-Submitted by David Drumm (Nal), Guest Blogger
Norwegian television has identified a suspect in the shooting spree on the island Utoya as Anders Behring Breivik, 32, describing him as a member of “right-wing extremist groups in eastern Norway.” The shooting at the youth camp has reportedly resulted in more than 80 deaths.
In his Facebook account, now deleted, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views. He also has a Twitter account with only one tweet, a quote from philosopher John Stuart Mills: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests.”
If the reports are accurate, don’t expect denunciations of right-wing extremism from Fox News. If the event in Norway had been caused by a Muslim, would Fox News classify it as a terrorist attack instead of a massacre by a madman?
Muslim zealots kill, Muslims celebrate and conservative Christians are angry.
Christian zealots kill, lefties gloat. Odd.
How come no one has tied sarah Palin into this one yet, like was attempted with Jared Lee Loughner?
Just sayin’.
Elaine,
Great video link!
Can’t we just get along? This guy is a terrorist of the worst kind…home grown.
@AY What I said was that “You might learn something” which clearly leaves lots of leeway for your failing to understand what you read.
kderosa
1, July 23, 2011 at 4:53 pm
@Ay, maybe you should read the report and confirm the stats. You might learn something and you hopefully make fewer stupid comments.
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Which infers that I am capable of reading and understanding…Don’t you Karozee…..lol
KdBuffon…..This on is so much better……….
@AY
“At least we agree on something…I am capable of reading and understanding…”
I never agreed to that. And your comments belie any such truth in that statement.
Transnational Terrorism, Security & the Rule of Law
20th Century Right Wing Groups in Europe
4 July 2008
Case Study, Work package 3
‘Citizens and governance in a knowledge-based society’
http://www.transnationalterrorism.eu/tekst/publications/Rightwing%20terrorism.pdf
Excerpt:
Although after 9/11 most of the attention shifted from right wing to
Islamist or religious terrorism, according to Europol, right wing terrorism and/or extremism is gaining in importance again (Europol, 2007: 35; Europol, 2008: 43). Evidence for this can be found in the rise in support for right wing political parties across Europe. This case study seeks to determine whether this “third” right wing wave of terrorism, still proceeds next to the religious form.
With regard to the right wing terminology (extremism vs. terrorism) it is
particularly difficult to make a distinction between terrorist acts, political violence and hate crimes. An example of this is the arrests of eleven terrorism suspects, whom were all member of the neo-Nazi organization “Blood & Honour”. In general this is considered a political violent group that is also committing hate crimes. In this case they were arrested for planning a terrorist act and arms trafficking (Europol, 2007: 35).
In their annual report on terrorism, Europol states that right wing violence
is often labeled as extremism instead of terrorism. This is also mentioned by Crenshaw (2003: 4). A similar problem arises when studying the organizations with right wing sympathies that commit those acts. Many academics withhold themselves from making a clear division between the terrorists and non- terrorists. They often use right wing violence as a synonym for right wing terrorism (and vice versa) or do not differ between the two terms (Bjørgo and Witte, 1993: 29-43 and 113-127).
KD,
At least we agree on something…I am capable of reading and understanding…You on the other hand should not be condemned because all you know how to do is cut and paste….That does take some skill….But a chimp could be trained to do what you are doing….I like the name Kedrosa and I will make sure I include chimpanzee in it….
SO here we go: Kedrosa + chimpanzee = Kedrozee…..
RFLMAO….
@erykah, you stay classy now.
I like when you state “It is amazing how we cannot discuss these issues without the usual reductionist left -wing vs. right wing in a wrong headed attempt to gain political points. Terrorism is wrong, plain and simple.”
And then immediately go into adding the “usual reductionist left -wing vs. right wing” rhetoric by focusing only on the few instances of right-wing terrorism.
Also, when you state “Today it is right-wingers. Deal with it.” You must mean literally today, because as the terror reports show, left wingers continue to engage (as in theh past decade) in far more terrorism than right-wingers. Far more. Deal with it.
L, that’s why I added that the trends were consistent through the previous decade as the terror reports show. They are all publicly available, you should take a look. Lots of islamist estremist convictions/acquitals and few actual attacks. This is in contrast to the other terrorist groups which is probably attributable to the increased law enforcement activities directed toward islamist terrorists.
KD– Shut the fuck up. You are stupid and uninformed. It is amazing how we cannot discuss these issues without the usual reductionist left -wing vs. right wing in a wrong headed attempt to gain political points. Terrorism is wrong, plain and simple. We are witnessing White -wing nationalism at its finest or sickest depending on which side of the equation one is on.
I remember the Oklahoma City bombing and how unsettling it was and how unsafe I felt. My knees buckled when I first saw the magnitude of that destruction from my living room television. And though I was miles away from that destruction, the shock I felt was raw and overwhelming. All I could do was pray for those who had been immediately affected and hope to God that they catch the M-fer(s) who did it.
The problem with you right -wing far right fools is that you take shit too far and do not realize the consequences of your extreme rhetoric. You want to blame everything on liberals and never take responsibility for yourselves. Back in the 70s it was left-wing groups such as the Weathermen who were committing acts of domestic terrorism. Today it is right-wingers. Deal with it.
My thoughts and prayers are with the Norwegians. The road to healing will be a slow and tough one. God bless Norway!
Norway gunman fired for 1.5 hours on island
By IAN MacDOUGALL – Associated Press,LOUISE NORDSTROM – Associated Press
http://news.yahoo.com/norway-gunman-fired-1-5-hours-island-170527353.html
Excerpt:
OSLO, Norway (AP) — Police arrived at an island massacre about 1.5 hours after a gunman first opened fire, slowed because they didn’t have quick access to a helicopter and then couldn’t find a boat to make their way to the scene just several hundred yards (meters) offshore. The assailant surrendered when police finally reached him, but 82 people died before that.
Survivors of the shooting spree have described hiding and fleeing into the water to escape the gunman, but a police briefing Saturday detailed for the first time how long the terror lasted — and how long victims waited for help.
The shooting came on the heels of what police told The Associated Press was an “Oklahoma city-type” bombing in Oslo’s downtown: It targeted a government building, was allegedly perpetrated by a homegrown assailant and used the same mix of fertilizer and fuel that blew up a federal building in the U.S. in 1995.
In all, at least 92 people were killed in the twin attacks that police are blaming on the same suspect, 32-year-old Norwegian Anders Behring Breivik.
A SWAT team was dispatched to the island more than 50 minutes after people vacationing at a campground said they heard shooting across the lake, according to Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim. The drive to the lake took about 20 minutes, and once there, the team took another 20 minutes to find a boat.
Footage filmed from a helicopter that showed the gunman firing into the water added to the impression that police were slow to the scene. They chose to drive, Sponheim said, because their helicopter wasn’t on standby.
K, Your rationale regarding time in process may well be correct but by your own rationale then the number of conviction for any group listed does not correspond to the year the attacks were made. One years stats does not an accurate picture make. Just sayn’.
@Ay, maybe you should read the report and confirm the stats. You might learn something and you hopefully make fewer stupid comments.
Just because you can’t add or even pay simple attention to little ole details it is not society’s fault….They do have anger management classes for you….Take advantage of them….We are not out to get you…or at least I am not… But your math sucks worse than the eye of a hurricane…
KD,
Hitting that pipe too often today are you…..Then explain why the numbers are different….Oh..yeah….You can’t….Tin Foil Time….Hope yo mamma don’t find out again….
@AY, you’re being stupid again. Do you think that maybe those four convictions/acquitals may have taken some time to make their way through the court system and might have referred to attacks in pevious years? Let the adults do the thinking, you stick to banging your spoon against your high chair.
Analysis: Questions over far-right link in Norwegian attacks
Reuters
By William Maclean
LONDON | Sat Jul 23, 2011
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/23/us-norway-blast-right-idUSTRE76M09D20110723
Excerpt:
“The next key question is whether he was acting alone, or whether he is part of a group.”
A report by European police agency Europol on security in 2010 said that there was no right-wing terrorism on the continent in that period.
GROWING PROFESSIONALISM
But it added the far right was becoming very professional at producing online propaganda of an anti-Semitic and xenophobic nature and was increasingly active in online social networking.
“Although the overall threat from right-wing extremism appears to be on the wane and the numbers of right-wing extremist criminal offences are relatively low, the professionalism in their propaganda and organization shows that right-wing extremist groups have the will to enlarge and spread their ideology and still pose a threat in EU member states,” it said.
If the unrest in the Arab world, especially in North Africa, leads to a major influx of immigrants into Europe, “right-wing extremism and terrorism might gain a new lease of life by articulating more widespread public apprehension about immigration from Muslim countries into Europe,” it added.
Public manifestations of right-wing extremism can often provoke counter-activity by extreme left-wing groups. Such confrontations invariably result in physical violence.
In May 2010, a far-right supporter was assaulted and knifed in Sweden during a demonstration staged by a white supremacist movement. An activist was arrested on suspicion of aggravated assault and attempted murder.
The Swedish Security Service says on its website that the so-called White Power scene is made up individuals, groups and networks with right-wing extremist views prepared to use violence for political gain.
In a speech in September 2010, Jonathan Evans, the Director-General of Britain’s MI5 Security Service, cited a notorious far-right militant in a passage describing the security outlook for the country.
“Determination can take you a long way and even determined amateurs can cause devastation. The case of the neo-Nazi David Copeland, who attacked the gay and ethnic minority communities with such appalling results in 1999, is a good example of the threat posed by the determined lone bomber.”
Copeland struck three targets in London with nail bombs. Three people were killed and scores were wounded at a gay bar in Soho. It followed attacks against the Muslim community in Brick Lane, east London, and a market in Brixton, south London.
In an unclassified 2011 national security outlook published by the Norway Police Security Service (PST) in February 2011, the service said it saw a picture of “increased uncertainty.”
Part of that was due to what it called an expected increased level of activity in 2011 by far-right militants.
“Norwegian far-right extremists are in contact with Swedish far-right extremists, as well as with other far-right extremist groups in Europe. Contact also takes place between Norwegian and Russian far-right extremists,” it said.
“An increased level of activity among some anti-Islamic groups could lead to increased polarization and unease, especially during, and in connection with, commemorations and demonstrations.”
In Britain, police chiefs and Muslim groups are worried about a rise in attacks by far-right groups, and in 2009 one senior officer, Commander Shaun Sawyer, from London’s counter-terrorism unit, told a meeting of the Muslim Safety Forum that senior officers had increased surveillance of suspects to monitor their ability to stage attacks.
“I fear that they will have a spectacular … They will carry out an attack that will lead to a loss of life or injury to a community somewhere,” he said.
An analysis by Michael Whine, the Government and International Affairs Director at the Community Security Trust, an agency of the UK Jewish community, said the willingness to employ extreme violence in defense of European ‘values’ is apparent in the ideology of several groups, among them the British Patriots of the White European Resistance (POWER), which emerged in 2006, and which claims supporters in Croatia, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Serbia, Switzerland, Slovenia, and Sweden.
He’s got that “Master Race” look and the attendant mannerisms.