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This Is Ok, But Not Saggy Pants?

A couple days ago, we saw how an US Airways pilots evacuated a plane and arrested a young man for wearing saggy pants that showed his underwear. Yet, US Airways allowed this man to fly in women’s underwear. I am confused.

A passenger, on a June 9th flight from Fort Lauderdale, Fla., to Phoenix snapped the picture after various passengers complained. However, the staff ignored the objections and the airline later said that the company has no dress code. That leaves the question of why the college football player was arrested on the basis of his saggy pants.

I personally find both of these men to be irresponsible and obnoxious in their clothing styles. The latest style controversy involves a man wearing clothing (or lack of it) that would be equally objectionable for a woman in public. It is an act of exhibitionism that would be disturbing to children and parents alike. It shows a complete lack of concern for others.

However, absent a dress code, I fail to see the basis or the consistent policy enforced by US Airways.

Source: SF Gate

52 thoughts on “This Is Ok, But Not Saggy Pants?”

  2. “This doesn’t mean I would go around nude myself, no one wants to se me naked.”

    “I think that last sentence contradicts your prior points. If you believe nudity is truly okay, you should wave your flag for it.”

    Anon,

    Are you purposely obtuse, or do you work hard at it? you asked me what I believe and I told you:

    “I actually have no personal objection to total nudity, but in repressed American society, which has attached so much baggage to nudity, that it is not possible. This doesn’t mean I would go around nude myself, no one wants to se me naked. however, we make far too much of dress in this country and our sexual repression has bred many prurient minds, with a propensity for becoming aroused inappropriately.”

    There is nothing nuanced about it merely an honest statement of belief, which you obviously don’t share. However, cut and paste quotations do no an argument make.

    “I think people like to hide behind a banner of how extremely tolerant they are because it seems to make an effective base from which to argue that someone else’s opinion is one of intolerance”

    I think a common tactic of intolerant people is to accuse those who abjure intolerance, with being intolerant. The intellectual equivalent of : Nyahh!,Nyahh!,Nyahh!.

  3. Sen. Kirk wants FAA to investigate alleged religious discrimination by Delta

    Illinois Sen. Mark Kirk (R) called Friday for the Federal Aviation Administration to investigate allegations Delta Airlines blocked Jewish passengers from flying as part of an agreement with a Saudi Arabian airline.

    USA Today reported Thursday on rumors circulating Internet that as part of Saudi Arabian Airlines’s agreement to join Delta’s SkyTeam alliance, Delta would enforce a Saudi ban on passengers from Israel and non-Islamic religious artifacts.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/aviation/168339-sen-kirk-wants-faa-to-investigate-delta-religious-discrimination-rumors

  4. nothin beats the green bologna and stale cheese sandwiches at the dooly county georgia lock-up. and the old gum wallpaper can’t be beat. if your gum loses it’s flavor, just peal some of the wall. sooner or later you’ll find some with some flavor left.

  5. By the way, the kielbasa with paczki’s for dessert at the Milwaukee County Jail is worth the 30 days, not to mention the czarnina.

  6. Whenever I fly, I always wear a top hat and carry a cane in case the pilot orders me to tap dance in the aisle. Sometimes I throw sand in the aisle and do the sand dance/ shim-sham-shimmy while humming “Tea for Two”. The judge usually gives me 30 days for that.

  7. “Thanks for the links. They certainly clarify the comments of those who doubt this is a popular, if annoying, fashion trend.”

    That word, (popular), I am not sure it means what you think it means….

    ” I draw the line at uncovering one’s sexual organ, male and/or female. I actually have no personal objection to total nudity, but in repressed American society, with have attached so much baggage to nudity, that it is not possible. This doesn’t mean I would go around nude myself, no one wants to se me naked.”

    I think that last sentence contradicts your prior points. If you believe nudity is truly okay, you should wave your flag for it. And there are other reasons besides prurience for demanding dress: safety (wear shoes); hygiene, your thong ain’t going to cut it; respect, I respect that you are bringing your kids up in a reasonable manner, and that my being naked/giving the guy next to me a handy, is not just a strike against horrible American prurience brought onto us by the man, but perhaps my just not having any personal boundaries and actually disrespecting you..

    And like Rafflaw, and like Professor Turley, you hear one story of one person being denied, and you immediately get out your IT’S RACIST card.

    You don’t ask: how many people of any race were denied today. How many people who were denied were black? How many people wearing inappropriate clothes were let on board? How many of those were black?

    Because that’s the data you need to determine if the pilot’s actions were racist.

    Rafflaw continues by claiming it’s okay for the pilot to have an opinion but then admitting he the pilot can’t having expressing them if they are not Rafflaw’s standards.

    I think people like to hide behind a banner of how extremely tolerant they are because it seems to make an effective base from which to argue that someone else’s opinion is one of intolerance, and therefore society should not permit that.

    Elsewhere in the news:

    http://www.fark.com/comments/6325675/Fatties-gays-grannies-come-together-to-sue-pilot-for-having-an-opinion-they-dont-agree-with

    The flight attendants are suing because the idiot pilot with the stuck microphone disparaged them.

    So they didn’t hear any of it, they just heard reports of it, and it was clearly a mistake, and the pilot has already been punished.

    Should the flight attendants sue? Should the pilot lose his job over that?

    Does not hearing the remarks but knowing they’ve been made amount to a hostile work environment?

    I linked to the FARK discussion, because it’s interesting if not predictable, and from there you can get to the consumerist link.

    In the comments, people make exactly these points: the pilots remarks, handed to flight attendants by a third party, create a hostile work environment. The pilot has no right to have said what he said, and should lose his job, for the nature of those remarks alone, not just because he was gabbing on an open mic, not because he could’t fly his aircraft.

  8. For the life of me I don’t know why any Jew, or any non-Muslim would want to go to Saudi Arabia.

    Maybe thats why Delta can claim they don’t discriminate knowing that a Jewish person would not want to fly there anyway. Not sure.
    I linked the article from HuffPo thinking it was confirmed but then I saw it linked as rumor. Who knows.

  9. Chris,

    Thanks for the links. They certainly clarify the comments of those who doubt this is a popular, if annoying, fashion trend.

    Bdaman,

    For the life of me I don’t know why any Jew, or any non-Muslim would want to go to Saudi Arabia. Certainly not for a vacation and I don’t think non-Muslim tourists are allowed to see The Kaaba.

  10. “with have attached so much baggage to nudity,”

    which has attached so much baggage to nudity,

  11. “Yeah, I’m going to need some citations on that. Because I never see people walking around the airport in their jammies, or walking around the store or the bank or the mall….”

    Anon,

    I don’t know where you live, but around where I live and/or visit I’ve seen people in PJ’s and I’m talking upscale neighborhoods. Nevertheless, you ask me again where I draw the line on dress. I draw the line at uncovering one’s sexual organ, male and/or female. I actually have no personal objection to total nudity, but in repressed American society, with have attached so much baggage to nudity, that it is not possible. This doesn’t mean I would go around nude myself, no one wants to se me naked. however, we make far too much of dress in this country and our sexual repression has bred many prurient minds, with a propensity for becoming aroused inappropriately.

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