Wondering where the money is coming from for our three wars, including the over $1 billion for the latest war in Libya? Well, as we spend billions on the wars (including one for an oil-rich nation which has refused to re-pay any of the costs), the White House is slashing domestic programs. A good comparison is that the cost to date of the Libyan war is basically what Congress is about to cut from the budget of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The cuts from Congress are above those asked by the Administration. Trillions of cuts are being worked out in light of budget shortfalls.
Hundreds of millions will be cut from the Joint Polar Satellite System, a reorganized satellite system and hundreds of millions more will be cut from NOAA’s Operations, Research and Facilities budget. NOAA is already a lean organization with an expanding mission. Other countries are increasing oceanic and weather monitoring to protect lives and property. However, with yet another war launched by President Obama, we can hardly be tossing away money on the environment and science while tossing cruise missiles at Tripoli.
Source: Science Mag
kderosa,
“CDOs aren’t bad in and of themselves.”
It was what was done with CDOs and some other derivatives.
Knives aren’t bad in and of themselves either–but when you start stabbing people with them you know what you’re doing is wrong.
K, I have not backed off squat. I do see your reading comprehension needs some polishing, but nothing new there.
I am running late for appointments, so am not going to get into further dialogue with you. Go ahead and do what you always do; declare how you are victorious on the field of ideas and change the subject.
@Blouise
Good try at sucking up. But even OS has backed off his original claim about NASA and/or the “early space program” funded the initial development of the IC. NASA Came into the picture much later because it needed IC’s for the space program after they’d been initially developed.
This is like saying the American people are responsible for developing the ipad because they bought millions of them and that money went to further development.
Otteray Scribe,
I realize a troll’s purpose is to disrupt but there are times when their “brown eyes are blue” routine gets old. It’s like listening to a 14 year high school freshman girl assert that the senior quarterback wants to date her because he admires her mind.
No matter what you wrote, OS, no matter how deep your education and experience, kderosa stubbornly maintains his/her erroneous position … foolish freshman.
Next he/she will be telling us that the CD-Rom was invented by Phillips and Sony rather than James Russell while he was working at Pacific Northwest Labs for the Energy Dept. and NASA in the late ’60’s. Russel may have invented the CD-ROM because he wanted a better music experience but NASA saw the benefit for its computers and voila … Sony and Phillips simply purchased a license in the late 70’s … NASA and the Dept. of Energy helped fund the original and the resulting developmental research. Everybody knows that and knows the CD-Rom literally changed the world.
kderosa,
I wasn’t referring to anything as recent as the Revere thread, and, the dead horse was your nit-picking O.S. but staying within the “herd” metaphor … it is so tiresome to have to explain every nuance … most posters have an ear for the pitch (musical reference which, [sigh], means catch the meaning) but if playing clueless is part of this resurrection then who am I to suggest a key change.
I really liked the inmates/soldiers of fortune personages … especially the guy who was always getting wasted
Gyges,
True that about the canned food, although the Napoleonic Wars ended before they perfected the method using cans. Most of the “canned” food shipped during the wars were in jars. What I find really funny about the whole ordeal is that can openers weren’t invented for something like 30 years after the can was perfected. I suspect most of the soldiers initially getting canned food felt a lot like my cats when they see a can of tuna and realize they have no thumbs.
@puzzling grads without jobs results in law schools reviews like these:
http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/
Check the seatback in front of you first.
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Gene,
“Savagely funny”? I like your choice of adjectives.
Thanks for noticing.
Buddha,
Thanks for the complement. I’ll have to say that among the many reasons I chose Eta Carinae, being “on fire” never came to mind. Mainly I picked it for aesthetic reasons. It’s a very pretty stellar event. There were some philosophical reasons as well, but pretty sold the deal. I should also say I’ve really enjoyed your posts too. You’re a rather savagely funny fellow. Jonathan has provided a great forum with his blog and you and the other “Regulars” really give it additional character. I’ve only been reading Jon’s blog for about a week now and I’m completely hooked. It provides some of the most stimulating conversations I’ve seen on the Internet in quite some time. Let me second your “Go, NASA” and I’ll leave it at that.
OS,
Forget computers, the first tin cans were produced for the British army. For that matter canning was invented by a man hoping to win a prize offered by the French Government.
Gene,
Dude, no wonder you picked something like Eta Carinae as an avatar. You are on fire! We have several other science geek types who frequent here. I saw where you’ve met OS, Tony and LK. Keep an eye out for Slartibartfast and Bob, Esq. as well. Slarti is a mathematician and Bob just loves physics. You guys will hit it off just great.
And go, Team NASA!
Nice to see you troll dinks have polluted yet another thread.
Otteray Scribe, for someone who obviously believes he’s a smart guy, you undermine that impression by the manner in which you present your arguments, or rather fail to present them and then rely on some dismissive statement as a substitute. I’ve read lots of arguments and that one, without fail, is never effective or persuasive. Unless, of course, you’re merely trying to preach to the choir. But, really, why waste your time, they don’t need to be convinced? Are you just trying to assuage your ego?
Elaine M asks And when would private industry have been ready?
Whenever the Politicians decreed that it should be so. Perhaps on the 8th day, thus:
@Elaine
I am familiar with it. It hardly deregulated anything. It replaced stupid regulations with even more stupid regulations. ANd it shoehorned the CRA into allowing race-hustling groups to have influence in bank mergers.
The financial sector needs to be regulated. Smartly regulated. It is not smartly regulated. Dumb regulations are the problem, not no regulations. I don’t think that condition has ever existed in this country.
I am busy and do not have time to waste on the willfully ignorant. I have work to do. Good day all.
Roco,
“There is always another side that is not seen.”
Is “what might have been” the other side?
*****
“we just said it would have been created when private industry was ready”
And when would private industry have been ready?
Glass Stegal did nothing to protect people. It was a political response to the problems created by government regulation of the banking industry in the early part of the 20th century.
and the cost would have come down without the research funding by government. It might have even been a better product since it wouldnt have been rushed to get to the moon and defend against the Russians.
There is always another side that is not seen. You should read Bastiat, a brilliant man.
The integrated circuit would never have gotten the boost it did without the space program. It was still a scientific curiosity up until it got some serious boost with the several ICBM projects and the early space program. Costs came down dramatically thanks to research and development funded by the DoD and NASA.