should be placed on dallas academy.

  57. Couldn’t Dallas Academy have made at least *one* basket at any one point in the game? I mean, even by luck?

    If the answer is a “no,” if all their baskets in previous games were “given” to them by the other team – as their coach said at one point – then can you really call what they do a sport?

    And as a side note: now that Dallas Academy has finished its rounds in the news media, they decide to drop their “play till the end” attitude and withdraw from girls basketball for the rest of the season. Great sportsmanship there. That’s right, kiddos, it’s okay to give up if you got beat pretty bad. This is your life lesson, learn it well!

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