Congressional Malpractice

Respectfully submitted by Lawrence Rafferty (rafflaw)-Guest Blogger

It seems that you can’t go anywhere on the Internet and not read an attack on the EPA by a Republican member of Congress. The HillMcClatchey    Unfortunately, I was not surprised how many of the Republican Congressmen were attacking the EPA and its attempts to control and eliminate air pollution.  However, I was surprised by how many of those Congressmen were physicians.

“What would you think if your physician told you, “Keep smoking because quitting would kill tobacco and health care jobs.” Or, “Don’t take your high blood pressure medicine, you can’t afford it.” And, “Don’t lose weight, no one has proven obesity is bad for you.”  That’s exactly the quality of medical advice we are getting from the 18 Republican physicians currently serving in Congress. Some of the most well known are the father and son team of Rep. Ron Paul and Sen. Rand Paul, and Sen. Tom Coburn. Almost all of these physician/Congressmen have been key soldiers in the Republican war on the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), calling it a “job killer,” pronouncing relevant health science “unproven,” claiming we “can’t afford” their regulations.”  Truthout 

The “unproven” science that claims that air pollution is deadly comes from over 2,000 medical studies is significant in its numbers and content.  “In the last ten years, over 2,000 scientific studies published in the mainstream medical literature have revealed that air pollution has much of the same physiologic and disease consequence as first- and second-hand cigarette smoke.(1, 2) Those studies show that just as there is no safe number of cigarettes a person can smoke, there is no safe level of air pollution a person can breathe. Even pollution at “background” levels still causes health consequences, including increased mortality rates.(3, 4)” Dr. Brian Moench

Dr. Moench’s Truthout article provides a plethora of citations to studies that confirm the need for and importance of taking the steps that the EPA has outlined in its August, 2010 report titled, “The Benefits and Costs of the Clean Air Act, 1990-2020”.  EPA  I guess some people can deny the science behind the studies and the EPA report.  We have seen the climate change deniers put ear plugs in their ears when legitimate and voluminous studies are presented.  Maybe I am naive, but I cannot understand how medical doctors can claim that we can’t afford the regulations needed to save lives of adults and children.

Over 1,800 medical doctors, nurses and health care professionals signed a letter to Congress imploring the Congressional members to honor the original intent of the Clean Air Act and allow science to trump politics by implementing the needed regulations to save lives.  “The result is saved lives and improved quality of life for millions of Americans. But the job is not finished. Communities across the nation still suffer from poor air quality. Low income families face the impacts of toxic air pollution every day. From smog causing asthma attacks to toxic mercury harming children’s neurological development, far too many people face a constant threat from the air they breathe and the impacts of climate change. Please fulfill the promise of clean, healthy air for all Americans to breathe. Support full implementation of the Clean Air Act and resist any efforts to weaken, delay or block progress toward a healthier future for all Americans.” Lung.org

As someone who has Asthma, this fight to allow for the full implementation of the Clean Air Act has special meaning.  I can only hope that Congress, including the Doctors who are in Congress will hear the call to do whatever is necessary to save lives. Politics should never get in the way of common sense and achievable changes and improvements in the air that we breathe.

Do you believe in the science behind the Clean Air Act and if not, where is the science to refute the claims of over 2,000 studies from all over the globe?  Is there any health issue that can trump the vitriolic politics of our time?  As quoted above, the original Clean Air Act and its amendments enjoyed bipartisan support.  Why can’t that same bipartisan support be found for the full implementation of the Clean Air Act knowing it will save lives and create jobs?  How many more must die or suffer before political gain is put aside?

 

 

 

178 thoughts on “Congressional Malpractice”

  1. Elaine, the deniers want to use simple models for complex structures.

    Here’s the simple and it comes from the experts. Bdaman didn’t make it up, the experts did. So if you want to complain that it’s simple talk to the experts.

    Adding CO2 to the atmosphere will increase global temperatures. 350ppm is the upper limit of the so called safe zone. It was originally 450ppm until James Hansen said that he overstated that number and decreased it to 350ppm. See the website 350.org.

    We are now approaching 400ppm and there has been no warming for the last 15 years. Not only has there not been any increase in temperature, there has been no increase in the number of hurricanes. In fact, we are in the longest stretch in recorded hurricane history without a major hurricane strike on the United States well over 2000 days.This breaks the previous record set in the 1900’s. World wide tropical cyclone activity remains at 30 years lows,four years in a row. On top of that, Sea level rise has stopped and has been decreasing for the last three years. Additionally Arctic Sea Ice is increasing. There has been no increase in the amount of tornado’s, droughts, floods etc.etc.

    Those are the facts. I can’t help that you people are in denial of the facts. I find it quite amusing that on a attorney’s blog people don’t want to argue facts. Instead you would rather attack the witness. Whats the old saying if you can argue the facts argue the facts and if you cant then argue he law. If you can’t do either discredit the witness.

  2. Elaine, the deniers want to use simple models for complex structures. As a scientist, I shudder at the simplistic explanations and cherry picking of data. That kind of thing would get you fired if you did it in a real academic setting. No respectable professional journal would touch that kind of toxic reasoning.

  3. Say what you want im laughing about it because not one person can prive with the actual factual data that hurricaned,typhoons,tornadoes,droughts,floods,earthquakes etc,etc are increasing along with the fact that there has been no warming for the last 15 years. I challenge anyone and everyone to show me any of the abive is increasing including sea level and the melting of the Arctic in spite of CO2 near 400 ppm.

  4. Bdaman,

    Vince Treacy isn’t the only person who is bored with you and your climate change denial and birther arguments. I am also tired of your tripe–and the way you cherry-pick comments made by others in your calculated attempt to question our veracity and/or knowledge. You post a small portion of a previous discussion and present it as the whole story. Sometimes we respond with silence because arguing with you is futile. We can lead you to water–but we can’t make you drink. You prefer the right-wing corporate Kool-aid to H2O.

  5. Bron 1, March 14, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Mike:

    first of all, for the record, I love clean air and water. I love to fish and there is nothing better than fresh fish cooked in an old iron skillet on the side of a lake or river. Hopefully one that doesnt have harmful chemicals or elements in their flesh.

    Secondly, I have many solutions to problems except you refuse to see them because of your mindset. You accuse me of being up the asses of industrialists … [diversion to canard Marxism] …
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    You can’t have those things you want if you don’t stop what is destroying those things. Unless you imbibe heavily of the intoxicants in denialism.

    The people you listen to, the source of your “knowledge“, will remove that from you, because God told them “the Earth is your bitch to do with as you please.”

    Problem with that is the Earth is a “feminazi” who will tear you, your state, and your nation, including everyone you love, limb from limb, if you keep that shit up.

  6. Bdaman 1, March 14, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Dredd it is fact that theres been no statistical warming for the last 15 years. Ti deny that is absurd. Phil Jones the head of the Climatic Reearch Unit is on record stating no statistical warming for the last 15 years.
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    … “statistical warming” … now there is a new Ben & Jerry flava for chillin’ ice cream cone head statistical deniers.

    That means obviously that the Earth is warming because everyone knows it, b b b but it is not “statistical” in its warming.

    Gotta have statistical if ya wanna dance wid Bdaman, who can boogie down baby.

    Don’t wanna dance with you Bdaman, because the ideology you puke out so frivolously kills millions of children, now, as well as in the non-global-flat earth, non-global-flat liner future.

    Your mom’s death, nor my mom’s death, merits that kind of fear in us.

    What Mike S said.

  7. I tried to explain that to Ms. Elaine with a link to the Dailmail then she attacked by saying the Dailymail is owned by some right winger so the information could not be trusted. When I provided the same info but linked to the BBC there was scilence. So let me repeat it for you. FACT, THERE HAS BEEN NO STATISTICAL WARMING FOR THE LAST 15 years. The sattelite record shows this. If you dont believe that then you and others are now the deniers.

  8. Mike:

    first of all, for the record, I love clean air and water. I love to fish and there is nothing better than fresh fish cooked in an old iron skillet on the side of a lake or river. Hopefully one that doesnt have harmful chemicals or elements in their flesh.

    Secondly, I have many solutions to problems except you refuse to see them because of your mindset. You accuse me of being up the asses of industrialists, OK. You are up the asses of workers and you sound like Vladimir Lenin in his letter to the American Working Man. We all know how well the old Soviet Union worked out and what a workers paradise it was. Pardon me if I think working men and women deserve more out of life.

    http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/aug/20.htm

    As I pointed out on another thread where there is prosperity there are high wages. And if government would quit printing money there would be better spending power. Real wages doubled in the 19th century. I dont like human misery and suffering which is why I am a capitalist.

    I think you can have it all, a low tax rate, high wages, good jobs and a social safety net for those who cannot work. But the powers that be (on both sides) refuse to relinquish their power. I think you [progressives] do far more to keep the elite you bitch about in power than people who think like me. You make it easy for them to retain their power because you give them “moral” power and control of the purse and they dispense “their” goodies [which are actually the people’s goodies (tax dollars) wrapped in a different package but most people are too ignorant of economics or too greedy to figure that out or admit it].

    Nothing wrong with selling some of the millions of acres of government owned land, government has no business owning hundreds of millions of acres. They ought to have a lottery of all the citizens or just give people who want some land a few acres. Then the people could decide if they wanted to keep it or sell it. I would say keep the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Yellowstone and other similar spectacular parks public. But I have been to the north slope and it isnt all that great.

    Progressives always want it their way and for the most part you have had it your way for the last century. This is a new century and the tired old ideas of the past just dont cut it anymore. Time to get back to true liberalism instead of just high jacking the word and distorting the concept.

    You should read the early works of John Stuart Mill on economics, really interesting stuff.

    1. “This is a new century and the tired old ideas of the past just dont cut it anymore”

      Bron couldn’t agree more, but your solutions are the “tired old ideas” that started with Reagan and have run this country into the ground in the last 32 years. Also as I pointed out you are far more original in your arguments than is Bdaman, who mostly just cuts and pastes.

  9. Dredd it is fact that theres been no statistical warming for the last 15 years. Ti deny that is absurd. Phil Jones the head of the Climatic Reearch Unit is on record stating no statistical warming for the last 15 years.

  10. Bdaman 1, March 14, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Dredd no one I know denies the earth has warmed. It is now cooling slightly and has been for 15 years.
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    You obviously confuse “the Earth” with “the hearts of deniers”, who are now cooling, and have been doing so since The Marshall Institute started the chill, circa 1984.

    That ice cream cone head meme complex now has more flavas than Ben & Jerry’s.

    What that meme complex along, with the flat earthers, do not fathom, because of their fear of death, will become flat liners along with the rest of us.

    Preserving the Earth will keep us alive longer than denial will.

  11. Dredd no one I know denies the earth has warmed. It is now cooling slightly and has been for 15 years.

  12. Mike Spindell 1, March 14, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Bdaman,

    Another “threadjack”. Well played. The story was about air pollution, not climate change, but again it becomes all about Bdaman.
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    The story was about air pollution, not climate change …”

    They are, most likely, inextricably intertwined, one producing the other.

    “… but again it becomes all about Bdaman.”

    No argument there. 😉

  13. Henry David Thoreau, said by some to be the first environmentalist, kept careful climate records which scientists take interest in:

    Researchers use Walden author’s tables of flowering dates in 1840s Massachusetts to show temperature has risen 2.4C

    (Scientists Use Thoreau’s Journal). Some think he was a wacko because he did not think the Earth is young and flat.

    IMO, he would have approved of the EPA.

  14. Bdaman,

    Another “threadjack”. Well played. The story was about air pollution, not climate change, but again it becomes all about Bdaman. One would think that “air pollution” might be something of interest to all. Given that certain American cities, such as LA have had smog issues to the point of becoming cliched. As I remember one of the concerns of the Beijing Olympics was the poor air quality due to over industrialization of that great city. “Global Warming” and/or “Climate Change” may be seen by some as wrong thinking, but surely local pollution is of interest to all of us.

    Apparently not to you and Bron, who both have their heads so far up their asses of the industrial elite that you would sacrifice the health of your and/or others children to ensure that their bottom line is not affected. For men who one would think consider themselves independent thinkers the motivation for this would seem tenuous. However, we come to realize that both of you are really not interested in specific issues and their resolutions per se, but are intellectually the equals of those crazy Northern NFL fans, who go bare-chested in 10 degree weather, painted with their team colors, screaming drunkenly that the Refs got it wrong.

    It is sad really that we can’t have a dialogue involving the full spectrum of political opinion. As someone who has been here for a long time and therefore knows all the players and their thinking, the stalwarts on this blog, come from all over the political spectrum. The constant has been Jonathan, whose interest is not in the politics of issues, but in their adherence to Constitutional principles. This is not a liberal blog, or a conservative blog, but merely a place where different viewpoints can be expressed with some depth of reasoning.

    The dialogue has been made harder by both of you since like those crazy football fanatics, you endlessly root for your home team in the inane chanting of the true believer. Over the years though the difference has been that Bron (a man of many identities) has frequently viewed particular issues with a much more nuanced tone. You Bdaman, have not done nuance particularly well and at times, one of which we two know well, have gone beyond the bounds of decency. Your usual maneuver, since I’ve come to know your style so well, is to lamely reply “just “funning” with Ya”, whenever you become frustrated by the demolition of your premises.

    It’s really getting old and boring Bdaman, as I wrote last night on another thread. Nothing will be done about your trolling since we don’t censor here, but like myself what will happen is that everyone will just cease to pay any attention to your scripted remarks and then you will just be howling in the wind.

    A few final points to be made though. You certainly have a need to keep bringing up Buddha, seemingly offended by what you deem to be sneaky legerdemain. Perhaps you might contemplate your own excesses when you call people liars. Perhaps for those who don’t know a little blog history needs retelling, since one of the problems people seem to have these days is a blank memory of even the recent past and because acts of contrition and the resultant forgiveness, quickly become forgotten by the contrite.

    Around three years ago you used a anti-Jewish slur towards me, due to your frustration over an argument between us. Faced with a tremendous response of condemnation, led by Buddha, you apologized for it. I accepted your apology. Two other things began happening at a somewhat later point, one was the severe illness of your mother and the second was the increased failure of my heart. During those times of anguish and pain for both of us, we each reached out to the other in sympathy/empathy. The entire community here also reached out to you in your time of travail with Mom and in a sense that was when in revealing your human side you ceased to be identified as a troll and were accepted into the community.

    It was the humanity of your pain that gave rise to the different feeling we all had towards you. You stopped being the repetitive troll and became a human being sharing the frailty all of us humans share. Despite your anonymous identity, you became real to us. This blog in its content has always bee about the human condition and its foibles. One doesn’t have to expose their real identities to be able to be identified with, merely show some authenticity in their behavior. I must say that lately you’ve again fallen into a production of in-authenticity and not only is the real person behind the Bdaman identity lost, but you do your causes little good because in their endless repetition of talking points people cease to take your seriously.

  15. Bdaman,

    You continue to imply that I don’t understand/didn’t understand the difference between weather and climate. You know that to be untrue. How about a little more honesty in the conversation?

    I would suggest that you need glasses–but you couldn’t handle the truth even if you saw it printed clearly in front of you..

  16. Actually I’m having a coffee and laughing.

    I’ve got a busy day today, so it might be this evening before I get a chance to laugh at you again.

    Yeah we know you can never stray to far away from the laughing eh BIL

  17. Elaine M.

    Explain to me how one day’s weather is indicative of the prevailing climate where I live.”

    and I said

    Im driving at the moment, if memory serves me correctly you asked me to explain how one days weather was indicative of climate and now you want me to explain it to you again?

    You didn’t remember before what makes you think you will remember now 🙂 go get the glasses first 🙂

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