In a remarkable find, archeologists have discovered tools buried by a Toba volcanic eruption 74,000 years ago in Northern India. Of course, where scientists see evidence of humans in the 15,000 years before earlier estimates, creationists see a pile of old tools and a gross miscalculation since the Earth is only 5000 years old.
Project director Michael Petraglia, Senior Research Fellow in the School of Archaeology at the University of Oxford, insists “this suggests that human populations were present in India prior to 74,000 years ago, or about 15,000 years earlier than expected based on some genetic clocks.” How foolish. What it really suggests that is his calculations are roughly 70,000 years off. According to new polls of Texans, he would be better off looking for evidence of man domesticating dinosaurs and maintaining dinosaur ranches, here. Those dinosaurs wranglers must have been something to behold. I guess that is why so many cowboys are still named Rex.
Petraglia needs to study Palintology or get a master’s degree from the new Creationist Science graduate program in Texas, here.
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Duct tape?
The largest tools have also been found, and they are older … they were used to repair old light engines.
http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2010/02/silvio-silver-crystals-of-mystery.html
from the main article:
“The research agrees with evidence that other human ancestors, such as the Neanderthals in Europe and the small brained Hobbits in Southeastern Asia, continued to survive well after Toba.”
what the hell is a “small brained Hobbit”? Did they find Gollum as well?
“Homo floresiensis, a pygmy-sized small-brained hominid popularly known as ‘the Hobbit’ was discovered five years ago, but controversy continues over whether the small brain is actually due to a pathological condition. How can its tiny brain size be explained?”
I would like to have more information on the tools, we already know what the Cretanists are going to say.
Mr. Gyges,
How did the date end up between the signs? You started your story and did not tell us how it ended.
AP
“evidence of man domesticating dinosaurs”
Why do we need to bring John McCain into this? 🙂
this is actually interesting.
“How foolish. What it really suggests that is his calculations are roughly 70,000 years off. According to new polls of Texans, he would be better off looking for evidence of man domesticating dinosaurs and maintaining dinosaur ranches, here.”
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Those tools were put there by the Almighty, as were the millions of year old fossils,, to test your faith. You pass … I fail.
Silly evolution believing ninnies. God set up this false evidence to test our true faiths. Who are you going to believe? The good book, or your lying brain?
Another note on this though and that is that the problem with Archaeology is not their scientific thinking or fact, but the tendency of certain powers that be to close the door to speculation before the evidence is all in. Taking India particularly, there is some persuasive evidence that would place their culture as one of the world’s oldest, but the investigation of this theory is limited and derided by an establishment invested in their own particular beliefs.
As a psychotherapist it would greatly disturb me that a new patient, with severe problems coming to a Psych ER, would be diagnosed and the diagnosis remained with her/him even when new evidence was uncovered. I believe in the scientific method, but also understand that those who use it are also human and they have their follies, foibles and vanity, which also come into play. The individual theories should be expanded and revised constantly as new evidence turns up.
To go full circle though there is nothing, literally, that would convince “true believers” that their creation myths are just that.
You’re taking swipes at Christian/western fundamentalists, but don’t leave out the Hindu/Indian fundamentalists! Indian culture and politics have their own parallels to our nationalistic, history/science re-defining goofballs. What ever the details of this find are, the fundamentalists there will probably either 1) totally deny it OR 2) claim that it reinforces their wacky world view.
(My favorite Hindu fundamentalist moment was an interview with a holy man regarding Mad Cow Disease who pretty much said, “Well, that’s what you get for eating the sacred cows!”)
“…creationists see a pile of old tools and a gross miscalculation since the Earth is only 5000 years old.”
In fact, creationists are the ones who ignore the evidence for the claims of a book full gullibility and claims that can never be proven.
Health care couldn’t possibly have gotten this screwed up in a mere 6,000 years.
And as far as India goes, if they keep digging, I’m pretty sure they can find some curry tucked away somewhere, still edible, and hotter than Hades.
Somebody a lot smarter than I once said, “Every man believes his own life is the New Year’s Eve of time. It isn’t.”
How superbly and humblingly true.
Elaine,
I can’t help but love it every time I see this line (although it usually pops up in EVILution discussions), “(1) That global warming is a scientific theory rather than a proven fact;”
Gyges–
You brought up astrology. Did you see this post over at Think Progress?
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South Dakota legislators tell schools to teach ‘astrological’ explanation for global warming.
by Brad Johnson
Think Progress, 2/25/2010
Last week, the South Dakota House of Representatives passed a resolution to “urge” public schools to teach astrology. By a 36-30 vote, the legislators passed House Concurrent Resolution 1009, “Calling for balanced teaching of global warming in the public schools of South Dakota.” After repeating long-debunked denier myths and calling carbon dioxide “the gas of life,” the resolution concludes that public schools should teach that “global warming is a scientific theory rather than a proven fact”:
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the House of Representatives of the Eighty-fifth Legislature of the State of South Dakota, the Senate concurring therein, that the South Dakota Legislature urges that instruction in the public schools relating to global warming include the following:
(1) That global warming is a scientific theory rather than a proven fact;
(2) That there are a variety of climatological, meteorological, ASTROLOGICAL (my emphasis), thermological, cosmological, and ecological dynamics that can effect [sic] world weather phenomena and that the significance and interrelativity of these factors is largely speculative; and
(3) That the debate on global warming has subsumed political and philosophical viewpoints which have complicated and prejudiced the scientific investigation of global warming phenomena; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Legislature urges that all instruction on the theory of global warming be appropriate to the age and academic development of the student and to the prevailing classroom circumstances.
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/25/south-dakota-legislators-tell-schools-to-teach-astrological-explanation-for-global-warming/
Creationism is a handmaiden of free market fundamentalism.
After all ignorant fundamentalist Christians are good, willing and most importantly unquestioning consumers.
I mean, if you are willing to buy the idea that the Earth is only 6,000 years old and that humans co-existed with dinosaurs then you will buy anything: Shamwows, Snuggies, Chrysler products, FauxNews, Sarah Palin and so on and so forth.
Elaine,
I once overheard a heated argument between two astrology buffs over the actual dates of the signs.
Professor Turley–
“Of course, where scientists see evidence of humans in the 15,000 years before earlier estimates, creationists see a pile of old tools and a gross miscalculation since the Earth is only 5000 years old.”
I hate to bring this up–but you’re off by a millenium. Didn’t you know that the Earth was created 6,000 years ago?
Are they still covered under warranty?
This is gonna screw up somebodys story really bad. Nah, they will just ignore this too as creationism and then discount it.