Judson Phillips, president of Tea Party Nation, thinks that it makes sense that voting rights in the United States should be restricted to those who own property. He believes that property owners have more of a “vested stake” in a community than do people who do not own property. That’s what he claimed on a weekly program hosted by Tea Party Nation recently.
BTW, Phillips is the individual who sent an email to members of his organization in October telling them that they should vote for the Independent candidate over Rep. Keith Ellison in the November election for 5th Congressional District in Minnesota. Phillips wrote the following about Ellison in his email: “There are a lot of liberals who need to be retired this year, but there are few I can think of more deserving than Keith Ellison. Ellison is one of the most radical members of congress. He has a ZERO rating from the American Conservative Union. He is the only Muslim member of congress.”
Meanwhile—Rushbo ranted on about poor folks recently on his radio program. In a “media tweak of the day,” Limbaugh asked listeners if they thought that people who can’t feed and clothe themselves and who receive government assistance should be allowed to vote. It was just a “think piece” Rushbo said as he asked his listeners to imagine how different the political make-up of this country would be if such people couldn’t vote.
In a Psycho Talk segment on his MSNBC program, Ed Schultz “tweaked” Limbaugh back.
Maybe Phillips and Limbaugh ought to get together to establish an organization for the purpose of taking voting rights away from certain Americans whom they deem unworthy. Why not return to the good old political days when only property-owning white men had the right to vote. Right???
Sources:
– Elaine Magliaro, Guest Blogger
Gyges:
they also didn’t mean for large interest groups to be able to take property from individuals.
I am guessing doesn’t understand the basis of our government.
J. Brian Harris: My son went to school there. He wanted out of Texas so we traveled a bit and looked around, and he chose Carleton. It was a very good place for him.
Elaine:
I answered your question. did you read beyond my questions.
Mike Spindell:
At least you hired black people.
eniobob:
Cant stand the truth? Then keep drinking the liberal kool aid.
I didn’t answer you with a KMAA. Talk about civility.
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I cant help it if all of you think Rush is a racist, just keep on praying to mother earth and maybe someday it will be so.
Got news for you, more of us than of you. A good deal more. We believe in live and let live and people should keep most of what they earn. In other words Tootie, me and people like us are moral actors. We probably give more to charity as well.
Kool Aid and Jim Jones, the only difference between yours and his is that Jim’s kool aid kills quickly. It is not a long drawn out process and it doesn’t kill an entire society just a few individuals who joined of their own free will (they were forced to drink the kool aid).
We don’t want your kool aid, we reject your kool aid. If you want to drink it go ahead, just don’t make the people who don’t want it drink it.
Funny how security is getting tighter under a liberal administration. Just another example of the use of force.
here is something from Weasel Zippers you all might like:
http://weaselzippers.us/2010/12/03/video-howard-dean-praising-saul-alinsky-tactics-that-got-obama-elected/
But guess what, that Alinsky shit works both ways and we have the talent to use it properly. That’s what happened in November if you haven’t figured it out yet and more of the same is coming in 2012.
Except we are using it to stomp your progressive ideas.
Chan,
I’d say since that distinction was the one of the main selling points of a representative democracy (or as Madison Called it a republic), yes it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._10
I’m guessing “slept through Civics.”
Swarthmore mom:
I was a Carleton physics major during 1957-1960.
Chan L.
Who gives a ***** what you expect,I don’t have to read a book or get someones opinion on what the Black Expierince is all about and I don’t need you trying to preach to me.
And due to the respect I have for this blog and the people who voice their opinions here I will refrain from responding to your BS any more for civility is what this blog thrives on,and I can feel that leaving me responding to an Ahole like you and the people who think like you.
J. Brian Harris: Did you say you went to Carleton?
Suppose I have no intellect and unambiguously recognize this fact; such recognition is obviously a form of intellectual property which I would inextricably own; this would guarantee my right to vote were property ownership required as a pre-condition for voting?
Hence, everyone can vote, and so can everything, once having no intellect is truthfully recognized as an inescapable form of intellectual property?
Q.E.D.?
What if the two most valuable forms of property anyone or anything can own are adamant ignorance and intransigent stupidity?
Would the human condition be other than as it is?
… typo… that would, of course, be “Blouise” 🙂
Bloise,
LOL
anon nurse,
Stop talking about Chan behind his back! 😉
Swarthmore mom wrote:
“Tea Party wants Sarah Palin to run for RNC chair. Surely some of her supporters are renters.”
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Touche, Swarthmore mom. (and thanks for the link, as well as bringing a smile…)
Many good, “able”, and compassionate people here… as evidenced by an ample number of the comments. (You know who you are, of course.)
In my career which was music, no one worked for me but a hell of a lot of people worked with me. They came in all shapes and sizes from all religious backgrounds. Some had one color skin, some another. They had varying sexual preferences and political views. Some were very good because they worked hard, some were exceptionally good because they had talent and worked hard.
Homophobes, racists, religious zealots had to quickly adjust their thinking if they wanted to succeed and/or make a living. Any music production is team work and everyone wants the most talented and the hardest working on their team to insure success. Strangely enough sexual preference, religious persuasion, race or political party played no role in the distribution of talent or the drive to succeed that produced hard work.
“There must be a way (in a free electoral system such as ours–for the moment) to compensate for the power that the many poor have over the few rich in the voting booth. Either the rich should have more weight to their votes or the poor less; otherwise the poor can vote to rob the rich blind.”
Thank you Tootie, we can always count on you to add ignorance to any discussion. In this case though I think ignorance has crossed the line into idiocy. I can only say that you should pray for your soul since to your surprise you’re not going to wind up in Heaven.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/05/AR2010120502691.html Incoming “populist” tea party congressmen are rapidly embracing big money fundraisers.
“before the great society of Lyndon Johnson they were moving up in society and creating wealth.”
Not only do you appear to be totally immersed in your myth, but you are ignorant of history. Before Johnso the laws in most states were set up to discriminate against minorities.
That certainly held them back.
I wonder if Rushbo had folks like Norman B. Champ III in mind when he talked about people who receive taxpayer assistance not being allowed to vote???
From New York Press (6/15/2010)
The Making of Manhattan’s Elite Welfare Farmers
Want fiscal reform? Let’s start by targeting the fattest farm subsidy checks—which are mailed to the richest New York ZIP codes.
http://www.nypress.com/article-21342-the-making-of-manhattans-elite-welfare-farmers.html
Excerpt:
Most people know next to nothing about this $20 billion-a-year welfare for the rich program, probably because the billionaires want it that way. Why get the masses worked up? Best to let them think the $200 billion they spent from 1995 through 2006 went to friendly farmers with cute farmhouses, rather than to Chevron or Kenneth Lay. Better to let urban entrepreneurs call themselves backyard farmers and toil away for the locavore movement, than to realize that their rich neighbors are reaping actual “farm” subsidies.
Now, farm subsidies weren’t always this criminal and, until fairly recently, had been doing what New Deal programs were designed to do: help the little guy. But the freemarket “reforms” of the Reagan-Clinton Era warped the welfare, redirecting farm subsidies from the have-nots to the have-mores, bankrupting all but the biggest farmers and depositing farm subsides into the bank accounts of the rich.
There’s no need to go to Iowa to see this welfare-for-the-rich in action. You can see it on the Upper East Side, where billionaire elites collect huge welfare checks from the government just for being rich, while a few blocks away, in one of the poorest, most ghettoized districts in the United States, the city’s black population is being purged from food stamp rolls for smoking some dope. Because, as Mayor Rudy Giuliani once wisely said, “As soon as they stop being dependent on the government, they’re moving in a much healthier direction.”
But brutal freemarket ideas don’t apply to members of Manhattan’s genteel farmer class, even billionaires like Norman B. Champ III, who received nearly a half-million dollars in welfare payments for poor farmers, despite the fact he lives in a multimillion dollar co-op at 828 Park Avenue. From 1995 to 2006, he raked in a total of $405,807 in dairy, corn and soy subsidies via his stake in the Champ family’s dairy farm in Missouri, his home state. Handout-for-handout, even Reagan’s mythic Cadillac-driving Chicago welfare queen and her $150,000 welfare scam got nothing on Champ, who could buy a Lamborghini and still have money left over to reupholster his private jet.
Norman B. Champ III, 47, was born into a wealthy, upper-crust Missouri family and lived a privileged life (the Champs had a Missouri village named after them in their honor: the Village of Champ). He graduated summa cum laude from Princeton University, went to England for a masters in war studies from King’s College and earned a law degree—cum laude, of course—from Harvard, after which he finally settled down at Chilton Investment Company, a multi-billion dollar hedge fund. He had added three titles to his name—Executive Vice President, General Counsel, Chief Compliance Officer—by the time the markets crashed. He lost no time jumping ship to a cushy government job with the Securities and Exchange Commission, coming on board in January 2010 to start a new life as a financial regulator at the SEC’s New York Inspections and Examinations Division. He now leads a team of 100 hardworking investigators in a crusade to crack down on the shady dealings of his hedge-fund buddies.
An upper-crust billionaire type who lives in one of the nation’s wealthiest ZIP codes and collects welfare meant for struggling farmers? Whatta champ!
“But probably no one on this blog runs a company of their own, so I suppose that is an unfair question.”
When I retired I had 315 peope working for me in 12 locations.
Perhaps 50% were black. I hired a good many of these workers and promoted many to to managerial positions. At the time of my retirement I helped promote a black man to take my place.
You are a fool if you don’t believe that Rush spouts racism all the time. You are even more a fool though if you nelieve that Rush holds any true beliefs or is in any way moral. He uses what sells to dopes like you to enrich himself. To put it another way you are just another selfish, self absorbed egoist who swallowed the myth.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/tea-party-nation-calls-on-sarah-palin-to-run-for-rnc-chair.php?ref=fpi Tea Party wants Sarah Palin to run for RNC chair. Surely some of her supporters are renters.
No pearls of wisdom from Chan … he’s an apologist for those who worship wealth. Your satchel is full of holes darlin’. Time for another reincarnation.