Various news organizations are reporting that Osama Bin Laden is dead. President Obama is expected to announce the news. Bin Laden was reportedly killed in Pakistan by an operation involving Navy Seals but the story is still unfolding. YahooReports indicate that he was shot in the head after he and his bodyboards resisted an attack by the elite unit.
The fact that he reportedly went down fighting will likely add to his image as a martyr — though people who follow him need little encouragement or reason.
Bin Laden was a murderous fanatic who used religion to spread hate. His passing from this Earth would be welcomed news and, even for the most agnostic or atheist among us, there is a lingering wish that there is place for the damned to greet men like Bin Laden after the untold harm that he caused not just to his country but to many countries. Hundreds of thousands of dead can be credited to his dark legacy and beliefs.
While liberals and conservatives differed on the means used to fight Bin Laden, there was never any division on the commitment to fight terrorism or the shared loss from his crimes. On September 11th, the plane that hit the Pentagon struck just after I passed the building on my way to work. I made it about a mile away after blowing my tire on the curb and changing the tire as huge columns of smoke filled the air.
In the end, Bin Laden remained the authentic symbol of radical Islam — an extremist filled with hate living with fellow troglodytes in caves and crevices.
Bin Laden’s death will force some accounting of what has been gained and what has been lost since his infamous wave of terror began. Too much of the damage of 9-11 proved to be self-inflicted, including our use of torture and the launching of two wars that have cost thousands of more American lives and hundreds of billions as the nation sinks into debt and economic distress.
There is no indication that our continued loss of money or personnel in Afghanistan will decrease in any way as a result of the news. While the Afghanistan war seemed personality driven with Bin Laden as the face of evil, it has taken on a type perpetual war due to a lack of political courage to end it.
The world is far better without the likes of Osama Bin Laden. However, he left an ample legacy (and legions) to guarantee that religious hate will continue to shape the future of that region and the world at large.
Thank you Blouise I know in my heart we are doing the right thing. So many people keep giving me attitude that she’s 81 years old and if she wants to take pain medication let her, blah blah blah. I’m like no, this is how we are going to do this, butt out. 🙂
I hadn’t watched much tv as of late Ms. Blouise but I rest assured your information is correct.
Oh wow, there’s the video–posted! I swear I have posted the URL’s before and it just showed up as links. Now the actual video appears—cool.
Bda,
Best to your mom.
Damn, I dont know why the Benazir Bhutto video didnt show up. I posted it and it wasn’t there when I saw the post! Here it is.
She says it at the 2:14 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
I still have no idea how people actually post the video on here. When I post URL’s OR the embed code—–still only a LINK appears on the post—never the actual video.
Raff she always have pain but with the narcotics she was wasting away in bed. When she could no longer remember my cell number is when I had to make a decision. We will continue to work with her pain but will do it in a number of ways. We put her on a new herbal called curimin
http://www.curamin.com/ingredients/
It seems to be effective. The narcotics are known to cause constipation and we have has to give her colace and other bowel movement enhancers in the past. Since starting the curamin about two weeks ago she now has regular function of her bowels with out the need for assistance from OTC drugs.
Bda,
The reporter also said the detainee only knew the courier’s nickname, that he had a brother and that they sometimes worked for Bin Laden.
I don’t remember the reporter’s name … she’s older, medium length dark hair, bangs … not Jeanne Meserve but kinda looks like her
Larry,
You seen particularly shrill this morning … did you finally figure out that unicorns really aren’t real?
Here is former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto telling David Frost in Nov of 2007 that Omar Shiekh killed Osama bin Laden. She says it at the 2:14 mark.
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg&w=425&h=349%5D
I forgot to say [above]—isn’t it funny that Osama was “buried at sea”? Makes it hard for anyone to ever know if he had actually died years ago and was on ice all this time.
This story talks about his body being on ice for nearly 10 years
http://www.prisonplanet.com/inside-sources-bin-ladens-corpse-has-been-on-ice-for-nearly-a-decade.html
Your supposition though is an assumption with little factual basis.
Mike thank you once again but come on, common sense tends to tell us other wise. No one offered the information freely about someone they were willing to die and kill for.
Well said Mike S., as usual!
Bdaman,
Pain free is good. I hope it continues that way.
Here is the link to the Firedoglake article that mentions a detainee named Abdul Faraj al-libi as one possible source. http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/05/02/abu-faraj-al-libi-and-the-trail-to-osama-bin-laden/
Your mother should be your first priority. I hope the situation works out for the best.
Raff it has been an up and down moment. We are in an up phase right now. A month ago she had a 50 macro gram fentilin patch on her back and was taking morphine 2 to 3 times a day plus a few other meds. She has not had that for three weeks and is pretty much narcotic free.
Bdaman,
I know well what strain your mother’s illness and caring for her must put on you. Having gone through a similar experience with my own mother at age 17 I can feel empathy for what you are going through. To deal with the illness of a beloved at any age is an incredibly sad experience.
“How do you suppose they were able to learn that. By offering Cuban cigars and expresso and a free round of golf.”
Your supposition though is an assumption with little factual basis. Even if the information was obtained from a Guantanamo detainee, we do not know under what circumstance it was attained. Most experts in extracting information agree that torture, besides being abominable is an ineffective method for gathering intelligence. The best methodology is by gaining the confidence of the suspect and showing them kindness. Proven in the famous Stockholm Experiment that had the putative captives siding with the putative captors. We also don’t know what incentives might have been offered. In this case, barring more conclusive proof, your hypothesis is invalid.
Larry you are correct. This is why the Pakistani’s demanded proof.
As should the American people. What are we gonna do now that the boogie man is gone.
OS,
you beat me to it. KSM was singing before the torture techniques were utilized. Besides, Firedoglake has the name of a different detainee who may have informed the authorities of the courier’s name.
Bdaman,
Your mother should be your first priority. I hope the situation works out for the best.
Buddha this thread is about the death and murder of OBL. If you would like to add to the discussion please do so. You have really become disruptive to the blog with your failed antics over the last several days Mr. Mastermind.
OS, just incase any posters on this thread didn’t see the Ayn Rand thread where I caught you in THREE lies about the Pentagon on 9-11, they can now see clearly your blatant stupidity and lack of concern for the truth at your 5:44am post above where you posted a link showing “the first pictures of Osama’s body”. This was the link OS posted everybody:
http://www.livemint.com/2011/05/02084418/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-in-shoo.html
This picture is a CLEAR fake. It has been circulating on the web for almost a year. Some TV and radio stations have already declared it fake. If you want PROOF, here is one website from LAST NOVEMBER that posted the SAME picture.
http://www.a-w-i-p.com/years-of-deceit-us-openly-accepts-bin-la.html
The fact is, Osama bin Laden has been reported dead nearly a DOZEN times already. The most notable declaration of Osama’s death was in 2007 when Pakistani Prime Minister [before her assassination] told David Frost that Omar Shiekh had killed Osama. Doesnt anyone remember that? I will post the link in the next post since I can’t post 3 in the same post.
OS, your link above shows and PROVES you care NOTHING about FACTS, or research, or verification, or truth. You just blow the trumpets for those who you ALREADY support and care nothing about getting to the TRUTH. Click the link above from a-w-i-p.com—-the article from November 2010 talks about Bin laden already being dead. But OS, why would facts deter you from posting complete bullshit?
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was singing like a canary until the higher-ups (Cheney, perhaps?) ordered the torture to commence.
Since KSH was caught in 2003, so that time line does not fit what the President said last evening.
KSM is not the only detainee.
From the article.
Detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, had given the courier’s pseudonym to American interrogators
Detainees is plural and they said the courier was a protege of KSM.
The lower grade detainees are probably mentally weaker than say the likes of someone closer to the top like KSM.
Awwwww. Isn’t that cute. The troll repeats a failed taunt out of desperation.
And by cute I mean “really sad and pathetic”.