Dr. Jack Cassell, 56, a Mount Dora urologist and a registered Republican, left a message for Obama supporters on his door: heal thyself or at least find a doctor elsewhere.
Cassell posted a sign reading “If you voted for Obama…seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now, not in four years.” Personally, I am not sure I want a proctological exam with a guy who is really pissed off at Democrats and liberals. Hint: when you visit Dr. Cassell bring a copy of Rush Limbaugh on tape, the exam goes much smoother.
Curiously, Cassell insists that telling Obama supporters to “seek urologic care elsewhere” is not denying them care: “I’m not turning anybody away — that would be unethical. But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it.”
This raises an interesting question. It would seem unethical to deny care based on political beliefs but state law only addresses race, religion,
gender, sexual preference or disability. However, as an ethical matter, it would seem rather clear but I am but a juris doctor.
To further his unique combination of politics and proctology, Cassell supplies copies of a health-care timeline produced by Republicans and added a sign that reads “This is what the morons in Washington have done to your health care. Take one, read it and vote out anyone who voted for it.”
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“many of whom are carrying racist signs and shouting racial slurs?”
You’re nothing but a low-life effin liar, Gerty. You have about as much integrity as a jelly bean, and only half the common sense.
You’re too stupid to realize that they’re protesting against a black President, because he is the only President in office. But you, you racist bastard, see him first as black, and then as President.
“Its the company we keep.” Do I need to point out the company Obama has kept? Funny how you, oh so conveniently, forget that. Huh?
Mespo,
I don’t think you’re gullible to buy what you’re trying to sell.
Giving people a tax cut, while driving the country further into debt may fool some of the people some of the time, but it doesn’t fool everybody.
The message from the Tea Partiers is pretty clear. That is “STOP SPENDING MONEY WE DON’T HAVE”.
Poor people spend money on candy for the kids instead of paying their mortgage. I don’t expect the federal government to do the same, and I’m not going to hold it against the citizens of this country who would rather have the mortgage get paid that get a piece of candy.
You want people to be happy because they got another $100 bucks in their pocket this year? It’s money that they earned, but surrendered to their government in order for it to operate. They expect their government to operate within its means.
You said “Also they have no idea that the government stands to make money on its sale of bailed out bank stocks given the rise in the market.”
Key word: “stands to make money”. Show me the money. I’m tired of being told that “the check’s in the mail”. When you can tell me that we have recouped all the money spent on the bailout, I’ll see it as more than an empty promise.
I want you to take a look at everything you find to be so great about the new healthcare law, and tell me what the long term effect of it is going to be. Tell me how it’s going to reduce my reduce my premiums, while adding more services. Tell me how it’s going to create more physicians to see me. How did it create an incentive for more people to become physicians.
By the way Duh, you’ve yet to respond to your comment I challenged you on.
You stated; “I’m pretty sure the guy holding the sign stating “This sign is the brownest thing on the block” was likely racist, but his sign wasn’t.”.
Clearly you’re trying to downplay the sign so as not to add it to the ever growing list of signs provided you in response to your challenge to produce examples of some. But you painted yourself into another corner. You state the sign wasn’t racist but the guy was. Really?
What was it about the guy that made you think that? I examined the photo. He’s wearing nothing that I can see other than a “Listen to Bob Marley” T-Shirt. Bob Marley was a outspoken opponent of white oppression of blacks. So that’s not a clue.
His hair is clean shaving but certainly no skinhead job. So that’s not a clue.
He’s riding a bicycle but that’s never been associated with racists so that’s not a clue.
So never mind the obvious racist nature of the sign. I mean come on, a sign that says the only people on the street protesting the black president are white and that’s not racist? Its a prime example of racist comment if there ever was such a thing. All the people here are White. That is the very definition of “white power”.
But never mind that. We can come back to it. What was it about the photo, OTHER than the obvious sign he was carrying that told you the guy was a racist?
I can’t wait to hear this latest tune.
Absolutely you will. You stand along side racists chanting in unison with them then you bet you’re going to be associated with them. What sort of individual would protest a black President alongside nothing but white people many of whom are carrying racist signs and shouting racial slurs?
Its the company we keep.
You bet people will associate them and rightfully so. They may be ignorant and I’ll always accept that as an excuse from a tea bagger as ignorance is their core value. But to stand alongside a bunch of racists waving racist signs and shouting racial slurs is to be yourself a racist, or at least an enabler and comrade of the racists.
Byron,
Are you starting to understand the logic? If you were to attend a peaceful demonstration, planned for a certain and location, against the policies of the current Administration, and a handful of people who show up at the event represent ideals that you don’t agree with, you’re supposed to (A) Leave the event or (B) Attempt to limit their free speech rights. If you don’t, by default you will be associated with the ideals of the few.
Bottom line on your typical tea bagger isn’t racism but stupidity. Most have no idea that, at their income levels, all got a tax cut and not a tax increase. Also they have no idea that the government stands to make money on its sale of bailed out bank stocks given the rise in the market. The most laughable part of the movement is the claim that we have sunken into tyranny by having a duly elected President introduced a much needed healthcare reform bill which garner a majority of votes for passage in both houses of Congress and was, in fact, signed into law. If that’s tyranny, here’s notice to dictators world-wide that their job just got a lot tougher. Why paint your good ol’ boy tea bagger as racist, when fool will do–nicely.
“The only problem is that those represent a very small minority of the people that attend these things.”
No, that’s not the problem. The problem is what I said it was last night. If all these white people were not racists, they would not stand side by side with racists.
That’s the reality of it that’s staring us all in the face. No one wants to say it but its true. When a bunch of angry white people go out in unison to protest a black president along side of racists carrying racist signs and slogans then they are racists.
GONEVILLE:
The only problem is that those represent a very small minority of the people that attend these things. to paint all Tea Partiers as racist is the same as me saying that since you and your parents came from Germany you must want to kill Jews (even if you are Jews). And how do you know Duh is not black? I think he mentioned he was from St. Louis and St. Louis has a large African American population. He did mention he was part Italian but what is the other part?
I was out to dinner about 2 weeks ago with my wife and was strolling along when 2 black kids about 18 walked by and one said to the other “hurry up ni&&$#”, I was a bit shocked and apparently it showed as he apologized to me for saying that to his friend. I think we are long past the time when using this word as a sign of “affection” or “solidarity” or whatever the reason black people give for its use.
I don’t paint all democrats as people who would lynch blacks or unfairly deal with them by way of segregation or Jim Crow Laws or of being Klan members and burning crosses on black people’s lawns. Although a good many did just that in the not so distant past, heck one Klan member is a senator from West Virginia. Why do you think he keeps getting re-elected?
And by the way most Germans in the United States prior to WWII were big supporters of Hitler. And Joe Kennedy, a democrat, was a Nazi apologist even as he was Ambassador to the Court of St. James. And also many members of Franklin Roosevelt’s cabinet and advisors were big supporters of Joe Stalin’s Russia but that doesn’t make all democrats communists or socialists. And neither do a few signs that are racist at a Tea Party make all Tea Partiers racists.
So by your logic all democrats are communist or socialist thugs who like to lynch blacks and keep them segregated and impoverished. And by the way wasn’t Bull Conner a democrat as well?
“I’m pretty sure the guy holding the sign stating “This sign is the brownest thing on the block” was likely racist, but his sign wasn’t. You gotta respect a guy who looks like he is in his twenties, but still rides his bicycle”
Well no, we don’t “gotta respect” any racists. You probably “gotta” given that’s how your party rolls, but no. We don’t gotta.
As for his sign being racist, what about him told you he was a racist?
I’ll be waiting for that song and dance to begin, shortly.
Now, as to the comments about Hitler and Mao, I never said anything about the Hitler or Mao images being racist. I specifically detailed several the examples that were racist. Many more than three. I will repeat them since they are being misrepresented as being the ones of Hitler and also since they are being misrepresented as “two or three”
1. Watermelons on the White House.
2. A photo of all the US Presidents showing President Obama’s eyes only.
3. 18th and 19th century racist drawings of the President and first family.
4. The constant references to him as “The Kenyan”
5. The constant references to him as the “AFRICAN”.
6. Referring to his policies as “White Slavery”.
7. A poster of the President being hung by someone wearing the hood of the Klu Klux Klan.
So we see it wasn’t “one or two” and we also see that again that the Hitler Mao references were not included.
And one more since you mentioned it, the Monkey. Please explain how it is you grew up to be whatever age you are to not know that associating black people with Monkey’s was racist. Explain how you could be ignorant of the long standing history of monkey and gorilla comparisons, to black people. It was in print. It was used by the Nazis (they even did studies comparing the “Negro” to apes). It’s been a long standing racist slur since the days of the slave trade. So please explain how you could grow up and be ignorant of that fact.
The fact is we have produced numerous examples of racist slurs in open public being used by the Teabaggers and you’ve yet to address any of them other than to arbitrarily dismiss the Monkey reference because someone made a monkey reference to Bush too. Pretending to be ignorant of the racist connotations of comparing monkeys to black people is the sign of a really ignorant man, or a racist. Or perhaps both, since the one precedes the other.
If I call a white man a ni%%er, it doesn’t mean anything.
If I call a black man one, well, I will likely be eating my food through a straw for a few months. And the same goes for a monkey reference. Calling a white man a monkey doesn’t really mean anything other than calling him stupid. But calling a black man a monkey has a long standing racist meaning that is well known to the entire planet. If you want to pretend you don’t know the difference then I can only suggest you try walking up to some black people and telling them that calling them monkeys is not racist. I think they will be glad to explain it to you better than I obviously can.
Byron,
In my post at 3:42 PM I stated “I counted about 38 images in that video. Of those 38, I found about 2 or 3 that I would consider to be racist.”
Since Bush had been portrayed as a monkey when he was in office, I can’t attribute racism to Obama being portrayed in the same way. That would be racist of me.
I’m pretty sure the guy holding the sign stating “This sign is the brownest thing on the block” was likely racist, but his sign wasn’t. You gotta respect a guy who looks like he is in his twenties, but still rides his bicycle. 🙂
As for calling me a racist. I love it. Nothing I have done fits rafflaws definition (which makes it that much better).
If they would have claimed that a handful of people attending the tea parties exhibited a racist mentality, I would have agreed with that, but when they paint with a broad brush, they leave me no choice but to demonstrate their ignorance.
Duh:
I do think some of the signs posted were racist. Although I have seen many others that speak to the founders and deficit spending. I imagine some people are upset about having a black president, Robert Byrd among them. And the fact still remains that it was the democratic south that was responsible for 95% of racism in this country. As someone above said “facts are pesky little things”.
But I don’t think equating Obama to Mao, Stalin or Hitler is racist. How could it be racist? It is a political statement about his policies. For god’s sake they had government run health care in Russia under Stalin and Germany under Hitler, although Hitler did not implement national health care. Some in his {Obama] cabinet think Mao was a great guy and others think Marx was a great man. So I personally see nothing wrong with that type of political sign. Hitler was after all a socialist by his own admission.
As Thomas Sowell said “you know you are winning an argument with a liberal when they call you a racist”. I wonder if those here would consider Dr. Sowell a racist? He is after all one of, if not the, top conservative intellectual in America today so it would be a good bet they would.
@PatricParamedic:
Thank you.
The healthcare bill may not be perfect but I’m thinking it is easier to get a bill changed than passed. It was a long time coming and a long time needed.
To watch the disparity in healthcare salaries and working conditions over the past 10 years of the bedside caregivers vrs. the MD’s and hospital management is telling. It is illustrative of the trade from quality of care to profit…and IMHO much of the pinch the MD’s are feeling now is due to their blythely giving up real management of their practices and remuneration to the Insurance jackals 15 yrs (or so) ago.
Thanks for again proving my point that you make challenges, then ignore the responses and just keep making new challenges.
Sorry, but I won’t even address your latest diversion until you address, and I mean address not casually dismiss with a flick of your hand, but address the responses given.
You asked for examples of racism by the Tea Partiers. We gave you numerous examples that you have yet to address. Nor have you addressed my question for clarification of your answer on the question of why calling the President the “Kenyan” is derogatory.
Your answer was it was derogatory because they knew it would make people “like me” angry. And I agree with you. That is obviously why they do it. But the question remaining is why they would know that term would be offensive?
Answer that question posed to you an hour ago, along with addressing the responses to your previous challenge to produce evidence of racism at tea bag rallies, and I’ll “consider” responding to your latest challenge.
Do you think Obama shares secrets with his wife?
An interesting video has been released.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk3OMRqO7aY&hl=en_US&fs=1&]
That should keep the birther fire burning. 🙂
Now can the Tea Partiers call him a Kenyan? 🙂
Hmmm, not sure who this gerty is you’re claiming I am but the fact that I didn’t notice Rafflaw had posted the video I posted? An oversight means I’m someone else? Ok. Well fine. Then call me whoever you like but it won’t change the facts you omitted.
Perhaps the reason I didn’t notice Rafflaw had posted that video earlier is because you failed to acknowledge it. You just skated right over it never acknowledging all the foul, ugly racist signs and images from the video. Like you’re trying to do again apparently.
You asked for links or images of the signs. We gave them to you. And then some. And you’ve yet to acknowledge any of them other than to state that you “consider” the word niggar to be racist. Gee, what an admission. Ghandi himself couldn’t have said it better.
However aside from that one racist sounding admission you’ve yet to address any of the overwhelming evidence presented to you. You just keep moving the goal posts further down the field. You make challenges, then run off or change the subject when your challenge is met. You never acknowledged any of it.
1. Watermelons on the White House.
2. A photo of all the US Presidents showing President Obama’s eyes only.
3. 18th and 19th century racist drawings of the President and first family.
4. The constant references to him as “The Kenyan”
5. The constant references to him as the “AFRICAN”.
6. Referring to his policies as “White Slavery”.
7. A poster of the President being hung by someone wearing the hood of the Klu Klux Klan.
And much more. You never addressed any of this. What you did do was toss out a never ending barrage of challenges to others without ever bothering to address the responses.
When you can confront the facts you requested, you let me know.
If anybody was still wondering whether or not goneville is truly Gerty, the video posted above should put an end to it. Why? Because it’s the same video that bdaman and rafflaw posted earlier. It’s the same video we just spent the better part of an afternoon discussing.
Short-term memory loss must be an associated effect of the disorder. 🙂
Thank you Rafflaw, I tried but I’m afraid Duh has an agenda and that agenda does not include acknowledging the facts when they are given to him. He asked for a racist sign from the Tea Party rallies and we provided him with several examples easily found on Google. But rather than admit to them he simply skips on to his next stupid challenge. He never actually addresses any of the information you provide him with after requesting it.
Nor does he answer questions and when he does and realizes he painted himself into a corner by doing so, he runs off never bothering to address his own answer.
This strategy of course makes us continually respond to his challenges without his ever having to address one any of his statements.
Anyway here’s one more YouTube collection of examples of racist signs and slogans at Tea Party rallies. In here you’ll see several in addition to the one calling him a “Ni%%er” or showing Watermelons on the White House lawn (and lets not forget the one showing the US Presidents with Obama’s face “blacked out”) , one calling his plan “White Slavery”, some early American slave type drawings, confederate flags, calling him a Monkey, comparing him to a Monkey, showing his lips ridiculously inflated, a Muslim, a Black Muslim, an “African”, one with a sign stating the sign is the “Brownest thing on the block” (openly admitting the Protesters were predominately White), one showing him as a ridiculously looking Mr T with a Mr T mohawk and black jewelry, and of course theres one showing him being hung by a man wearing a KKK hood.
The video speaks for itself. Which is more than I can say for Duh.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S38VioxnBaI&hl=en_US&fs=1&]
Goneville and rcampbell,
I wish I had more time to spend on this thread today, but my honey-do list isn’t complete yet. You guys did yeoman work in highlighting the refusal of Duh, et al to admit the racism that abounds in the tea party groups. I do want to add one thing to what Athena stated above. She called the Tea Party groups a true grass roots movement ( I am paraphrasing). Does the name Dick Armey and Freedom Works ring a bell? Dick Armey is a former Republican congressional leader and now a registered lobbyist working for Freedom Works. FreedomWorks claims that they have funded and organized hundreds of Tea Party protests. http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/13/corporate-lobyists-raising-money-for-tea-parties/ Athena, do you want to reconsider your comment about the tea party groups being a true grass roots movement?? Time to get ready for the Final Four. Happy Easter to All.
“Duh 1, April 3, 2010 at 4:30 pm
They called him Kenyan because they knew it would bug the crap out of people like you. For that, I thank them.
Now go away, Gerty. Yes. You’ve been called out. I suspected it from your first post, but it took time to verify it. (I have connections) :)”
I’m not sure what “gerty means” nor what “connections” means but either way it just is another diversion.Now, lets address your response. You claim they did it because “they knew it would bug the crap out of people like you”. A fact I would not necessarily dispute. The question remaining however is obvious. Why? Why would it bother them? Why would calling him a “KENYAN”, be considered derogatory?
I’ll be awaiting for your next brushstroke as you continue to paint yourself into a corner.
“Duh 1, April 3, 2010 at 4:26 pm
So there we have it, goneville. One person was allegedly arrested, but you can’t name that person. And contrary to your previous claim of “They were” followed by chastizing me for not knowing the facts, that person was not prosecuted.”
So there we have it is right. I never said they were prosecuted.
That makes lie number what of yours? 10? 20?
As for the mans name if you’d clean the dirt off your monitor and try reading again, you’ll see the congressmen chose not to press charges so obviously the police released him. Hence they would not release his name if he were not going to be prosecuted.
Now, any other stupid diversions or are you now going to answer MY question?
Of what POSSIBLE significance could President Obama’s FATHERS place of birth, have to do with the debate on health care?