The third day of the Senate trial for United States District Court Judge Thomas Porteous starts today. The witnesses include a former judge and former prosecutor. We are likely to start our case on Wednesday . . .
Much of this testimony will center on Article III of the impeachment. I have attached our motions to dismiss Article Three and our general summary if you are following the case.
Porteous – Motion to Dismiss Article III
Porteous Pre-Trial Statement
Porteous Pre-Trial Statement – Exhibits
That is true. But he’s not trying himself. As others have pointed out, he’s not being tried by the most sterling of characters as far as money for favors go. Under our current system a large campaign contribution is roughly equivalent to a graft retainer.
This is exactly why they are supposed to be lifetime appointments with a damn good salary….to avoid politics….
Like a Judge has never been reversed….
(nudges AY) pst! corporate funded political hit. *cough* *cough*
I may think that guy is a pompous ass and any other adjective or pro noun that I can think of (such as hooker) but if they have nothing new since his admittance into the Federal Court then what is really going on with this matter, what am I missing? What is interesting is he could lose his license and still sit on the Federal Bench….I am trying to figure out why this is really going on?
Judge Thomas Porteous accused of bankruptcy fraud during impeachment hearing
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2009/12/judge_thomas_porteous_accused.html
From 2009 .
Another option: allow votes by notarized proxy.
Allows the vote.
Verifies identity.
Creates a paper trail.
Gets the vote in a timely manner while allowing the Senator to carry on other necessary duties.
And you can’t even tell me there aren’t a dozen notaries present within arms reach in the halls of Congress at any given time.
AY,
I agree that *most* votes must be required on the floor at the congresspersons’ desks. However, there should be exceptions as when a person’s career, reputation, and standing in life lie in the balance—as in Porteous’ case. Any such person deserves the full respect and attention from the people who will be making the next decision to forward this case to the full Senate for their consideration of impeachment.
In such cases—and any allowable exceptions would be clearly identified, voted on, and codified in the Senate/House rules books–congresspersons could vote from their laptops when it was the *only reasonable means* of voting. If I were a congressperson, I would not want to miss votes for my constituents and those regarding very important issues.
Therefore, this would provide the option to vote remotely and I would not have on my conscience the potential ruin of any person’s life because I was preoccupied with archaic Senate/House rules and did not listen to or fully consider the complete facts against him or in his favor within a *fair and unencumbered* hearing.
I don’t profess to know all of the answers, but one thing you need for a 13 is a continuous positive stream of income…the trustee in most jurisdictions can cram down the rest and even alter the terms of a vehicle note. But then again you can reaffirm whatever debt you want outside of the Bankruptcy…..
One time I had a sears creditor show up at a hearing and offer my client not only a new line of credit but a reduction on the amount owed if they would reaffirm the debt…this was after sears got into some trouble with the Bankruptcy court and got hit with one hell of a sanction….
Got to go with Frank again. This guy plays “well above his age”. Good show.
ay:
His problem also was that he had both secured and unsecured debt.
Great cross examination of the witness who prepared the bankruptcy petition. This young lawyer is very talented and a real asset to the Judge’s defense team. He is impressive. He was well prepared, had his questions ready and responded well based on the answer given. Judge Porteous is very fortunate to have this team of lawyers defend him in this very difficult defense. He has the maturation of a seasoned experienced trial lawyer well beyond his chronological age. Kudos to the young barrister.
AY:
The only reason I say that is I had a relative that went through that chapter 13 since he was not a buisiness,and as the conversation is going now at the hearing,by the time he got his plan it was so high that he had to liquidate with the chapter7.
eniobob,
Title 11 is the gateway for any chapter of Bankruptcy 7, 11, 12 or a 13. Generally a 13 can be converted to a 7 but a Trustee can convert any 7 to a 13 if sufficient assets exist to pay creditors.
Chapter 13 is the gateway for chapter 7.
FF LEO et al,
Before the electronic vote tabulation, they were paper votes, which were then posted on the wall, as to the count/number etc. Then the electronic voting came, I was working for the house at the time. The issue became about other folks voting, for others. This caused a heck of a fight on the floor because someone voted for a member that was not on the floor and the vote was clearly against his conscience….then a rule was passed that only members may vote at the seat and desk that they are assigned and they have to be present to vote…..one session…a member had had a heart attack and was brought by the hospital by ambulance on a stretcher to vote and this was in the 80’s. So, with that said, I think that they would even be suspicions of anything with a remote as some would never show up on the floor…..
But you do bring up an interesting point sir.
FFLEO,
From your lips to Congress ears!
Although I am on the government’s “side” in this Senate trial, the senators’ actions demonstrate one of the many reasons why our country is declining.
Surely, there must be a means whereby congresspersons can *remotely vote electronically*–or if not, the rules/procedures for voting should be changed so they do not have to “run” to different places to vote.
I am in the boondocks, I have electronically spent thousands of dollars electronically at once using the single tap of a key, and everything was encrypted. Votes could be easily encrypted and each congressperson would have their own secure password to vote. This is twenty-ten, after all.
Former Federal LEO
1, September 15, 2010 at 2:40 pm
” Very strange recall facility in that man’s head. As a result I would refuse to give much weight to any of his testimony.”
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Blouise, to whom are you referring?
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I’m sorry FFLEO for not being clearer … the FBI guy testifying about the bankruptcy
Once again, defense council is on a tight time leash but the chair and other senators break the trial for their personal/senatorial obligations. Is Judge Porteous receiving their full undistracted attention? If this wasn’t so serious it would be funny and if it wasn’t so funny, it would be serious. I find this procedure very unsettling.
TO RESUME AT 3:OO P.M. EDT.