Dr. Jack Cassell, 56, a Mount Dora urologist and a registered Republican, left a message for Obama supporters on his door: heal thyself or at least find a doctor elsewhere.
Cassell posted a sign reading “If you voted for Obama…seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now, not in four years.” Personally, I am not sure I want a proctological exam with a guy who is really pissed off at Democrats and liberals. Hint: when you visit Dr. Cassell bring a copy of Rush Limbaugh on tape, the exam goes much smoother.
Curiously, Cassell insists that telling Obama supporters to “seek urologic care elsewhere” is not denying them care: “I’m not turning anybody away — that would be unethical. But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it.”
This raises an interesting question. It would seem unethical to deny care based on political beliefs but state law only addresses race, religion,
gender, sexual preference or disability. However, as an ethical matter, it would seem rather clear but I am but a juris doctor.
To further his unique combination of politics and proctology, Cassell supplies copies of a health-care timeline produced by Republicans and added a sign that reads “This is what the morons in Washington have done to your health care. Take one, read it and vote out anyone who voted for it.”
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bUDDHA:
Don’t put too much stock in Dave’s talents, a plastic worm is like baiting bears. As Jessie Ventura says “it is an assassination it ain’t fishing.”
Buddha,
It sounds like a truly great day. It sure beats working!
raff,
One on a jig and the others on a rod and reel with spinner bait, my cousin was using plastic worms. While I caught a couple, fish tremble at the presence of Dave. He is truly a mighty fish killer.
Byron,
You need to change your reading habits! However, at the moement I am more excited about Buddha’s bass fishing at the moment. Buddha,
what did you catch them on?
Gertyville:
How do you know the cash infusion into the banks was what saved them, if that is what you could call it? Couldn’t there have been some other mechanism going on at the same time? And how do know that the cash infusion isn’t what sent the economy over the cliff? You don’t because you really haven’t looked into it and are pushing an ideological explanation based on an historical meme.
Rafflaw:
they are not Texas history books, even I have my standards 🙂
Actually you did not touch a nerve and the quotes are mostly from Ominous Parallels by a Leonard Peikoff (sp?).
There are other definitions of the “isms” as the black congresswoman from CA says.
Can you believe that, a conservative that actually has read more than just the bible. I know, I know not in your world view. 🙂
Byron,
Seasoned cornmeal, lightly breaded and fried. I usually save the baking for sea fish.
Buddha:
Thanks, I think 🙂
How do you cook the bass? Roll it in corn meal and fry it or bake it?
Byron,
It looks like I touched a nerve! It is unfortunate that you insist on believing unnamed sources that conflict with every classical defintion of the 3 isms that we were discussing. But I understand you are desperate. You do have to stop relying on those “official” Texan history books.
Byron,
This is an argument you cannot win by moving the goal. Face it. You’re busted. You know from previous tussles that evasion doesn’t work as a tactic with many here. People like me (the third to trounce you in your troll days), mespo (the first), the Mikes (Mike S the second), Vince, etc. You should add goneville to that list of people not easily distracted and wearing the logic hat.
Take the word on one who had a better day than anyone here.
I went fishing when a cousin called and said “It’s on!”.
mmmmmmm bass and fries
I’m fuller than a Macy’s Parade Balloon. Happy misery.
And thanks for saying I’m sorta right. That’d make you only sorta insane. 😀
goneville,
For the record, Byron is not intrinsically evil like some of our trolls – not to name names but you’ll figure it out. Oh and we do have a serial reincarnating troll that’s completely and clinically insane – you’ll know it when you see it.
Byron’s just . . . confused at times. Sometimes more than others. But not always.
That and he suffers from “engineer brain”: he often thinks in a form of binary not realizing the world is mostly analog in application.
He’s not immune to logic and proof. Although I will stipulate that he sometimes needs to be bludgeoned about the head and shoulders with it. As you are finding out. It’s a form of propaganda poisoning.
If you think he’s trolling? No. When he first arrived he was and by his own admission. He came in here initially like a jackass on fire. But once he realized that those “liberals [he] wanted to piss off” weren’t exactly what he thought they’d be like, he backed off the trollery after the above mentioned initial encounters, apologized sincerely and honestly and since then (with one short banning for being a bad bad identity stealing poster! still a knucklehead move, B.) he’s became a valued if not frequently contentious contributor.
He’s prone to some basic logical errors at times and simply wrong about a few things – especially in the arena of economics and their relation to government and human behavior – but he is actually capable of changing his mind and he does make some very good points at times that keep things interesting and lively around here. Consider it an exercise in both education and contrast. Even if you don’t convince him you’re right on a given subject but tie him in logical knots, it’s a good education for the readers and he’s generally a good sport about it. He’s a good uke. I’ve chewed on him like a dog gnawing a bone and he’s often thanked me for it. Same with many of the other more ferocious regulars. Unlike some of our true trolls who get sulky and pissy and resort to ad hominem immediately when they cannot win and the one whack job troll who goes nuts and wants to meet and kick people’s asses when it gets beaten (amongst other fine bits of madness).
I will stipulate too though that Byron’s recent fascination with tea baggers and duh – an actual troll – is causing him to backslide a bit in his realization that those individual rights he’s so protective of would not exist at all without liberals like Jefferson.
Some people are more susceptible to propaganda than others. Some of it nabs Byron (like this) and some of it doesn’t (he thought birthers were full of crap pretty much from the start).
So be hard on the ol’ boy. He can take it. It’s good for him and others. But he’s not an inherently bad guy. He’s a good guy with some really bad ideas. Some good ones too. But his bad ones are often whoopers.
duh on the other hand? Well . . . I’ll leave that conclusion for you to inform yourself on through observation.
“Excuse me if I dont share your admiration.”
Who said anything about admiration?
I merely corrected your statement where you claimed the “stimulus” didn’t work in the 30’s. Well I pointed out where it did work to avoid economic meltdown and kept the markets and banks solvent.
And it opened the door for more successful policies like the introduction of FDIC which is why your money is insured. Or would you rather just “wing it” with your retirement savings?
Maybe invest in “Freds Bank” or something?
I think most Americans agree that they are glad to have their money insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and I know of no American, anywhere, looking for a “non federally insured bank” to deposit their money in.
Tea baggers I suppose might. Maybe you know some.
“Byron 1, April 6, 2010 at 9:53 pm
goneville:
lets see Roosevelts and Hoovers depression lasted from about 1931 to 1945 what is that 14/15 years. Yep Roosevelt fixed it all right.”
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Well usually you move the goal posts, but this is the first time you’ve literally snatched one out of my hand.
Which part of my clear and unmistakable statement that “No one claimed it “Fixed the Great Depression” did you not understand?
Did you think when I said it did NOT fix the great depression that I really meant it DID fix the great depression?
Did you think the word NOT = DID?
Or are you now intentionally resorting to misquoting me?
goneville:
lets see Roosevelts and Hoovers depression lasted from about 1931 to 1945 what is that 14/15 years. Yep Roosevelt fixed it all right. Caused almost 15 years of misery and got us into a war. Excuse me if I dont share your admiration.
“Now please enlighten me as to what communism, fascism and socialism are :)”
How?
We’ve shown you the actual definition of the word from half a dozen dictionaries and references.
You just dismiss them and then bury your argument in an endless reposting of some article you found online.
You don’t make any points. You just dismiss the actual definitions and history books which all say Nazism is Fascism by claiming they were written by Marxists.
Please explain how exactly one is supposed to “enlighten” someone who refuses whatever facts are placed in front of him?
“you are entirely incorrect, the depression was extended by Hoover and Roosevelt. This subject has been looked at by many people over the last 70 years and the economists I have read believe this to be true.”
Once again, you are not going to move the goal posts on this one.
You claimed this.
“The stimulus didn’t work in the 30’s and it hasn’t worked now.”
I addressed this above quite clearly and you just skate right over it and move the goal posts further down the road.
So deal with these facts I already presented.
The “stimulus” in the 30’s was known as Emergency Banking Relief Act of 1933, and it did work on several urgent fronts.
1. It stopped the run on the banks.
2. Within 2 weeks half of the countries depositors returned their money to the banks, avoiding total economic meltdown.
3. It paved the way for Glass Steagall which further returned global confidence in US currency and in US depositors as well and which is why your money and my money is now insured courtesy of FDIC.
No one claimed it “Fixed the Great Depression” or “cured everything” as your latest relocation of the goal posts suggests it must have in order to qualify as having worked.
It did work. It worked by saving our country from economic collapse. So your Teabag talking point claim that it “didn’t work” is just that. A Teabag talking point.
Rafflaw:
lets not forget this one:
“During the Hitler years—in order to finance the party’s programs, including the war expenditures—every social group in Germany was mercilessly exploited and drained. White-collar salaries and the earnings of small businessmen were deliberately held down by government controls, freezes, taxes. Big business was bled by taxes and “special contributions” of every kind, and strangled by the bureaucracy . . . . At the same time the income of the farmers was held down, and there was a desperate flight to the cities—where the middle class, especially the small tradesmen, were soon in desperate straits, and where the workers were forced to labor at low wages for increasingly longer hours (up to 60 or more per week).
But the Nazis defended their policies, and the country did not rebel; it accepted the Nazi argument. Selfish individuals may be unhappy, the Nazis said, but what we have established in Germany is the ideal system, socialism. In its Nazi usage this term is not restricted to a theory of economics; it is to be understood in a fundamental sense. “Socialism” for the Nazis denotes the principle of collectivism as such and its corollary, statism—in every field of human action, including but not limited to economics.
“To be a socialist,” says Goebbels, “is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole.”
By this definition, the Nazis practiced what they preached. They practiced it at home and then abroad. No one can claim that they did not sacrifice enough individuals.”
I hope I have given you some things to think about. That quote of Goebbels is especially good.
Now please enlighten me as to what communism, fascism and socialism are 🙂
Rafflaw:
here is additional information for you:
“Through the agency of three new guilds (the Food Estate, the Estate of Trade and Industry, and the Labor Front), the government assumed control of every group of producers and consumers in the country. In accordance with the method of “German socialism,” the facade of a market economy was retained. All prices, wages, and interest rates, however, were “fixed by the central authority. They [were] prices, wages, and interest rates in appearance only; in reality they [were] merely determinations of quantity relations in the government’s orders . . . . This is socialism in the outward guise of capitalism.”
The nation’s businessmen retained the responsibility to produce and suffered the losses attendant on failure. The state determined the purpose and conditions of their production, and reaped the benefits; directly or indirectly, it expropriated all profits. “The time is past,” explained the Nazi Minister of Economics, “when the notion of economic self-seeking and unrestricted use of profits made can be allowed to dominate . . . . The economic system must serve the nation.”
“What a dummkopf I was!” cried steel baron Fritz Thyssen, an early Nazi supporter, who fled the country . . . .
As to Hitler’s pledges to the poorer groups: the Republic’s social insurance budgets were greatly increased, and a variety of welfare funds, programs, agencies, and policies were introduced or expanded, including special provisions for such items as unemployment relief, workmen’s compensation, health insurance, pensions, Winter Help campaigns for the destitute, the Reich Mothers’ Service for indigent mothers and children, and the National Socialist People’s Welfare organization.”
Rafflaw:
how about some additional info, this is pretty good as well:
“[Adolf Hitler on Nazism and socialism:] “Each activity and each need of the individual will thereby be regulated by the party as the representative of the general good. There will be no license, no free space, in which the individual belongs to himself. This is Socialism—not such trifles as the private possession of the means of production. Of what importance is that if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them then own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the party, is supreme over them, regardless whether they are owners or workers. All that, you see, is unessential. Our Socialism goes far deeper . . . .
“[T]he people about us are unaware of what is really happening to them. They gaze fascinated at one or two familiar superficialities, such as possessions and income and rank and other outworn conceptions. As long as these are kept intact, they are quite satisfied. But in the meantime they have entered a new relation; a powerful social force has caught them up. They themselves are changed. What are ownership and income to that? Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.””
The Depression of 29 was started by Taft whom Bush emulated in almost exact detail the substance of his policy. Look for yourself. That was why TRR got back in an formed the Bull Moose Party to effectively defeat Taft since he could not win the Republican nomination. His policy was effective in positioning the US as a world dominate power and went like this, we won’t mess with you in you don’t mess with our neighbors. We still had tender issues with Mexico, Spain and Columbia….
The United States should consider raising taxes to help bring deficits under control and may need to consider a European-style value-added tax, White House adviser Paul Volcker said on Tuesday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6355N520100406