John Jeffrey Murray, 51, is either a fanatical anti-smoker or a reckless hoser. A court will have to decide. Murray was charged with drenching his wife with a garden house for smoking in the house and then wrestling away a phone when she tried to call the police.
Murray insisted in a statement to police that this was merely as matter of “overspray” and that he did not intend to drench his wife. He also elbowed his wife in a struggle to hang up the phone. He was charged with domestic battery.
For the flip side of a case of smokers attacking critical anti-smokers, click here.
For the full story, click here.
This type of person has no sympathy for addicts or alcoholics unless their children become afflicted.Then, they are forced by a treatment center to learn about it. Often they are what Dr Jane Brody referred to as the “high functioning alcoholic”.They are narrow minded, immature and lack the ability to feel empathy. They are not worth arguing with.
NPO 1, June 30, 2009 at 8:59 pm
I have zero sympathy for people who create their own problems, and then act like victims.
This statement I can agree with.
They need to take responsibilities for their actions and correct it.
I agree with this statement as well.
I know some like to blame it on genetics and it is partly true, but the behavior is not entirely directed by genetics– they are just weak and lazy, and don’t want to put up any efforts.
This statement I totally Disagree with. Some people are predisposed to have cancer and some faiths agree that faith can heal the cancer, do you have that type of faith? Do you agree with that?
Some people with substance abuse that earnestly try and quit are they still weak to you?
What about the ones that have a slip? Which I don’t believe in as a slip is a calculated opportunity drink. Which makes them weak in your book.
Have you ever obsessed over something and knowing it is not good for you but you choose the easier softer way? Do you feel that people who are over weight, can lose all of the weight that they want if they just regulate the intake?
I think you need to look at that story about that city Attorney sleeping in the garbage can and restate what you feel. My heart goes out to him. Does yours? Is he weak to you?
” I have no sympathy for people who have no sympathy for people with problems.” …. Anonymously Yours
I have zero sympathy for people who create their own problems, and then act like victims. They need to take responsibilities for their actions and correct it. I know some like to blame it on genetics and it is partly true, but the behavior is not entirely directed by genetics– they are just weak and lazy, and don’t want to put up any efforts.
Thanks for the tip but I no longer consume alcohol. I am more interested in a mountain hike. Now you might get the connection with AY.
Gyges 1, June 30, 2009 at 7:49 pm
AY, SM,
Don’t you two have each-others contact info? Not to intrude, but the fact that my post is intruding is mildly annoying.
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Sorry dude, did not see that you had posted here before now. Are you asking us to exchange contact info so be it. If you are asking me to a bar what kinda food do they have? If you want a recipe for a cake go back a month or too. If you don’t want me to post this typpe of stuff, no problem. Just say so.
AY, SM,
Don’t you two have each-others contact info? Not to intrude, but the fact that my post is intruding is mildly annoying.
That being said, take Co-119 North to Longmont (don’t speed, there’s always cops) take a left on Sunset, then a right on Boston Immediately after you cross over the river Left hand Brewery will be on your right.
Everything’s good (I’d avoid the 300 lb Monkey if it’s still on tap in the tasting room, it’s a good beer, but the other stuff if better). Their Oktoberfest is a good place to start.
Well thank you. Are you gonna take me to Boulder too? I promise to be me.
I don’t think I will see her before I leave for Boulder on Thursday, but I will call her.
SwMom,
You might be right. Had to get a new phone and all numbers fried. Can you have ET call me?
I think the man needs Al-anon. Al Franken is a member of Al-anon. He is open about it. His wife Frannie is open about her alcoholism.
Yes, Jill.
lottakatz 1, June 30, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Yes, exactly, what Jill said.
Double that. Where is Buddha and FF LEO?
NPO 1, June 30, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I have zero sympathy for smokers, druggies, and alcoholics. She smoked in the house, and is violating his rights to clean air. They should take it as an accident, and stop wasting time on rights of a smoker.
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I have no sympathy for people who have no sympathy for people with problems. You want clean air, call the Truman Show.
Yes, exactly, what Jill said.
This is not acceptable. This woman is a victim of violence by her husband. It should not be justified or dismissed. This is precisely the attitude which encourages domestic violence.
He is an adult man. He has many choices in this situation, one of which is to leave the home himself and talk with her about it in a neutral location. Instead he chose to harm his wife.
A spouse need not tolerate the smoke of their spouse. It’s called divorce, a civil action. One might hope that a couple would try coming to a verbal agreement on this issue first. It is disrespectful to ignore your partner’s wishes about smoking. The smoke is a real health problem. If a spouse will not respect another spouse, the answer is not violence, it is discussion, with the next step being, leaving.
It worries me that people are comfortable with seeing a woman humiliated and hit by her husband. We need to quit accepting these things in this society.
Are you f’n kidding me?
My god; what would the penalty be if he pushed her in the pool?
(the foregoing assumes the wife can swim)
Not self defense. He was not in imminent danger. Also, this was presumably not the first time she smoked inside the house, so he was on notice.
I have zero sympathy for smokers, druggies, and alcoholics. She smoked in the house, and is violating his rights to clean air. They should take it as an accident, and stop wasting time on rights of a smoker.
Self defense. She was battering him with the cigarette smoke, and he was simply defending himself.
Clearly battery. Intent to not hit his wife is not relevant.