A billboard in Colorado is causing considerable controversy and gives an insight into the radical fringe of America. The billboard by car dealership owner Phil West in Wheat Ridge, Colorado combines the “birther” controversy with the suggestion that Obama is both a Muslim and a terrorist. It further makes the bizarre connection to Fort Hood — suggesting that Obama could at any time go on a shooting spree in the West Wing.
The billboard shown above included a cartoon of Obama wearing a Muslim turban and reads “PRESIDENT or JIHAD?” It also says “WAKE UP AMERICA! REMEMBER FT. HOOD!”
West sees nothing wrong in such a message. He insisted in one interview “You can’t suggest things. You can’t profile. You gotta call a spade a spade.”
He further adds (while dancing on the edge of sanity) “[e]verything I have read about Mr. Obama points right to the fact that he is a Muslim. And that is the agenda of what Muslim is all about. It’s about anti-American, it’s about anti-Christianity.” People buy cars from this man.
My favorite quote, however, comes from passing motorist Keith Walters: “I can’t honestly say he’s a Jihadist, but there’s a lot of things that are questionable. The whole birth certificate controversy. From what I’ve read, there’s no proof Obama isn’t a Muslim. And I don’t believe there’s any racism [in the billboard]. I think that should be a question asked to any president who — they have some questionable backgrounds.”
I love the use of “proving the negative.” The sign is legitimate because “there’s no proof Obama isn’t a Muslim.” There’s no proof that he is not the Anti-Christ or the Second Coming either.
By the way, Obama makes a terrible Muslim. He smokes, drinks, attends Church, fails to observe any Islamic holidays, raises his children as Christians, and eats pork. Pat Robertson would make a better Muslim.
It is moments like this that one wonders how we succeeded in forming a nation of self-government, let alone acquired nuclear weapons.
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Yes drill SARgent
cus you told me to drill SARgent
Thanks for forwarding the ad you answered for your current position. It’s nice to know that the Necon GOP are as brilliant as you, bdadupe. Either that or they are letting cats compose their twaddle now. Given the quality of your work, I tend to go with the former as cats have a better grasp on that which they opine than you even if your spelling and grammar are on par.
Well Bdaman You are Observiant,
That is a good screen name as it implies loyalty as one would pay close attention to detail.
Of course I could always use double or triple income. But there are very few jobs that permit one to peruse the other income while at work for one master unless of course you work for the Government. Then all bets are off.
Not as observiant as you AY, hey looking for some part time work.
You can work from home and all that is necessary is to know how to utilize the left and right click of the hamster wheel.
The pay is extremley guut and yew dun eve n gots to no how to spill. you just copy and paste
Observiant, Bdaman,
Glad to see you back.
My apologies in advance, my handler has ordered me to redirect my efforts to the climategate scandal. We are on full TRtHK Alert here at the command center and are trying to identify the responsible party who hacked the server at CRU.
Once identified we are told to use all means necessary to persuade this party to hack the server at the Hawaiin DOH.
It may be are only chance to see the original BC on file before they accidentally dump the original raw data.
I will be back with my regular copy/paste troll commenting after my efforts have been exhausted.
Sincerely,
Bdatroll
yes drill SARgent
cus you told me to drill SARgent.
The page from Honolulu Advertiser is not available anymore, so here is the full article:
From the Honolulu Advertise, July 28, 2009: QUOTE
Hawaii officials confirm Obama’s original birth certificate still exists
By Dan Nakaso
Advertiser Staff Writers
Hawai’i’s Health Department confirmed yesterday that it has President Obama’s original Aug. 4, 1961, birth certificate in storage, but the announcement is unlikely to satisfy conspiracy theorists who insist Obama was born in Kenya.
“We don’t destroy vital records,” Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said. “That’s our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records.”
The Health Department’s director reiterated yesterday that she has seen Obama’s birth records.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen,” Fukino said in a statement. “I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”
Fukino tried on Oct. 31 to put an end to the belief among so-called “birthers” that Obama was not born in Honolulu’s Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. The birthers insist that Obama was not born in the U.S. and is therefore ineligible to be president.
Despite Fukino’s statement yesterday — and several court rulings and statements by Hawai’i’s Republican governor, Linda Lingle, the issue continued to resonate from Capitol Hill to the blogosphere.
A congressional resolution introduced yesterday by Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawai’i, commemorating the 50th anniversary of Island statehood was temporarily postponed because birthers objected to a clause noting Obama was born in Hawai’i, said Dave Helfert, an Abercrombie spokesman.
The line “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961;” appeared to be construed by birthers as a thinly veiled attempt to get Congress to affirm Obama’s U.S. citizenship, Helfert said.
As the issue came to a vote yesterday, Minnesota Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann rose to object, saying there was not a quorum present.
The House later voted unanimously 378-0 to approve the resolution. Bachmann voted in favor of the resolution.
original form exists
Mainland media has also continued to focus attention on the birthers. CNN’s Lou Dobbs last week demanded Obama’s original birth certificate. That was followed by CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein telling staffers of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” that the issue is a “dead” story, according to a Los Angeles Times report.
In an e-mail, according to the Times, Klein wrote that CNN researchers had determined that Obama’s 1961 birth certificate no longer exists because Hawai’i officials had discarded paper documents in 2001 — a claim denied yesterday by Isle health officials.
In 2001, Hawai’i’s paper documents were reproduced in electronic format but “any paper data prior to that still exists,” Health Department spokeswoman Okubo said.
Okubo would not say where Obama’s original birth certificate is, but said “we have backups for all of our backups.”
“Our Certificate of Live Birth is the standard form, which was modeled after national standards that are acceptable by federal agencies and organizations,” Okubo said. “With that form, you can get your passport or your soccer registration or your driver’s license.”
One thing that remains unclear is whether Obama has a copy of the original 1961 Certificate of Live Birth, or if he would even be allowed to see it if he asked.
Hawai’i’s disclosure law (Hawai’i Revised Statutes 338-18) states that “it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part on any such record … ”
The law further states that the Health Department “shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record.”
Those who have “direct and tangible interest” are generally limited to the person named in the record, the spouse, parent, descendant, or personal representative, or by someone who is involved in marital, parental or death litigation involving the named person’s vital record or other legal reason established by a court order, and various official agency or organization representatives, including the state director of health, according to the law.
format changed
The standard “Certification of Live Birth” that Hawai’i health officials now issue — and was posted on Obama’s campaign Web site — has less information than was required on the “Certificate of Live Birth” that Eleanor Nordyke was issued for each of her twin daughters on Aug. 5, 1961.
Nordyke was in labor at Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital the same time as Obama’s late mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, Nordyke said. She gave birth to twins the day after Obama was born, Nordyke said, and her daughters later attended Punahou School with Obama.
The modern-day birth certificates issued to anyone seeking their Hawai’i birth records have spaces for the names and races of the parents, as well as information such as the time of birth.
Nordyke’s 1961 birth certificates required much more information, such as the ages, occupations and birthplaces of the babies’ parents.
There was a box to determine whether the mother’s address was “on a Farm or Plantation,” and the signature — but not the name — of the “attendant” was required, as well as boxes to determine whether the attendant was an “M.D.,” “D.O.,” “midwife” or “other.”
Birthers have failed to get state and federal courts in Hawai’i, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, California, Georgia and Mississippi to force Hawai’i officials to produce a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, with many of the courts agreeing with Lingle’s administration that birth records are confidential.
In October, the Hawai’i Supreme Court denied a writ of mandamus on behalf of Internet columnist Andy Martin. The court ruled that Martin did not have a “direct tangible interest” in seeking Obama’s birth certificate.
In December, the U.S. Supreme Court — without comment — declined to hear arguments in another case alleging Obama did not meet the Constitution’s citizenship requirements.
first mention
In November 2008, The Advertiser reported that the first published mention of the future president appeared in a Sunday Advertiser birth announcement that ran on Aug. 13, 1961:
“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”
The identical announce- ment ran the following day in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.
Birthers wave off those birth announcements, saying that Obama family members 48 years ago could have phoned in false information to both newspapers.
Such vital statistics, however, were not sent to the newspapers by the general public but by the Health Department, which received the information directly from hospitals, Okubo said.
Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn’s name, weight and time of birth.
“Take a second and think about that,” wrote Robert Farley of the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times’ Pulitzer Prize winning Web site PoliticFact.com on July 1. “In order to phony those notices up, it would have required the complicity of the state Health Department and two independent newspapers — on the off chance this unnamed child might want to one day be president of the United States.” END QUOTE
It was posted on the Retired General thread on July 28, 2009 at 2:30 pm,
http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/19/retired-major-general-joins-litigation-over-obamas-birth-status/
(The retired general later denied that he had ever joined Orly’s suit, and that she tried to add him without his consent. Just another day in OrlyFantasyLand).
The court order dismissing Cook v. Good:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/23402900/COOK-v-GOOD-17-USCA-Order-dismissing-11-Notice-of-Appeal-Gov-uscourts-gamd-77171-17-0
From the Honolulu Advertise, July 28, 2009: QUOTE
Hawaii officials confirm Obama’s original birth certificate still exists
By Dan Nakaso
Advertiser Staff Writers
…
In November 2008, The Advertiser reported that the first published mention of the future president appeared in a Sunday Advertiser birth announcement that ran on Aug. 13, 1961:
“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”
The identical announcement ran the following day in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.
Birthers wave off those birth announcements, saying that Obama family members 48 years ago could have phoned in false information to both newspapers.
Such vital statistics, however, were not sent to the newspapers by the general public but by the Health Department, which received the information directly from hospitals, Okubo said.
Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn’s name, weight and time of birth.
“Take a second and think about that,” wrote Robert Farley of the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times’ Pulitzer Prize winning Web site PoliticFact.com on July 1. “In order to phony those notices up, it would have required the complicity of the state Health Department and two independent newspapers — on the off chance this unnamed child might want to one day be president of the United States.” END QUOTE
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/Hawaii%20officials%20confirm%20Obama’s%20original%20birth%20certificate%20still%20exists?GID=oc4onLOVnbg56pPc2/scNBYxvt8yvewDUvaP6W4SCK4%3D
Update:
The lawsuit that launched a thousand posts at the Retired General thread has been officially pronounced dead.
From the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals:
“Pursuant to the 11th Cir.R.42-2(c), this appeal is dismissed for want of prosecution because the appellant failed to file brief and record excerpts within the time fixed by the rules.”
It looks like Orly led Major Stefan Cook out onto a long, long limb — and then chopped the tree down. She never filed a brief, and never filed the records.
I have heard that this years gift is an electronic hamster. What will Bdaman have to do if it is perfected?
Run, hamster, run.
squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak
gocart mozart,
I had already pointed out Harriet Miers to Bdaman, thank you for adding Meese and Kennedy – not that it will do any good since Bdaman is incapable of reading anyone’s posts (at least there’s no evidence of it so far). My guess is that he’s an like an idiot-savant without the savant part. He’s never posted any ideas of his own here, just tired republican talking points and inane links, ad infinitum. The rest of us, however, enjoy seeing him slapped down, even if he isn’t smart enough to realize it. Nice job.
Byron,
Just out of curiosity, why do you think that Marx is wrong now? (Personally, I think that his writing is a mix of good ideas and tragic mistakes – the trick is figuring out which is which.) I respect your attempt to encourage Bdaman to use his mind and although I doubt you will be successful, I wish you luck.
Bdaman,
I just left you an opening – if you use your mind and engage in debate you can prove me wrong! (A considered response to my post on the other thread about science, for instance) And maybe I’ll give you a cookie. 😉 I’m not holding my breath, though.
Bdaman
1, November 24, 2009 at 10:10 am
“the first time in presidential history that a president has BOUGHT his personal attorney into the Whitehouse. (IMO conflict of interest)” [I assume you mean brought]
Have you heard of Harriet Myers, Edwin Meese and lets not even mention Bobby Kennedy who of course was not JFK’s personal attorney but even closer. ASSHAT!
Bdaman:
Star Parker is another person to be admired. What a story she has. Star Parker for President!
I don’t think Mike S would call me a racist if I disagreed with him, in fact he and I disagree on economics quite a good deal and he doesn’t call me a racist.
He would certainly tell me why he disagrees with me and do it in a thoughtful way and might get a dig or 2 in. But what the hell I have been able to learn more about why I believe what I believe by being challenged than by having someone agree with me.
Before this web site-Marx wrong. Why is he wrong? Because Marx is a communist. So why is communism wrong? Because Marx wrote it.
I put a little more thought into things now. You should try it.
because Glenn Beck is associated with the Aryan Nation and last I heard they were racists.
He must of been very uncomfortable, in the back of his mind I bet he wished he had his hood so the other members of the nation wouldn’t know it was really him.
Jump to the 4:15 mark of the video
Bdaman
1, November 27, 2009 at 8:30 am
Byron,
You are a conservative as is FFLEO and many others who are definitely not racists. I say this not because we agree on a lot of things, but because I respect your integrity and your intelligence, which is much more important than political preferences.
Trust me if you disagree your a racist.
He likes you he really really like you.
Fulfillment of the prophecies
Byron,
There is quite a bit of dissent within the black intellectual community about the wisdom of automatically voting for the democrat candidate.
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/09/some-blacks-now-have-doubts-about-obama/
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/09/why-were-talking-about-race-again/
One must look to Obama’s stance on the school voucher program on how to become a black intellect in America.
Byron,
You are a conservative as is FFLEO and many others who are definitely not racists. Notice I was referring to the Republican Party and not to Conservatives in general. There is a big difference. If you examine Bdaman’s posts all his points come directly from the current Republican Party talking points. Your comments and FFLEO’s are not party line comments, but actually show thought and make sense from a logical view. Please don’t demean yourself by comparing yourself in any significant way to bdaman, he’s simply not anywhere close to being in your league. I say this not because we agree on a lot of things, but because I respect your integrity and your intelligence, which is much more important than political preferences.