Campus Republicans at the University of California Berkeley have reportedly received threats after creating a novel form of protests against California schools considering race in admissions. The students created a sale of baked goods priced according to their race: white men for $2.00, Asian men for $1.50, Latino men for $1.00, black men for $0.75 and Native American men for $0.25. All women will get $0.25 off those prices.
The Associated Students of the University of California, held an emergency Senate meeting late Sunday to pass a resolution that “condemns the use of discrimination whether it is in satire or in seriousness by any student group.”
I have difficulty with a condemnation (and certainly physical threats by some individuals) over satire. There is a good faith disagreement over race criteria in admissions. This group found a way to dramatize the unfairness and arbitrariness of such policies. It is not actual discrimination but a satire to drive home their point. What do you think?
UPDATE: if the bake sale was not a hit with some people as a political idea, it proved a great marketing ideal. The bake sale sold out.
Source: CNN
Mespo:
I have had no advantages in life except being born in America. Give me your office email address and I will tell you about my “advantaged” life.
Is it too late to point out that not only is it cliche , but it’s cliche and makes absolutely no sense?
In order to be a good analog for the policies they’re protesting, they’d need to sell based on a quota system.
The only thing worse then telling the same joke over and over again is telling a joke that makes no sense over and over again.
Roco, Lovers, never. The man has never even bought me a cup of coffee. We are both married and I am faithful to my loving husband.
Roco:
“Yeah, you guys operate from principles alright. The principle of using some one else’s money for your delusions of grandeur.”
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Well, certainly no grandeur in your “every man for himself” jungle. Tell you what, why don’t you count up every advantage you’ve had by race, socio-economic status, education, and family position, and then explain why in view of all of that society owes you the same starting point as somone’s without those advantages. In golf we call it giving a handicap; in football, it’s the first draft pick; in life, it’s affirmative action, and anyone who can’t make it home from third base after being put there by circumstances not under their control and for which they deserve no praise has no reason to complain if they get lapped by someone who ran harder. There is no equality of outcome in this country. A drive through any Rust Belt inner city will tell you that, or maybe just a cursory look at poverty statistics. We’re looking for equality of opportunity, my falsely put upon friend, and letting you start at Lap 50 in the 100 lap race because your Daddy got you there will not get us to a society that will survive. See Revolution, French.
Roco, Well, it happened on the blog for everyone that reads it to see. What can I say? Some people manage to stay friends by not discussing politics and religion, but that does not happen here.
paper hanger, You are so wrong. I made a decision not to discredit him and do no harm.
Swarthmore mom:
Obviously you have your reasons. I just thought you and Ay were pretty decent people and I am sorry you are on the outs.
We were friends once but not any more. Sometimes it takes awhile to get to know someone especially if you only see them in cyberspace. Don’t be too sad, Roco. It is for the best.
anon.
“So it’s my speech here at this forum that oppresses others. That should make it easy for you to find a few comments where I support policies that oppress other people…. But yes, if you’re going to use language calling me an oppressor, you ought to put up or shut up and give us all some real citations. ”
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Nice try there, anon. Since you don’t give any consistent identifier on the blog, as I requested, there is no way to pin down the real “you” or “your comments.” However, not wishing to pass up the challenge to prove your real mind-set, I’ll just submit this little ditty you ostensibly penned today:
“Therapists have tended to kick me out and tell me that after all the money they spent, they dislike my takedowns of their education and philosophies … Got into a nice shouting match with one….”
What I find so revealing is not your bellicose personality (anyone here knows that), it’s that you refer to your “therapists” and not just your therapist. I get it now, you’re an equal opportunity crank and you need affirmation of that fact from many sources. Keep up the good work.
Paper Hanger:
probably a lovers quarrel of some sort.
My best guess. That coin of love on the obverse and hate on the reverse.
It is actually rather sad to see them bickering, I thought they used to get along quite well. It always saddens me when people argue. Especially when they appeared to be friends once.
I guess ideology trumps friendship for some people. Very sad.
AY,
I have been watching this go on between you and stradavore for awhile. I agree with your posting and think that you are generally humorous. Just be careful not to offend the others on here. Her goal seems to be to discredit you in any way, shape, form or fashion. I do not know why she seems to have a bug on you, but it is what it is.
Now……anon…..Don’t be so coy..Only you know if it was you or it was not…Others can think all they want….But you know….and I know….You know…
I don’t think you are the Irish lady of that other one with the V. in the name. You who you are, anon.
anon,
I am good with your explanation….Only, if I did not get tagged with them…I wouldn’t care…but then again…I don’t really….
Therapists have tended to kick me out and tell me that after all the money they spent, they dislike my takedowns of their education and philosophies and techniques, and think I’m especially ill-mannered to point out their hidden biases even in the “objective”, “neutral” stances.
Got into a nice shouting match with one. She was a born again Christian marriage counselor — definitely not the right match for a Jewish couple (even divorced). She agreed with my ex that it was unnatural and inappropriate for me to give my six year old daughter a shoulder ride in the social hall of the synagogue during a simcha.
Anyway, I’ve always been impressed with therapists, it’s the ultimate do nothing job. Sit down, stoned or drunk, behind their “client” and doodle away on pads that no one will ever see all while wearing their diapers.
You are in need of therapy….for those that have heard it…I’ll spare them…. So how many nom de plumes do you acquire in a day….
Only this one. I’m not the Irish Lady (I don’t think) and I don’t know what that was referring to. And I’m not “A. Moral V”.
Though part of me feels I shouldn’t fess up to who I’m not in order to help buttress the importance of anonymity in discourse.
So maybe I am them (but I’m not.) (really)
Sorry, Don’t wear mom jeans. Get my jeans at Barney’s.
anon,
You are in need of therapy….for those that have heard it…I’ll spare them…. So how many nom de plumes do you acquire in a day….
I seem to get blamed….more than my share….but it is funny…Are you the Irish Lady….
Ouch, that hurt. Hurt so much I contemplated posting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URYZVsEZE8M&feature=related
But I’m not one to hit low, so instead I’ll go with
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdEwIwGsqqw&feature=related
However, you’ll probably have the last word if you want it, as I have a doctor’s appointment (mysterious hair growth on my palms.)
Yet another name. I liked that Irish lady better.