While the world is reacting to leaks indicating that Saudi Arabia is funding Al Qaeda and Clinton ordered diplomats to engage in espionage, Sens. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) have called for the prosecution of those responsible for the leaks.
The leaks also show the Saudis pressuring the United States to attack Iran — once again having the United States do the dirty work for regional interests. Then there is the revelation that Iran smuggled weapons in ambulances to Hezbollah.
Graham insists that the matter is clear “we’re at war . . . If you can prosecute them, let’s try.” McCaskill agreed, stressing “I hope we can find out where this is coming from and go after them with the force of law.”
As with the disclosures of the torture program, some of these disclosures are likely not new information for Senators. Members of the intelligence committees have often been criticized for knowledge of abuses or even crimes in our government without making them public or taking significant action. Thus far, there has not been a single suggestion of public hearings on these allegations — only a demand to prosecute the person responsible for making them public. The problem is that some of this information shows that the public has been given false or misleading information on major policies. I guess this is an example of what Senator Rockefeller said was the harm of media coverage denying the public of its sense of happiness and contentment in their government.
I am a firm believer in the need to maintain secrecy in areas of national security, but some of these leaks raise (again) a growing lack of confidence in Congress in serving as a true check and balance on abuses.
There is nothing about the tea party in my comment so it’s interesting that you use misdirection to respond to it instead of the actual content. It must be that the actual content may not be refuted directly, so only misdirection and personal attacks will be used. Here again, is what I actually said:
This would be funny if it weren’t so disgusting. From the AP,
“Attorney General Eric Holder said the government was mounting a criminal investigation,…”This is not saber-rattling,” Holder said. Anyone found to have broken American law “will be held responsible.”
Definitely the work of partisan Republicans there! Yep, Obama’s DOJ is all over wrong doing. They recently arrested Bush for admitting to waterboarding, then they went after the banksters for criminal fraud, even the ones Obama appointed to run the economy. They have also decided to prosecute themselves for war crimes involving the use of drones and commission of torture. Bea-cons of justice, that Obama administration!
This is a comment which concerns the lack of rule of law under Obama. This lack of rule of law has no bearing on the tea party. It is the hypocrisy of the Obama administration at work. It is dangerous for citizens to be in denial about their own govt. because each citizen who refuses to deal with the reality of the govt. will be complicit in the harm that administration visits on society.
anon nurse: I agree.
Swarthmore mom, My last comment was not a response to yours, but rather Bdaman’s…
I agree, by the way, about Erik Erikson, and the tea-party crew — I’m not ready for them either. I’m just disappointed by some of the decisions, especially given what I’m seeing…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/30/oreilly-wikileaks-leakers-executed_n_789654.html Bill O’Reilly says wikileakers should be executed.
Another beautiful day in America…
Jill: I don’t think you will find anyone here saying Obama is all that great, but I am still not ready for Erik Erikson or your tea party.
Yeah GG
Don’t you know Buddha is right and everyone else is wrong, all the time.
You better get with it pal and accept that reality.
Hail to Buddha the all knowing
Thanks for that, Jill.
Yep, we punish those who tell the truth. Someone’s got to do it, because god only knows it won’t be our government, unless they’re forced…
And those who “tortured” and authorized “torture” to be carried out within our borders? They’re “free” to live out their lives in the lap of luxury.
GG,
“you dont do anything but post here based on the amount you post.” (directed at another “poster”)
Why would you even care?
“Hopefully you are paid by Moveon.org or one of the other socialist/communist apologists that infect our body politic with their trash.
You make me laugh little totalitarian boy/girl.”
Sounds like pure political projection to me.
This would be funny if it weren’t so disgusting. From the AP,
“Attorney General Eric Holder said the government was mounting a criminal investigation,…”This is not saber-rattling,” Holder said. Anyone found to have broken American law “will be held responsible.”
Definitely the work of partisan Republicans there! Yep, Obama’s DOJ is all over wrong doing. They recently arrested Bush for admitting to waterboarding, then they went after the banksters for criminal fraud, even the ones Obama appointed to run the economy. They have also decided to prosecute themselves for war crimes involving the use of drones and commission of torture. Bea-cons of justice, that Obama administration!
polymath my ass. you dont do anything but post here based on the amount you post. Hopefully you are paid by Moveon.org or one of the other socialist/communist apologists that infect our body politic with their trash.
You make me laugh little totalitarian boy/girl.
From Forbes
WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange Wants To Spill Your Corporate Secrets
By Andy Greenberg
http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/11/29/wikileaks-julian-assange-wants-to-spill-your-corporate-secrets/
Excerpt:
In a rare interview, Assange tells Forbes that the release of Pentagon and State Department documents are just the beginning. His next target: big business.
Early next year, Julian Assange says, a major American bank will suddenly find itself turned inside out. Tens of thousands of its internal documents will be exposed on Wikileaks.org with no polite requests for executives’ response or other forewarnings. The data dump will lay bare the finance firm’s secrets on the Web for every customer, every competitor, every regulator to examine and pass judgment on.
Ghosts carrying satchels … nice try but no cigar
Did I mention polymath, logician and debonair?
Yeah.
You have about as much chance of convincing the people who post and read here that I’m a fascist as you do of convincing them your IQ is above room temperature.
But you can keep on trying to attack me.
It shows how ethically bankrupt all your arguments are and the depths of your desperation.
I think Claire needs to be prosecuted…..
You make me laugh when you tip your hand. Tell Andy he still sucks. Run along now, lil’ obfuscator.
And if you must call me a name? Try these on:
smartass
anti-propagandist
Jeffersonian Constitutionalist
egalitarian
humanist
democratic socialist
troll-killer
See, those words have meanings as well. Accurate meaning too based on years of posting here with a consistent philosophy.
I don’t mind making you look like a fool. Really. I find it endlessly entertaining. Not very challenging, but fun nonetheless.
I just read what the head fascist wrote and it seems pretty clear to me.
Do they give you a cheat sheet at the Marxist Brothers Circus of Horrors and Crimes against Humanity?
If you were a socialist, you’d know that socialism and fascism are completely different.
And let’s look at the irony of this statement:
“You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig.”
You can call socialism “fascism, but it is still socialism.
You really aren’t too bright, are you? Do they give you a cheat sheet at Breitbart’s House of Political Deception or do you make this shit up as you go along just like you do your definitions?
Gyges:
yes words have meanings that people give them. I can call a dog a cat if I want but it doesn’t make the dog meow.
If I were a socialist I wouldn’t want it known that fascism and socialism are pretty much the same. If I were a leftist intellectual I would go way out of my way to obliterate the connection.
So you see your opinion doesn’t matter much to me. Benitos words spell it out for me. I don’t really care about a definition that has been defined by leftist intellectuals to hide an embarrassing fact.
When you admit that socialism is all about state control and that whether it is democratic or totalitarian doesnt really matter. You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig.
U.S. Pressured Germany Not To Prosecute CIA Officers For Torture And Rendition
November 29, 2010
Wikileaks Release Reveals Meeting About ACLU Client Khaled El-Masri
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/us-pressured-germany-not-prosecute-cia-officers-torture-and-rendition
NEW YORK – The Bush administration pressured Germany not to prosecute CIA officers responsible for the kidnapping, extraordinary rendition and torture of German national Khaled El-Masri, according to a document made public Sunday night by Wikileaks. The document, a 2007 cable from the U.S. Embassy in Berlin, describes a meeting during which the then-deputy chief of the U.S. mission to Germany, John M. Koenig, urged German officials to “weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S.” of issuing international arrest warrants in the El-Masri case. (end excerpt)