Louisville Police Officer Cody Chapelle has been suspended for 13 days after he gave a ticket to a seven-year-old boy who accidentally threw a ball that hit his personal vehicle. He charged the child with criminal mischief in the third degree.
The boy was playing ball when he turned criminal with an overthrow.
To complete this bizarre scene, Chapelle reported yelled at the boy’s mother about being a bad parent. Police Chief Robert White, however, felt it was more a matter of being a bad cop than a bad kid.
Here is the Kentucky criminal code provision:
512.040 Criminal mischief in the third degree.
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A person is guilty of criminal mischief in the third degree when:
(a) Having no right to do so or any reasonable ground to believe that he has such right, he intentionally or wantonly defaces, destroys or damages any property; or
(b) He tampers with property so as knowingly to endanger the person or property of another.
Criminal mischief in the third degree is a Class B misdemeanor.
Source: WHAS
Jonathan Turley
Tootie, I did not start here until after 08. If your rants about W were as fact free and incoherent as the ones on Obama I would have been ignoring you for longer. While I have no love for him I do have a love of rationality.
Gyges, I don’t think things posted on a blog could be behind someones back. They are right out there for everyone to see.
Oh, and my puter got a Trojan horse during the holidays.
I guess from my critics’ point of view, it was a gift.
To everyone who has defended me, or offered a full or even half-hearted call for civility, I thank you.
I’m not against rough and tumble debate. I’m still a street kid. But I am against uneven scolding or bullying that verges on genuine harassment.
May I suggest that if you see my name “Tootie” with a date and time stamp listed below it, and I’ve posted something underneath that: please don’t read it if I annoy you that much.
This is not that difficult.
If I don’t respond to you it may mean one or more of these or similar things:
I’ve gone out.
The dog is throwing up.
I’ve fallen asleep with my fingers still on the keyboard.
Someone came to the door and I stopped to see who it is.
People in the house got hungry and brought pots and pans to me.
People in the house need clean clothing.
People in the house need someone to lean on.
Mother called.
My boss expects me at work on time.
I ran out of time to post.
I ran out of patience and developed a headache from posting.
I wanted to comment on other things.
It’s hard to find all the posts and counter-posts (because of the organization of this blog).
I get to do what I want though I try to get back to everyone.
🙂
Frank,
And this certainly isn’t one of the more informative conversations. I actually didn’t expect that anyone would pay attention to my comment. I just felt that if I was going to call Chan out for following Buddha around insulting him, to be consistent I should call other people out for doing a similar thing to Tootie.
For what it’s worth, here’s my suggestion: Whenever anyone says something that you just know is wrong, ask yourself “well how do I know this is wrong?” If you can’t give a good specific answer, if you’ve got the time, do some research into the topic. You’ll be amazed at how much you can learn doing that. Of course, I’ve got a lot more down time in my schedule than most people.
You’ll find yourself a lot more patient with people’s mistakes when you learn from them yourself.
Tootie,
I hope I didn’t offend you by talking about you “behind your back.” I’m pretty sure I haven’t said anything that I wouldn’t say directly to you.
frank,
You wrote:
“OBAMA EVIL, DEMOCRATS CAUSE ALL PROBLEMS EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND, ALL POLICE MUST BE DESTROYED, THE WHOLE WORLD IS PERSECUTING CHRISTIANS”
You got one thing correct, Obama is evil.
If I had been here at Mr. Turley’s blog during the Bush regime, you would most likely have been pleased that I thought Bush was evil and I doubt you never would have complained about it.
You wrote:
“There are is a lot of smart, interesting and informative discussion at this site. Sadly, tootie has never been a part of that from what I have seem. I hope this does not come off as harsh…”
Oh no, that would be impossible.
There have been attempts to discuss topics here with tootie in the past that have gotten nowhere. Since tootie’s starting point is always OBAMA EVIL, DEMOCRATS CAUSE ALL PROBLEMS EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND, ALL POLICE MUST BE DESTROYED, THE WHOLE WORLD IS PERSECUTING CHRISTIANS” with little variation and no sense of proportion or connection to the real world. And, since there has been no indication of any sort of reality entering tootie comments, I had been trying to just ignoring them.
I actually feel sorry for tootie. Obviously they are extremely angry at a fantasy world that does not exist outside the closed loop of their own making. Seriously though most tootie comment could be put together with those word magnets.
There are is a lot of smart, interesting and informative discussion at this site. Sadly, tootie has never been a part of that from what I have seem. I hope this does not come off as harsh, it was intended to be an explanation for my comment earlier. To the best of my ability (I’ll admit I am imperfect and might backslide but will redouble my efforts in the future – in this case I’ll admit I was egged on by other comments) I will go back to ignoring tootie comments.
The worst thing I can imagine ever myself doing is ignoring what I cannot yet possibly understand.
My parents were both “history buffs,” who voraciously devoured history by reading many contrasting books about history. There is the mainstream history, the supposed “history of the victors,” and there is also the history of the vanquished. What is “true believer victor history” commonly differs stunningly from the non-self-serving history of the vanquished.
There is a curious feature of early, non-established history of The Way. Victory was found in being vanquished for the sake of truthfulness as the vanquished understood it.
As for historical inaccuracies, no accurate history can be written or told, because the errorless observations needed to write or tell history are impossible to make.
While a consensus may develop among historians and students of history, consensus as a diviner of truth is catastrophically perilous, as many horribly learned in the German death camps.
I have little trouble perusing my personal-research library and finding proper historians who largely agree with Tootie’s historical interpretation and others who disagree with it.
To live in a decent world, one must be decent; else one’s own indecency rules out living in a decent world, even if nothing else does. Or, am I wrong?
I readily fantasize that I am one among many of the worlds greatest idiots when it comes to the social status game of twenty questions.
If I were someone with social status, I might lose my social status. Having no social status, I have no social status to lose.
Having nothing to lose, I can only win; I can only win accepting and affirming my life as I accept and affirm the lives of others.
I guess we should be happy that this police officer didn’t taze the child or shoot him. Kudos to the Louisville PD for actually taking some action to discipline cops who get out of control. Maybe this short suspension will get this officer back into the correct state of mind to do his job correctly and to remember who pays his salary.
Gyges
This thread has become too harsh on Tootie and I regret, somewhat, my participation in it.
Blame it on having turned the other cheek one too many times in reading her insults about leftists and liberals other peoples’ viewpoints. Civility encourages civility. Non-civility also encourges non-civilty. We should try to rise above it.
I guess the best thing would be to simply ignore what we cannot possibly understand.
Mespo,
To be clear: I was speaking less to you (and Mike S, and Slart, etc.) demolishing the arguments and historical inaccuracies and more to the “huh huh Tootie’s crazy” style of comments.
Of course, I hold my tongue and suffer fools gladly, else I needs be must already have committed suicide to avoid living in a world of fools; which invariably I refuse gladly to do, and, were I suffering, would do gladly as a suffering fool.
RE: Gyges, January 21, 2011 at 5:36 pm
“…As much as we disagree with her…”
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Using words which are about me, and no one else, I commonly find someone using the notion of “the editorial we” which notion never includes me.
Of course, I disagree with some of Tootie’s expressed views as I can understand her views. I cannot imagine anyone with whom I would totally agree to the minutest detail and beyond.
Nevertheless, I do find much of what Tootie posts to be within what I find to be valid science. And I question, relentlessly and with unabated skepticism, every scientific view I hold. There are many views that I have with which I disagree; I have those views because I have been unable to find a less problematic view to use as an improved replacement.
My personal experience, whether of understanding or misunderstanding, is that ad-hominem argument is a diversion tactic of those who have no valid argument and need to deflect attention from the inadequacies of their own model espoused.
I welcome challenges to my understanding as I can communicate it. Perhaps there is a terrible flaw of understanding to which I am as blind yet someone else can clearly see. Perhaps words work for other people in ways which elude my awareness.
When people criticize my use of words or their understanding of my words, I am only glad, for that is what helps me more than anything else I have experienced to relate to other people with improved decency and shared understanding.
Were I asked, please do not ask, and I were silly enough to say what I understand, I would make the mistake of saying something like, “My guess, and I think it is probably wrong, is that people who use ad-hominem arguments have no valid argument to offer. I sometimes wonder whether that may sometimes be an indication of some sort of personality disorder, such as may signal some shortage of self-respect.”
If ever my struggle, and it often is a very intense struggle, to get words to convey to someone else my intended meaning, results in someone believing that I am mocking someone, I profoundly apologize.
Because I do not “fight back,” and because I find my inner life is perfectly satisfactory, I have no need or way to build myself up by putting someone else down.
When I was young, in grade school, some others who were inclined to bully people would pick me as though I was “an easy target,” because, I surmise, they thought of me as a very weak person.
What “bullies” tend to miss is that I do not fight back because I am weak; I do not fight back because I am way too strong to need, or be willing, to fight back.
It saddens me when my not needing to fight back because I am too strong for such a need is as though it frustrates “the living daylights” out of a “bully” or causes a “bully” to “blow fuses” mentally.
When I remember to do so, I put “bully” and “bullies” in quotes because there really is no such thing as a “bully.” Yet there are people who have been bullied and whose available response is to replicate their experience, thereby bullying others, as their only actually available method of dealing with having been bullied.
It is my personal observation that Tootie models a form of honest truthfulness regarding her beliefs and understandings which any and everyone may usefully learn.
To ridicule or mock her is a sad way of mocking oneself. Show me otherwise and I will learn otherwise.
mespo said, “Reasonable people can certainly differ, but must they always hold their tongues and suffer fools gladly?”
I think it’s pretty obvious where I stand on that issue.
Gyges:
Of you are correct and every person here is worthy of respect but a what point does respect for the person give way to contempt for the inane thoughts and childish reactions. Reasonable people can certainly differ, but must they always hold their tongues and suffer fools gladly?
Off topic:
Far be it for me to stick up for Tootie but…
Commenting about her specific posts is one thing, and JT is pretty lenient in enforcing his civility rules (See: Buddha) as long as the lack of civility is related to the discussion at hand.
The only times I’ve seen JT step in is when a discussion deteriorates into pointless name calling.
I think that the increase in blatantly off topic mockery may be is walking a little close to that line these days. Lord knows I take the occasional shot at her, but I try and keep them limited to something she’s just said (See my Goodwin comment).
As much as we disagree with her, this is still the JT’s Blog, and he’s asked us all to play nice.
All that said, we all make our own choices, and on issues like this one, I don’t judge people for making ones I disagree with. I’m just putting that thought out there for everyone to consider.
Imago projection is sometimes astonishing.
Tootie, it’s time to come home. You have been found out. Your participation hereafter will be reduced to binary script. Does this compute with you. Phone Home!
Frank
I have been convinced for some time that “Tootie” is actually a software program that generates random sentences based on words input into it. The program is very clever and does produce sentences that appear coherent but make no sense when strung together.
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I thought something seemed familiar about it. You mean like an Artificial Intelligence experiment gone terribly, terribly wrong? Who would do such a thing – another blawg?
I know this hard to believe. But we have many Maphia folks here. Officer only trying to say boy from die if his ball ever hit Maphia man car. It sad my officer buddy got a screw by the department. Thank you. Youra country much nice.
I wait for the day when a police officer sees a three year old girl throwing a Nerf ball toward the officer, the officer thinks the ball is grenade with the pin pulled, shoots at the ball to deflect it from its path, misses the ball, and accidentally shoots the girl dead.
I hope to wait longer than forever for that day.
I need not wait for similar days, they have already happened.
Imagine, as though in the manner of a 78 RPM shellac phonograph record, cracked, cactus needle stylus, playing in the manner of “ta-da ta-da-ta-da-click ta… (repeated endlessly):
Its situational click Its situational click Its situational click Its situational click Its situational click Its situational click Its situational click Its situational click Its situational click (until the “cactus needle stylus” wears down and can no longer “play the record.”)
What then?