Republicans may want to just keep away from open mikes for a while. After a ranking Republican in California was caught describing in disgusting detail sex with a lobbyist, Republican Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-Ohio) was caught whispering to a constituent that she agrees that President Obama is not a legitimate president due to his birth.
On the tape, a clearly unhinged supporter is insisting the Obama can’t be a president because of his birth. Schmidt is heard saying “M’aam, m’aam. I agree with you, but the courts don’t.”
It still beats relations with a lobbyist, but Schmidt is in the unenviable position of stating either than she believe Obama is a foreign-born, constitutional pretender or say that she will say anything to constituents.
Hey rafflaw,
Why don’t you tell us about all the evidence supporting Obama’s birth in Hawaii?
Why don’t you show us the pictures of newborn Barack Jr.?
How about recognizing the doctor that brought Barack Jr. into this world? -He’s be a good one for Obama to have on his team for healthcare reform support, don’t you think? Is anybody ever gonna tell this doctor that he delivered the first black president? Perhaps Barack should invite him to the White House.
Or maybe you could get one of the hospitals, Queens or Kapiolani, to somehow create a record of Obama and/or his mother ever being a patient.
You have based everything you believe on a computer generated piece of paper, and the word of the person with the most to gain, and the most to lose. –You’re belief is based much more on faith. Mine is based on numerous pieces of evidence that support his Kenyan birth.
“It is amazing how dead-headed some people can be even with the facts staring them in the face.”
Right back at ya rafflaw.
Gyges,
Your faith in Obama’s authenticity is too strong to break by supplying evidence to the contrary. Your efforts to run away from the question do plenty to tell me that you can’t handle the truth. That’s not a digg at you. That’s human nature.
You can’t even comprehend how it could happen, let alone, believe it could actually happen.
When the truth comes out, know that I tried to tell you.
Mespo,
Great job dealing with our resident “Birther”. It is amazing how dead-headed some people can be even with the facts staring them in the face.
BIRTHER:
“Contrary to your claim, the document HAS NOT been proven to be a forgery.”
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When the editor of right-wing WorldNetDaily, a yellow journalist of the lowest order, won’t use it out of fear for its authenticity that’s good enough for me. Here’s what WND says, “In 1961, Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar, not the Coast Province of Kenya,” as stated on the forgery. There is none so blind as he who will not see!
Glad you liked my saga. Tune in next time when I relate my riveting tale about my personal quest for the “Holey Quail.” I found it too! Call me Percival.
Birther,
Would it matter if I did? I long ago gave up trying to convince Flat Earthers that the earth was round.
True Believers will find a reason to believe even if they have to make one up. Although sometimes there are things even the worst refuse to swallow: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108773 (note, for those of you who don’t want to give page views to the World Net Daily, the summation of the link is: there is no evidence that this is real, and plenty that it isn’t).
mespo,
Contrary to your claim, the document HAS NOT been proven to be a forgery.
I do appreciate hearing about your adventure.
BIRTHER:
That document has already been shown to be a forgery but I also have a similar story about by my friend, Jerome Washington, whom I accompanied to Petersburg, Virginia one day to obtain another birth certificate. On that day, the clerk mysteriously made us wait and pay a “consideration” to her for the rare and precious document pertaining to Jerome’s ancestor. I noted that it was old, wrinkly, sealed, and conclusively proved that George Washington was born in Petersburg, Virginia in 1902. Now, I hope I have proven to you, Gyges, and anyone else reading this post that our first President was not born in 1732 in Westmoreland County, Virginia, but was actually born in Petersburg, Virginia, 103 years after he died in 1799!
Case closed.
I’m sorry Gyges. I thought you looked at the evidence filed with the Court.
You’re welcome to debunk it.
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Buddha:
“I’m very afraid to ask how you know what Orly Taitz smells like, mespo”
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Her reasoning was “ripe” about ten years ago. I can only imagine the smelly logic now.
O.T.–Another electocution death in Iraq:
“n May, Adam signed a contract that would put him back in the action–as a private contractor for Triple Canopy, the company that the State Department has chosen to take over much of Blackwater’s security work in Iraq. According to his cousin, Paul Moreno, Hermanson was offered about $350 a day for a four-month contract. “It happened real fast,” Jesse remembers. “He didn’t want the family to know and get worried. He actually did it behind the backs of the family–my mom found out a day and a half before he was going. We were trying to change his mind and say it wasn’t worth the money, but he felt that he needed to do it to pay off bills and get a house and be financially secure.” Jesse adds, “He had also tried to get a job in Vegas as a Metro Police officer, and they denied him even with all of his training.” Adam’s mother, Patricia, says, “We know he disliked it. His plan was that after four months he was going to leave Triple Canopy and get a house.”
Hermanson arrived in Iraq in June and took up residence inside the Green Zone at Triple Canopy’s base at Camp Olympia. His family said his e-mails were brief and primarily made up of questions about how everyone else was doing. As for his work, he told the family he wasn’t allowed to say much. “The last time I talked to him, I noticed that it wasn’t really Adam–the way he talked,” Patricia recalls. “He said he was working seventeen-hour days. When I asked how it was going there, he said, ‘I can’t really say much, but let’s just say the average Joe couldn’t be here and do what we do.'”
n May, Adam signed a contract that would put him back in the action–as a private contractor for Triple Canopy, the company that the State Department has chosen to take over much of Blackwater’s security work in Iraq. According to his cousin, Paul Moreno, Hermanson was offered about $350 a day for a four-month contract. “It happened real fast,” Jesse remembers. “He didn’t want the family to know and get worried. He actually did it behind the backs of the family–my mom found out a day and a half before he was going. We were trying to change his mind and say it wasn’t worth the money, but he felt that he needed to do it to pay off bills and get a house and be financially secure.” Jesse adds, “He had also tried to get a job in Vegas as a Metro Police officer, and they denied him even with all of his training.” Adam’s mother, Patricia, says, “We know he disliked it. His plan was that after four months he was going to leave Triple Canopy and get a house.”
Hermanson arrived in Iraq in June and took up residence inside the Green Zone at Triple Canopy’s base at Camp Olympia. His family said his e-mails were brief and primarily made up of questions about how everyone else was doing. As for his work, he told the family he wasn’t allowed to say much. “The last time I talked to him, I noticed that it wasn’t really Adam–the way he talked,” Patricia recalls. “He said he was working seventeen-hour days. When I asked how it was going there, he said, ‘I can’t really say much, but let’s just say the average Joe couldn’t be here and do what we do.'”
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090921/scahill
Roland,
The pun so obvious I don’t know how I missed it! Good catch.
Byron,
Just so you know, Birther is a troll that used to go by the nick Jim Byrne. When I talk to Jim, I’m talking to Birther. He changed nicks because he got his butt handed to him on a plate four times in a row while being confrontational about his birther nonsense (myself, mespo, Mike S. and Vince Treacy – Vince really went all out too, it was a bloodbath worth reading in the Retired Major General thread). He’s a propagandist and a well known waste of time. Please feel free to taunt and humiliate him as you see fit, but I predict like most, you’ll tire quickly. He’s not very good sport. Kinda weak in the whole logic department and basic concepts of evidence.
Excuse me “…change tack…”
Birther,
I apologize, I was giving you too much credit. You believe that President Obama was born in Kenya?
So what does this make, reason number Five why President Obama can’t be President? Doesn’t it bug you that you keep having to change tacts? I mean you KNOW in your heart that he just can’t be President, but you can’t seem to come up with a good reason why.
No wonder you have to use obviously nonsequitar filler to try and make President Obama look bad.
Birther,
You are of course right, not only is every non “natural born citizen” an African and not an American, but everyone who doesn’t respond to something said about an issue involving them endorses what was said, AND is an African.
I’m not the one who implied the President was born in Kenya, that was you. From your second post in this topic: “It’s not an African-America president we have a problem with. It’s an African President that we have a problem with?”
Why don’t YOU bother to actually think about what you’re saying, and then maybe you’ll be caught up enough to have a serious discussion.
Roland,
I think the Republicans share the blame. The Senate certifies the election. Unfortuantely, a House and a Senate controlled by the President-Elect’s own Party leaves us without any real checks. And when he’s the first president of color, as we have all seen, anybody who would question his background would be considered a racist.
I wouldn’t expect his own Party to get in his way.
When this is all over, we should put some real checks in the system. The person that gets the keys to the nuclear weapons can have no personal secrets. For our sake, and for the sake of other nations. Transparency must be more than a buzz word.
Jean is full of Schmidt anyway!
If Obama was not born in this country then we cannot depend on Republicans to defend this country. George W Bush has therefore turned over the reigns of this country to a foreg=ign national. With all the Intellegence this country can muster he failed to protect us.
Byron,
Don’t let Mike (I assume, therefore it must be) Appleton fool you. The racism crap is a ploy to prevent people from seeing the evidence presented and joining the fight.
Mike has never seen the vault copy of Obama’s birth certificate. He, like many others, believes because he must. If Obama was born in Kenya, he fooled Mike Appleton, and many others. For them to even subconciously acknowledge that Obama may have been born in Kenya, the would have to admit that they were suckered.
Even Professor Turley suggests that Obama should release his vault copy.