Power Play: Arizona Utility Commissioner Threatens To Cut Off Power to Los Angeles If City Boycotts State

Arizona Corporation Commission member Gary Pierce has threatened that the state may cut off power to Los Angeles if that city goes forward with a boycott of his state over its controversial immigration law. The city gets 25 percent of its power from Arizona.

In his letter, Pierce stated:

If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation.

I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.

Here is the full letter to the Mayor: Letter to LA

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59 thoughts on “Power Play: Arizona Utility Commissioner Threatens To Cut Off Power to Los Angeles If City Boycotts State”

  1. “If we would teach Democrats any virtue then we might have some standing in believing we could teach it to foreigners. Democrats don’t even know what virtue is such that they could teach it to others”.

    When racism and bigotry are virtues, Democrats will have something to learn from conservatives. When our democracy is dead at the hands of Tootie and those who don’t understand or appreciate it, we’ll have been taught all about conservatives’ values.

    Conservatives have nothing to teach Americans. We’ve already learned we’ve been duped by conservativism for thirty years. We now know it is an utter failure. Conservativism is the reason the banking/mortgage/Wall Street industries were permitted to run our economy into the ditch and to cause the resultant worldwide recession and unemployment. It’s also at the root of the BP oil leak disaster, the trillions wasted on war, and now polarized immigration. Everything conservative “virtues” touch in diminished. I hope I never learn conservatives’ “virtues”.

  2. I think the AZ law is terribly misguided. It is the wrong answer to a awfully misunderstood problem. HOWEVER, this idea to boycott AZ services and goods is equally as misguided. Where is the boycott of Mexico’s goods who have a far worse immigration policy than our own? And what about China? And include any number of countries that treats thier undocumented immigrants far worse than we do. Where is the city-wide boycott of them?

    And in reading his letter, this whole thing on his part sounds a little tounge-in-cheek pointing out that it is unreasonable for LA to boycott things producted in AZ… while they may own part of the power plant, the bottom line is that the plant is located in AZ – meaning revenue for AZ. It sounds like a poor attempt at simply saying, becareful of what you ask for… I’ve already read some stories about local cities exploring this idea and presenting along with it exemptions for thier own favorite AZ businesses, etc. This whole boycott things is stupid.

    Again, the AZ law is terrible. I think it should be challenged through the appropriate channels and LEO’s feet should be held blazingly to the white-hot fire of scrutinity by civil rights watchdogs in every single instance of it being used. But passing a city law/ordinance/requirement/mission statement/whatever the hell you want to call it – is a TERRIBLY waste of local governments resources and counter-productive.

  3. I was a start-up thanks to my Dad, a once-removed immigrant from Scotland and my Mom, a direct descendant of a “Revolutionary Soldier”, C.O.W. (Comrade of Washington, who was also an immigrant from Scotland).

    Thank god for the immigrants … keep ’em coming!

  4. I read the letter. How is that a threat to cut off power? The author specifically states he will encourage renegotiation. I see nothing about superior ownership rights. If, Los Angeles has the courage of its convictions and renegotiates the agreements, I don’t think luck will matter in the courts.

  5. It is of note that ownership in toto by California equates to only slightly less than Arizona based public ownership (29.1% versus 27.4% (SCE, SCPPA and LADWP)).

    If Peirce wants to play nasty and assert superior rights to other owners? Good luck with that in court too.

  6. “Palo Verde Power Plant, is a nuclear power plant located in Wintersburg, Arizona[2], about 45 miles (80 km) west of central Phoenix, and is currently the largest nuclear generation facility in the United States, averaging over 3.2 gigawatts (GW) of electrical power production in 2003 to serve approximately 4 million people. Arizona Public Service (APS) owns the largest portion (29.1%) of the station and operates the facility. Other owners include Salt River Project (17.5%), El Paso Electric Co. (15.8%), Southern California Edison (15.8%), PNM Resources (10.2%), Southern California Public Power Authority (5.9%), and the Los Angeles Dept. of Water & Power (5.7%).” From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Verde_Nuclear_Generating_Station

    Salt River Project was a (non-legal) client of mine ten years ago. If the same people run it now, they aren’t going to be real happy with Pierce either. Same goes for PNM Resources. So it’s not just going to be California on him, but his own people and New Mexico as well. As long as Perry is Governor of Texas, I doubt El Paso Electric is going to say “boo”.

  7. Did I mention that anti-intellectualism is a hallmark of fascism?

  8. Tootie,
    (briefly cause I gotta run

    you said “Woots: It is INSANE to import people just to tell them a philosophical lesson about government. That is NOT the purpose of being a country, a people, a civilization.

    And there is nothing in Constitution that would remotely make this a purpose of immigration.”

    I was responding to your post and was not careful in my response. I did not mean to give the impression that we purposely import people for any reason. My point has to do with how they are treated once they get here…and also how we treat our ‘own’ people that are already here, you know, citizens. People still want to come to the US. In droves.

    sorry to inadvertantly mislead, more later…

  9. Toots:

    Hardly joking. The fool was just about foaming at the mouth on FAUXNewz. Pierce is as serious as cancer, no doubt about it.

  10. Tootie:

    Buddha mentioned it but I think you are wrong on the immigration thing. The Indians and Chinese and Koreans and Vietnamese have a very good record of success in our country. They are extremely hard working and a good number are very successful.

    A good many Hispanics are successful as well. They start working for cheap but some move on to start companies and employ people. But then when I first entered the American wok force I made 90 cents an hour, so you could say that young kids are cheap labor as well. You have to start somewhere.

    Although I will agree that they ought to learn English, it makes it easier for them to become successful. As far as customs and cultures, when did your ancestors first come here? Half of mine came in 1700’s and the other half came in the mid to late 1800’s am I more American than you if your ancestors came here in say 1920? That is tribal thinking at it’s worst. And ancestor worship as well. Your ancestors don’t really have anything to do with how well you do in life.

    I am always amazed by people who do genealogy to try and prove that someone in their family was worth a shit. They are like people who breed dogs and worry about the pedigree of the dog but are typically fat, ugly and stupid. At least that has been my experience with the dog breeders I have bought dogs from.

    Does it matter when your ancestors came here? Or who they are? Anyone who loves freedom and wants an opportunity to prosper is an American.

    And by the way I have a friend from a South American country that came here a Marxist and is now well on his way to being a capitalist or at least a reformed socialist.

  11. Bdaman:

    “Mohamed Ali”?

    Does he float like a lepidoptra and sting like an hymenoptera?

  12. Tootie,

    Do you realize yet that 1) I am younger than you and 2) I’m not a partisan?

    You don’t like it that you got into bed politically with the bad guys? That’d be your problem. Should looked before you took that racist leap, genius.

    You bad mouth me (and “leftists”) all you want. You’re a propaganda regurgitating machine so your opinions about me or either end of the political spectrum carry zero weight.

    The facts are on my side.

    And universities? Your continual raving against education shows your ignorance on top of your thinly veiled perpetually racist nonsense. A bias against education, which is what you display on a regular basis – a preference for propaganda over actually learning, is like wearing a shirt that says, “I’m with Stupid” and the finger on the hand is pointing at your own head. What you should be ashamed of (assuming a Neocon propaganda troll is capable of shame) is admitting that you’re so arrogant in your ignorance that you cannot learn from an instructor from this country let alone a foreign country. So you try to demonize all of higher education. Uh huh. Methinks the troll doth protest too much.

    How about the abuses by industry of the H-B1 visa program? As a percentage, industry employs far more H-B1 workers than universities if for no other reason industry in toto employs far more people than universities.

    How about Google and YouTube were started in part by immigrants from Russia and Korea? That Citibank, Berkshire-Hathaway and Pepsico all have immigrants in upper management? Hm?

    You want to keep talent out of our markets based on where it comes from apparently. America is supposed to be a beacon for the best and brightest. But not if they’re one of them “furerners”, eh? Anyone who knows your history of posts would not be surprised at this bit of shortsighted bigotry. It’s the same kind you display in supporting Arizona’s “Stop ‘Em If They’re Brown” law.

    If you’re going to keep acting ignorant? Please own your own ignorance instead of demonizing those who have worked hard to make sure they are smarter than you by the merits of having an education . . . which you clearly lack. In history, law, economics and sociology you are consistent. Consistently bigoted, but consistently wrong as well. “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson.

    You want all the immigrants out? Well unless you’re an American Indian, you better start packing your bags too, sport. Because that’d be consistent with your wanting LEGAL immigrants kept out of this country under the H-B1 program in addition to the illegals. But you go on being consistently wrong and visibly a biased partisan hack. It gives us plenty to shoot at like skeet.

  13. Woots: It is INSANE to import people just to tell them a philosophical lesson about government. That is NOT the purpose of being a country, a people, a civilization.

    And there is nothing in Constitution that would remotely make this a purpose of immigration.

    If we would teach Democrats any virtue then we might have some standing in believing we could teach it to foreigners. Democrats don’t even know what virtue is such that they could teach it to others.

    If foreigners want to learn about virtue and liberty they can pick up a damn book, read about it, and teach it to their OWN people. The thing is democrats are importing people who don’t like books and likely won’t before the civilization is completely ruined.

    These people don’t come here to learn, they come here to make America the dung heaps they flee from. If they came here to be like you, they would have shown evidence of it already.

    That hasn’t happened.

  14. Buddha: You are under the mistaken notion that democrats are not business men and women. You must be an old timer.

    Just off the top of my head (clean and shampooed) I can think of the a handful leftist gazillionaires: Bill Gates, Peter Lewis, Teresa Heinz Kerry, George Soros, Warren Buffet. Gates sat before congress and LIED about the need for foreign workers and democrats gobbled it up. Then there is Google, Hollywood, the universities, and all the other left-wing industries.

    You do realize that leftist colleges and universities begged the government for unlimited visas to fill up their faculty? Yes, I’m sure you do realize this because you are so smart and everyone knows it.

    This leftist treachery stabs American scholars in the back and makes getting a good education (which the Obama admin is promoting for minorities) IRRELEVANT. Why get a good education if government is going to give your job to a foreigner?

    To imply that democrats don’t want cheap labor is to expose your ignorance.

    Virtually all of the filthy rich fat cats mentioned above advocate the influx of foreigners which cut our wages and destroy our culture. Please inform yourself, if democrats wanted to stop destroying our jobs they would stop destroying our jobs.

    Filthy rich democrats spent a billion dollars electing a rich, pampered, elitist lawyer to the presidency who did just about nothing all his life to prepare for it. They love big money! And that rich fat cat wants the cheap uneducated peasants (or as former Yew of Singapore called them in his interview with Charlie Rose: “Fruit Pickers”).

    Obama and the dems need the “fruit pickers” to retain power for the democratic party by bribing them for votes with welfare handouts. That’s another word for treason. As LEAST the republican businessman just wants a quick buck. The democrat businessman wants genocide.

    Both parties are guilty of the genocide via immigration, but the only resistance to it at this time is from the republican RANK AND FILE and from Tea Party members.

    “CHARLIE ROSE: And immigration has been America’s strength?

    LEE KUAN YEW: Absolutely. But mind you, immigration of the highly intelligent and highly-hard working, very hard working people. If you get immigration of the fruit pickers, you may not get very far.”


    We are a nation of immigrants all right, but the success everyone is pointing to is a nation of immigrants who had the same background and ethnic origins of those already here.

    We (democrats) are destroying our country with ignorant foreign hostiles who are here for plunder and conquering.


  15. I assume there is a contract between the Power company and the City of Los Angeles. Is Pierce in the position where he can abrogate the contract whenever he feels like it.

  16. “Best way to overthrow America right now is to import tens and tens of millions of disloyal, ignorant, uneducated, ungrateful, arrogant, barbaric, and poorly assimilating foreign hostiles from nearby lands who do not have America’s best interests (like accepting immigration laws) in mind or heart.”

    ….and show them that what they were told by their fascist extremist anti-populace governments that use them like fodder is not true. That we are a free Nation that does NOT exploit the poverty stricken in favour of the ever gluttonous machine, that we do NOT throw out our elderly after stripping them of everything they have worked for, that we do NOT support, condone or use torture to sate our fear driven social and economic stratis, that we do NOT use terror tactics, pre-emptive garbage, sneaky manipulations and etc., that we ARE, in short, the Country that we fought to be all along….

  17. vlf2112 I was gonna put that but if it ever happened it could be taken as a confession to the crime 🙂

  18. Toots,

    Pierce can threaten until the cows come home – the fact of the matter is that CA owns a stake in many of the power plants Pierce is threatening to cut it off from. He is also oblivious to the fact that if CA were to go elsewhere, he’s only shooting his own state in its figurative foot. Pierce doesn’t get that 2+2 doesn’t = 5.

    It’s really isn’t a difficult concept to comprender. Really, it isn’t.


    “I shot the sheriff”

    As long as it was Arpaio 🙂

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