-Submitted by David Drumm (Nal), Guest Blogger
“Dr.” Melissa Clouthier (left) isn’t happy with some of the female attendees at CPAC 2012. The Dr. is in quotes because Clouthier is an alternative health “doctor” and part-time chiropractor. That is, a woo-meister, who thinks “Feng Shui makes lots of sense.”
Clouthier has some tips for women who wish to succeed in business or politics.
1. No cleavage. That’s right. Cover that up. I say “no” in absolutist terms because women will show a tiny bit and that’s okay, but really, in a business environment where ideas are the priority, a dude thinking about your ta-tas is counter-productive.
Ta-tas? How can anyone take someone who says ta-tas seriously?
2. Skirts no more than three finger-widths above the knee. Why do I even have to write this? Well, because someone is allowing these girls out of the house with mini-skirts that reveal too much.
That’s right, someone else is to blame for “allowing” these girls to dress like that. Those poor girls are just victims of someone else’s negligence.
3. Save the stilettos for Saturday night on a date with your boyfriend.
How does being on a date with your boyfriend remove the sluttiness from wearing stilettos? The girl has already attracted her boyfriend, the stilettos aren’t for him.
4. Bend at the knee. No, I don’t want to see your butt.
Why is Clouthier looking at girls’ butts?
It makes perfect sense for a female to attract as many potential mates as possible, she wants to have as large a group as she can from which to make her selection. It is the females of most species who make the sexual selection. The males compete to win the female’s favors. It is one of the female’s strategies for reproductive success. These are the gender roles conservative culture warriors fight so hard to maintain.
H/T: Blue Texan.
Nal,
Just out of curiosity, is there a reason that you didn’t use quotation marks, since you were using Clothier’s word?
AY,
Some pretty thick skin here… 😉
Nal,
Thanks.
“The title was meant to be provocative, enticing the reader to peruse the rest of the post.” It is (provocative) and it does (entice).
“As should be clear from the post, I disagree with Clouthier’s classification of these women.”
Abundantly clear to those who read your postings (and comments) regularly.
I used Clouthier’s word. The title was meant to be provocative, enticing the reader to peruse the rest of the post. As should be clear from the post, I disagree with Clouthier’s classification of these women.
AY,
😉
AN,
When there was a Buddha and I am not saying there is not….It was stated something like this….He woke up just to Harass and I awakened jut to annoy….I know I got at least part of the above right….
I do wonder if you can be arrested for solicitation in Seattle if you get into an unregistered taxi…. As it is call the SLUTaxi….
SLUTS….
If I recall SLUT stands for South Lake Union Trolley….It is in Seattle, WA….. Its ok to say to the driver can you slow down this slut…won’t do any good…but you can always try…….
But another use of a SLUT is the one you drive…..Sports Large Utility Trucks….Think Cadillac Escalade…or Chevy Avalanche….that is the cheap slut….still expensive to drive….You see them all over…
There are so many uses for the term SLUT…..why would anyone really be offended….
Correction:
Personally, I wouldn’t have it… should have been
Personally, I wouldn’t have used the word in the title, but this isn’t my article and it’s not my blog.
The author has the perfect right to choose his own words, however objectionable I might find them… And it’s not as if he pulled the word out of thin air… (clarification for Karl)
Nal,
Thanks for the clarification and additional information.
I missed the following link in your posting:
CPAC: The Jersey Shore-ification Of Our Young People
February 14, 2012 / 11:09 am
By Dr. Melissa Clouthier
http://melissablogs.com/2012/02/14/cpac-the-jersey-shore-ification-of-our-young-people/
In her article, she refers to an Erick Erickson “must-read piece” (her phrase) which follows:
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/02/14/cpac-not-quite-like-the-media-matters-communications-room-but-still-grow-up/
Melissa Clouthier:
Those who “slut-it-up” are those CPAC women who didn’t follow Clouthier’s four points.
@anon nurse, As you were one of the first to raise objection to the use of the term “sluts”, but now appear to come back and see it as justified
Karl,
Let me be clear — I don’t see the use of the word as “justified”, as you say. Personally, I wouldn’t have it…
I posted the text of Ms. Clouthier’s remarks, for clarification — there’s nothing like hearing it from the horse’s mouth (and seeing statements in context.) I was trying to figure out the origin of the term “sluts” in the context of this posting.
As to whether or not Ms. Clouthier referred to CPAC women, specifically, as “sluts” isn’t clear. Having said this, she clearly used the words “sluts” and “two-bit whores” in describing certain women and girls.
Now we can further dissect further Ms. Clouthier’s words, but I don’t have the time or interest in doing so today. From my vantage point, they pretty much speak for themselves.
Karl,
Would you please diagram your last two sentences, directed to anon nurse?
The first sentence was about 60 words, with an unmatched parenthesis.
The second, an attempt to clarify the first, was over 40 words. Too many clauses. I can’t follow them.
Try several, short sentences?
Thanks!
“Second, have women so internalized feminist dogma that they see themselves in only two ways? Butch, men-lite wannabes or 3rd wave sluts who empower themselves by screwing every available horndog man?”
A question was presented, followed by two ends of the spectrum that serve as examples. Ms. Clouthier did not call the women attending the CPAC “sluts”. The person calling them “sluts” is David Drumm, an agent of Professor Jonathan Turley.
@anon nurse, As you were one of the first to raise objection to the use of the term “sluts”, but now appear to come back and see it as justified (due to the word being used when identifying opposite ends of the spectrum, after a question was presented; Will you accept that same justification to be applied in all other instances? In other words; If I quote a question presented by someone else, and show that person to have followed with examples, will you permit me to assert that the person doing so was attributing the label to those in the intended audience?
Thanks for the facts anon nurse.
It was Melissa Clouthier who used the term “sluts” to describe certain CPAC women.
What follows are some of Melissa Clouthiers comments:
“Women will be future leaders, too, and I was dismayed to see how many of them either looked frumpish or like two-bit whores.
First, are these young people being taught anything by their parents? I was at another service-oriented gathering of young women where the girls were in tight bandeau-skirts (you know, the kind of tube-top skirts that hookers wear on street corners?). They were sitting with their mothers. What is going on here?
Second, have women so internalized feminist dogma that they see themselves in only two ways? Butch, men-lite wannabes or 3rd wave sluts who empower themselves by screwing every available horndog man?”
— Melissa Clouthier’s words, to be clear
Mike I’m just piling on to what Nal started.
“People who call women sluts because of their sexuality are hypocritical patriarchists.”
Nals title is “The Sluts Of CPAC”
I can only deduce that Nal is characterizing some women of CPAC as sluts based on what Dr. Melissa Clouthier has written although I’ve read his links and find no mention or inference of who she writes about as being sluts. So if you find people who call women hypocritical patriarchates then you must feel this way about Nal.
As I stated
“Yeah I don’t think the professor would approve of the title but what the heck lets run with it.”
This after Anon Nurse even questioned it
““Slut?” Help me out here… I’m nearly speechless.”
To which I replied
“The word slut is just demeaning to all women. Kinda like calling Whitney Huston a crack ho.”
Maybe you should talk to Nal first.
Mike, sorry about your Mom….I credit chiropractic with my mobility. I think it has come a long long ways especially in recent history. Studies of acupuncture and GOOD chiroprctic practice show more whoopee than woo.
OT (sortof…)
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/02/18-5
A brief, instructive history of chiropractic. As a note of my possible negative perspective towards it, my mother went to one in the 1950’s who held out the possibility of ameliorating her desperate cardiac problems and wound up hospitalized for months with a bad slipped disc. Since I was about ten at the time her absence weighed heavily on me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chiropractic
We have a retired chiropractor who talks to us here at the dolphin base. He says he is NOT a doctor of medicine because he is a doctor of health and that there is a difference. Ever heard of a person OD from a back rub? People with real pain flock to chiropractors because they do a good job. People who are drug addicts flock to Doctors of Medicine to lie and get drugs so that they can get a buzz. Buzz Doctors. Dr. Bachus tells us to wiggle more when we swim and to arch our backs when we play the bow crossing game with pleasure boats in the harbour. My mate Ike has cured his back problems listening to this talk.
Mamie
TalkinDolphins, sittin in for TalkinDog
Bdaman,
Seriously? First of all I find your slut humor more than offensive and trust me both my sexual liberalism and my knowledge of obscenity far exceeds yours. People who call women sluts because of their sexuality are hypocritical patriarchists. We know this because rampant male sexuality has no comparable terms and is in fact viewed/accepted by the average male as a given.
Secondly, your barrage of smutty humor was merely an attempt to divert from any serious discussion of CPAC misogyny. Your definitely are a faithful follower cum protector of your conservative cause. You sure you’re not on the Koch payroll?
raff,
Yes there is move to Culpepper, VA…