There is a surprising story out of Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania that seems the perfect storm of religious tensions. You begin with Ernie Perce, an atheist who marched as a zombie Mohammad in the Mechanicsburg Halloween parade. Then you add Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim who stepped off a curb and reportedly attacked Perce for insulting the Prophet. Then you have a judge (Judge Mark Martin) who threw out the criminal charges against Elbayomy and ridiculed the victim, Perce. The Judge identifies himself as a Muslim and says that Perce conduct is not what the First Amendment is supposed to protect. [UPDATE: The judge says he is not a Muslim despite what is heard by most listeners on the tape. That being the case, the criticism of the comments remains.] [UPDATE2: Perce has responded to our blog and denied many of the factual representations made by Judge Martin].
Perce is the American Atheists’ Pennsylvania State Director and marched with other atheists, including one dressed as a creepy Pope. Here is the tape of the incident:
Perce says that Elbayomy grabbed him and tried to take his sign. Elbayomy was at the parade with his wife and children and said that he felt he had to act in the face of the insult. The officer at the scene, Sgt. Brian Curtis, correctly concluded that Perce was engaged in a lawful, first amendment activity. He therefore charged Elbayomy. While it looks like an assault, he was only charged with harassment.
The case, however, then went to District Judge Mark Martin who not only threw out the charge of harassment but ridiculed Perce as a “doofus.” He also proceeds to not only give an account of his own feelings (and say that he was offended personally by Perce’s action) but suggests that Elbayomy was just protecting his “culture.” The judge not only points to the Koran in the courtroom but his time in Muslim countries as relevant to his deliberations. Putting aside the problem of ruling in a case where you admit you have strong personal feelings, the lecture given on the first amendment is perfectly grotesque from a civil liberties perspective.
Here is part of the hearing transcript:
Well, having had the benefit of having spent over two-and-a-half years in predominantly Muslim countries, I think I know a little bit about the faith of Islam. In fact, I have a copy of the Quran here, and I would challenge you, Sir, to show me where it says in the Quran that Muhammad arose and walked among the dead. I think you misinterpreted a couple of things. So before you start mocking somebody else’s religion, you might want to find out a little more about it. It kind of makes you look like a doofus. …
In many other Muslim-speaking countries, err, excuse me, many Arabic-speaking countries, predominantly Muslim, something like this is definitely against the law there, in their society. In fact, it could be punished by death, and frequently is, in their society.
Here in our society, we have a Constitution that gives us many rights, specifically First Amendment rights. It’s unfortunate that some people use the First Amendment to deliberately provoke others. I don’t think that’s what our forefathers intended. I think our forefathers intended to use the First Amendment so we can speak with our mind, not to piss off other people and cultures – which is what you did.
I don’t think you’re aware, Sir, there’s a big difference between how Americans practice Christianity – I understand you’re an atheist – but see Islam is not just a religion. It’s their culture, their culture, their very essence, their very being. They pray five times a day toward Mecca. To be a good Muslim before you die, you have to make a pilgrimage to Mecca, unless you’re otherwise told you cannot because you’re too ill, too elderly, whatever, but you must make the attempt. Their greeting is ‘Salam alaikum, wa-laikum as-Salam,’ uh, ‘May God be with you.’
Whenever it is very common, their language, when they’re speaking to each other, it’s very common for them to say, uh, Allah willing, this will happen. It’s, they’re so immersed in it. And what you’ve done is, you’ve completely trashed their essence, their being. They find it very, very, very offensive. I’m a Muslim. I find it offensive. I find what’s on the other side of this [sign] very offensive. But you have that right, but you are way outside your bounds of First Amendment rights. …
I’ve spent about seven years living in other countries. When we go to other countries, it’s not uncommon for people to refer to us as ‘ugly Americans.’ This is why we hear it referred to as ‘ugly Americans,’ because we’re so concerned about our own rights, we don’t care about other people’s rights. As long as we get our say, but we don’t care about the other people’s say.
The judge’s distorted view of the first amendment was magnified by Elbayomy’s counsel, R. Mark Thomas who called this lecture “a good dressing down by the judge. The so-called victim was the antagonist and we introduced evidence that clearly showed his attitude toward Muslims. The judge didn’t do anything I wouldn’t have done if I was in that position.”
I fail to see the relevance of the victim’s attitude toward Muslims or religion generally. He had a protected right to walk in the parade and not be assaulted for his views. While the judge laments that “[i]t’s unfortunate that some people use the First Amendment to deliberately provoke others,” that is precisely what the Framers had in mind if Thomas Paine is any measure.
Notably, reports indicate that Elbayomy called police because he thought it was a crime to be disrespectful to Muhammed. The judge appears to reference this by noting that in some countries you can be put to death for such an offense. Those countries are called oppressive countries. This is a free country where it is not a crime to insult someone’s religion — despite a counter-trend in some Western countries.
I also do not see how the judge believes that he has the authority to tell a religious critic that “before you start mocking somebody else’s religion, you might want to find out a little more about it.” Let alone call a person a “doofus” because he opposes religion.
To make matters worse, the judge is reportedly threatening Perce with contempt for posting the audio of the hearing.
The reference to the cultural motivations for assaulting Perce seems to raise a type of cultural defense. I have spent years discussing this issue with state and federal judges on the proper role of culture in criminal and civil cases. This is not a case where I would view that defense as properly raised. There are certainly constitutional (and yes cultural) norms that must be accepted when joining this Republic. One is a commitment to free speech. If culture could trump free speech, the country would become the amalgamation of all extrinsic cultures — protecting no one by protecting everyone’s impulses. Those countries referenced by the court took a different path — a path away from civil liberties and toward religious orthodoxy. It is a poor example to raise except as an example of what we are not. The fact that this man may have formed his views in such an oppressive environment does not excuse his forcing others to adhere to his religious sentiments.
Martin’s comments also heighten concerns over the growing trend toward criminalizing anti-religious speech in the use of such standards as the Brandenburg test, a position supported by the Obama Administration.
There are legitimate uses of the culture defense. However, when it comes to free speech, that is not just our controlling constitutional right but the touchstone of our culture.
I can understand the judge’s claims of conflicting testimony on the crime –though it seems to be that the officer’s testimony and the tape would resolve those doubts. However, I view this as an extremely troubling case that raises serious questions of judicial temperament, if not misconduct.
Source: ABC
Personally, I agree with the judge. Dude was an idiot for dressing like that.
Clearly this is a travesty of justice: such prejudice and ignorance should not be allowed to occur-surely within American Law checks are in place?
This is deeply disturbing. That judge should be fired immediately. It’s essential that Americans ridicule Islam, Christianity and all other religions as much as possible. That costume was mild stuff. We need to stand up for our rights as atheists and responsible citizens to fight the mental illness of religion.
RUSS, please, spend a few bucks for English lessons.
If you can’t see the stark contrast between shouting fire in a theater and annoying a person on the street then perhaps finally getting that GED might in order?
“why would you have the right to knowly cause distress!”
Seriously? That’s your question? Tell me, RUSS, what is distress?
Is it having your religious deity mocked, or is it finding cream in your coffee when you ordered black? Perhaps it’s both? Or is there a line? If so then by all means, enlighten me as to where that line lies. Well, perhaps it’s best that we all say and do nothing for fear of causing distress. So lets all sit down, shut up, and stare straight ahead. And whatever you do, don’t fart on the bus.
“You don’t have the right to yell fire in a crowded movie theater, why would you have the right to knowly cause distress!”
That is a nonsensical analogy. Yelling fire in a crowded place is forbidden because people could get severely injured or killed, not because it offends some religious guy who might throw a hissy fit.
When serving Jury Duty, you will inevitably get asked and/or reminded by by the Judge that you need to be able to make a decision based solely on the Law and not on our own interpretation or personal beliefs.
This is called being unbiased.
What a double standard. How DARE a judge bring his own beliefs and feelings and interpretations into a ruling, let alone insult the defendant. He should be removed from office, fined, and a complaint lodged with State Bar.
However, that said, knowing that you live among religious extremists that believe depicting Mohammed in any form is legitimate reason to kill you, you may want to rethink your garb.
HHH, 🙂
In some countries cannibalism was the cultural norm for thousands of years, I can see boat loads of south seas cannibals heading straight for Pennsylvania with extra big pots for cooking fat americans ;D
No law gives any human being the right to harm another person for any reason in the U.S. except in self defense. But I guess if the judge thinks it’s ok,then excuse me as I go sacrifice my child on an alter.
This means you can harass people as long as the judge shares your prejudicial views…next we will be able to beat and kill people, as long as the judge agrees that it is ok. This judge did not provide an impartial ruling and needs to go find some new work. The law says you don’t get to harass anyone for ANY REASON.
I am not a muslium. And I do believe that the attacker should be charged. That being said, I really hope he got in a few good punches and that if he could have 30 minutes alone with that “guy” he would (I’m sure) gladly serve thirty day in jail! (and I would too!). He was wearing the “custom” to incite not for fun. You don’t have the right to yell fire in a crowded movie theater, why would you have the right to knowly cause distress!
At a Halloween party? This was a party/parade, not a random event. Do gay people beat up a man who dresses as a woman at a Halloween party?
Great. Does this mean I can beat up muslims who are dressed as zombie Christopher Hitchens?
Does it also mean Christians are allowed to assault Seth MacFarlane for all the Jesus jokes in Family guy?
Why Isn’t The Judge’s Photo In This Article??? People must be held accountable and when those in power do major violations such as this their photo should always be PROMINENT!!!!!!!!!
I agree with the judge. This guy is both a doofus and an asshole. There are other ways to fight for freedom FROM religion without going out of your way to insult and inflame people and hopefully this fool will find one. What an idiot.
He didn’t go out of his way and it wasn’t a random protest. It was a Halloween party where adults and kids were all dressed up in costumes in a party atmosphere. There was also someone dressed up as a zombie Pope, but this guy dressed as a zombie Muhammad was the only one that was assaulted.
“I don’t think you’re aware, Sir, there’s a big difference between how Americans practice Christianity – I understand you’re an atheist – but see Islam is not just a religion. It’s their culture, their culture, their very essence, their very being.”
Okay 1) this judge has a very poor grasp on how fundamentalist Americans practice their Christianity and 2) his implication that Christians have restraint and common sense, while Muslims are so completely defined by their religion that they are compelled to violently attack blasphemers, doesn’t speak well of him. Does he really think he is respecting Islam by giving Muslims a blanket excuse for religiously motivated violence?
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. 18 USC 2381.
Im calling them all day and complaining about this traitor!Cumberland County (09)
District Court: 09-3-05
Mark W. Martin
Barclay Building
507 North York Street
Mechanicsburg, PA 17055
Phone: 717-766-4575
Fax: 717-766-2238