Submitted by Lawrence Rafferty, (rafflaw), Guest Blogger
I don’t think Barry Goldwater would recognize Conservatism or his Republican Party if he was alive today. Conservatism used to mean belief in safe and sound economic spending and freedom for all from governments getting too large and too restrictive on personal freedoms. Recently we have seen Republicans offer up a brand new and dangerous definition of rape in an attempt to restrict abortions and to restrict government money being used to pay for them. Now we are seeing another Republican attempt to restrict the use of contraceptives under the guise of ending the alleged use of Federal funds to pay for abortions.
A recent article outlined the legislation proposed by Rep. Mike Spence of Indiana to eliminate the entire $327 million dollar budget for Title X. Title X is a program that provides funding for women’s health and family planning costs. “The measure would eliminate all $327 million in funding for Title X, a family planning program that began 40 years ago under President Richard Nixon. And while Planned Parenthood receives millions of dollars from the program, Title X funds cannot be used for abortion services. The money is to be used for noncontroversial family planning services, mostly for low-income families.”
Rep. Spence and his fellow Republicans are trying to defund Planned Parenthood because it receives millions from Title X funds to assist women in their family planning and health matters. In order to try to end abortions without testing the strength of Roe v. Wade in the courts, the sponsors and backers of this bill don’t care if low-income women suffer by not getting the health care that they so desperately need. Many of these same legislators also backed the repeal of the Affordable Health Care act which would also assist low-income women get affordable health care.
The proposed legislation would end all monies from Title X and the effects of those funds drying up could be catastrophic for women. “The pro-abortion-rights group NARAL said the legislation would lead to more unwanted pregnancies by cutting funding for contraceptives. “The new anti-choice House leadership now wants to take away birth control and cancer screenings from millions of American women and men,” said Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL. “While these politicians attack abortion coverage from every angle, they now want to deny funding for birth control, even though that’s the best way to prevent unintended pregnancy. Americans will not stand for this blatant hypocrisy.” ‘
Is it just me or do I detect a pattern here? What do these mostly male Republicans have against women? I was thinking of writing an article asking when America will have its own “Egyptian” moment, but maybe I should ask when will American Women have their “Egyptian” moment?
Source: Raw Story
Submitted by Lawrence Rafferty, (rafflaw), Guest Blogger

Spoken like a true virgin and someone who knows squat about women, Chan.
Elaine:
here is what Stamford Liberal said:
“My guess is she recognized your, uh, short-comings. Smart girl.”
I think turnabout is fair play. Or do you adhere to the old fashion notion of women are inferior to men? You want to be treated like one of the guys until you cant take it. Most of you cant.
And so we feminize men so that women wont feel insecure. You may be as smart as we are, although one of your own (liberal Larry Summers) wondered out load about the lack of women in math/science/engineering, but most of you are not as physically robust as we are and are not able to handle stress as well as we do.
Ever wonder why they have male and female events at the Olympics?
Your response was pretty old fashioned Elaine. You sure you are a liberal?
You know what the funniest thing is? Tootie would never have insulted me based on the size of my penis, she would have insulted my ideas. You may not agree with her but at least she knows where the “beef” really is.
Chan L.,
Chan L.
1, February 15, 2011 at 8:38 am
Stamford Liberal:
“I think I will take my grammy’s opinion over yours, I know she was a lady. I doubt anyone says the same thing about you unless they want to get in your pants and have a bottle of Boons Farm and a plastic cup handy.”
*****
It is evident from that comment that you are no gentleman.
rafflaw:
here is an excerpt from an article:
“Differences by Race and Ethnicity
Large racial/ethnic differences exist in the percentage of births to unmarried women, with
non-Hispanic white women and Asian or Pacific Islander women being much less likely
to have a nonmarital birth. In 2005, 69.5 percent of all births to non-Hispanic black
women, 63.3 percent of births of American Indian or Alaskan native woman, and 47.9
percent of births to Hispanic women occurred outside of marriage, compared with 25.4
percent for non-Hispanic white women and 16.2 percent for Asian or Pacific Islander
women (preliminary estimates). (See Figure 1)”
link to article:
http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/pdf/75_PDF.pdf
I dont know if this is a politically motivated web site or not.
Stamford Liberal:
How do you know I am sexist? Because I said if women would say no there would be fewer pregnancies? I guess the answer to that is there would be fewer pregnancies.
But then my great grandmother lived with us and she used to tell me when she was a young woman you didn’t have men up to your room unless you left the door open and told the land lady. She also said that if a woman doesn’t want to you aint gonna.
Maybe she was a sexist and assumed men were pigs and unable to control themselves, I doubt it because she is my fathers mother and he told me to keep it in my pants until I was married.
I think I will take my grammy’s opinion over yours, I know she was a lady. I doubt anyone says the same thing about you unless they want to get in your pants and have a bottle of Boons Farm and a plastic cup handy.
W=C,
“Bob, How do you define DMZ and social compact as related to abortion? I’ve not heard them used this way before…”
What I call the ‘DMZ’ is essentially a restatement of the necessity of the existence of the distinction between alienable and inalienable rights within a social compact.
Basically, mankind is born into nature with ALL rights. Then, in order to better protect those rights, mankind enters into a social compact; giving up some of those rights to better protect the remainder. In order to ensure that the contract between society and mankind does not become illusory, the distinction between alienable and inalienable rights becomes paramount. The exercise of power over an alienable right is termed ‘usurpation’ while the exercise of power over an inalienable right is ‘tyranny.’
Thus in the words of Locke:
“AS usurpation is the exercise of power, which another hath a right to; so tyranny is the exercise of power beyond right, which no body can have a right to.”
Per the issue of abortion, you have two competing rights; the rights of the individual v. the rights of the yet to be born.
Per the rights of the individual, the social compact bars the state from promulgating laws that exercise power over the individual’s right of self-ownership.
Locke: “Though the earth, and all inferior creatures, be common to all men, yet every [one] has a property in his own person: this no body has any right to but himself.
(At this point I usually illustrate the differences between duties of virtue and duties of right to bring the vagueness of the problem into specific relief; regardless…) When the state promulgates a duty to the self as if it were a duty to the state, it necessarily exercises power over the inalienable right of self ownership and therefore commits tyranny. This is what happens if the state is allowed to prohibit abortion entirely; it turns the citizen of the United States into Property of the United States to be manipulated and disposed of without limit by whoever is in power.
The first trimester, existing as I called a DMZ, preserves the social compact in that it gives the citizen ample time to exercise the right to determine a life course before the state enters the picture and says ‘we now represent the interests of the unborn.’
Without that window, there is no social compact. You could say, there’s just the Matrix.
So Tootie,
your answer to why the Red states tend to have a higher teen pregnancy rate than blue states is due to your claim that they have more minorities?? Wow. So you are blaming it on blacks and hispanics. The Republican, god fearing whites didn’t have anything to do with it? You claim to be a Christian, and in that case I will ask you what I have asked before. WWJD?
Elaine M:
I concur with Blouise, timing is everything! And, thanks for the CDC link – very interesting.
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Woosty’s:
LOL – I think Taliban Tootie needs more than just a good shrink but that was very generous of you nonetheless!
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Taliban Tootie:
I’m sure George Carlin’s spinning in his grave because of what you think of him. What ever will he do?!
“I wish Carlin had been aborted. His mother, clearly, made the wrong choice.”
Well, I could say the same about you but, I’m not Christian, so I won’t. Clearly, spouting such flowery sentiments are reserved for your kind. You know, good, God-fearing folks such as yourself.
Gyges,
“Wait, you mean T.V. would lie to me?”
If you been watching FOX News, the answer would be an emphatic YES!
Tootie,
You aborted civility long ago….send me your e-mail and I’ll send you the name of a good shrink….
Elaine,
Wait, you mean T.V. would lie to me?
“Bob,Esq. 1, February 14, 2011 at 8:53 pm
The first trimester DMZ is a necessity to preserving the social compact.”
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Bob, How do you define DMZ and social compact as related to abortion? I’ve not heard them used this way before…
Notes on George Carlin.
Notice how Carlin thinks I’m responsible for other peoples kids. What kind of person has babies they know they cannot take care of and expect others to?
Only a leftist moron.
Carlin thinks GOPers are only interested in fetuses when they become soldiers?
But it is Democrats who led the nation in a century of war: ww1 and 2, Korea, and Vietnam. It was the Republicans who were the dreaded “isolationists”.
A carbon atom can never become a fetus. Only an anti-intellectual and unscientific leftist or primitive thinks otherwise.
Leftists don’t get the birds and bees story. Carlin actually thinks a sperm can become a fetus. This is a scientific impossibility. No matter how long a sperm sits alone by it self, and no matter how many billions of sperms sit around by themselves, they can never ever become a fetus.
And it is false that religious people caused all the violence in the past. Most wars are over limited resources. And the most deadly murderers were last century: the godless communists.
I guess maybe the reason left-wingers are so stupid about this issue is because they take their marching orders from a foul-mouthed comic.
I wish Carlin had been aborted. His mother, clearly, made the wrong choice.
Oh that’s right, Carlin knows the truth now.
Regrets, regrets, regrets.
From the CDC (October 2010)
State Disparities in Teenage Birth Rates in the United States
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db46.pdf
rafflaw:
You wrote:
“Tootie, have you checked out the out of wedlock pregnancy rates in right wing states as compared to left wing states?”
The chap at the link below isn’t a right-winger, but seems to have,apparently, done a decent job with the stats provided by Guttmacher. You can click on the html or download the spreadsheet at his page and take a look at the numbers he collated.
I agree with the author of that article that red states tend to have higher concentrations of blacks and Hispanics (who have the highest unwed mother rates when compared to whites). This is especially true in the South. Mississippi has more a percentage of blacks than Vermont and since blacks have the highest unwed mother rate…and so on and so forth. Naturally, education has to do with this issue but you weren’t talking about that either. You are just pouncing on conservatives, Christians, or GOPers.
You have simply decided, then, that this is a matter of conservative values. Or perhaps you have been duped by left-wing knuckleheads in the media who hate right-wingers and will do and say anything, including misrepresenting the data, in order to attack them. For instance, the New York Times?
This is unfortunate. In this case it is more likely that the results we are looking at are greatly impacted by racial mix and concentrations. We see this more clearly the closer we look. Detroit, a blue CITY/state, does not hav the same amount or rate of unwed mothers as Portland, Maine (also a blue city/state). This is a high black population compared to a high white population of two blue states. Detroit’s rates are probably higher than most cities in the South with low black populations. You are barking up the wrong tree and it looks like a bunch of high-paid dogs led the way.
I realize we are only supposed to celebrate the diversity leftist cram down our throats, but are forbidden to notice or be willing to discuss frankly what that actually looks like in reality, even if there are scientific or demographic trends we can examine.
http://www.occams-razor.info/2005/10/red_vs_blue_myth_vs_reality.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states
Elaine,
Perfect timing for the Carlin clip
The first trimester DMZ is a necessity to preserving the social compact.
BBB: “Our scientific knowledge about unborn human life has greatly increased since Roe.”
Irrelevant. Advances in science do not determine where we draw the line morally and legally.
“Everyone must admit that if a law is to be morally valid as a ground of obligation, then it must carry with it absolute necessity. [One] must concede that the ground of obligation here must therefore be sought not in the nature of man, nor in the circumstances of the world in which man is placed, but must be sought a priori solely in the concepts of pure reason; he must grant that every other precept which is founded on principles of mere experience-even a precept that may in certain respects be universal-in so far as it rests in the least on empirical grounds-perhaps only in its motive–can indeed be called a practical rule, but never a moral law.”
If I had a dime for every time I’ve posted that quote…
BBB, et al.
As much as I hate to be a wet blanket to this lovely flame, but let’s look at actual medical literature.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content-nw/full/117/1/22/T1
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18240080
It looks like the general medical consensus of outside limit of viability is about 24 weeks.
Rule of thumb … if you have to tell a guy “no” more than once, it’s time to find a new guy