Rep. Steans: Time To Sell National Parks

This week, it was announced that budget cuts would now include canceling the Mars missions. However, Rep. Cliff Steans (R-FL) wants to go further. In a recent speech, Steans called for the selling off of national park lands. We have previously seen states sell off park lands, government buildings and other property — even as we burned hundreds of billions in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

In a town hall meeting Belleview, Florida, on February 25 that Steans stated “we don’t need any more national parks in this country” and that we need to “actually sell off some of our national parks.” That is a remarkable proposal since national parks are the most successful program in the government with rising demands of citizens visiting parks and sites. One would think we would be expanding the parks not cutting off one of the most popular government programs.

Here is the full statement:

I got attacked in a previous town meeting for not supporting another national park in this country, a 200-mile trailway. And I told the man that we don’t need more national parks in this country, we need to actually sell off some of our national parks, and try and do what a normal family would do is — they wouldn’t ask Uncle Joe for a loan, they would sell their Cadillac, or they would take their kids out of private schools and put them into public schools to save to money instead of asking for their credit card to increase their debt ceiling.

Putting aside the thousands of jobs and millions of recreational hours supplied to citizens through these parks, we continue to show a bizarre sense of priority in sending billions abroad to fund wars in countries with growing anti-American sentiments. Instead of saving hundreds of billions of dollars, we will instead continue to cut educational, scientific, and environmental programs that protect our future.

Source: Think Progress as first seen on Reddit

183 thoughts on “Rep. Steans: Time To Sell National Parks”

  1. Gene,

    “The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed.” Albert Einstein


  2. I am sorry but that role is already taken. Please be advised that you can place your name on the waiting list or take a number.

  3. Bdaman,

    Another “threadjack”. Well played. The story was about air pollution, not climate change, but again it becomes all about Bdaman. One would think that “air pollution” might be something of interest to all. Given that certain American cities, such as LA have had smog issues to the point of becoming cliched. As I remember one of the concerns of the Beijing Olympics was the poor air quality due to over industrialization of that great city. “Global Warming” and/or “Climate Change” may be seen by some as wrong thinking, but surely local pollution is of interest to all of us.

    Apparently not to you and Bron, who both have their heads so far up their asses of the industrial elite that you would sacrifice the health of your and/or others children to ensure that their bottom line is not affected. For men who one would think consider themselves independent thinkers the motivation for this would seem tenuous. However, we come to realize that both of you are really not interested in specific issues and their resolutions per se, but are intellectually the equals of those crazy Northern NFL fans, who go bare-chested in 10 degree weather, painted with their team colors, screaming drunkenly that the Refs got it wrong.

    It is sad really that we can’t have a dialogue involving the full spectrum of political opinion. As someone who has been here for a long time and therefore knows all the players and their thinking, the stalwarts on this blog, come from all over the political spectrum. The constant has been Jonathan, whose interest is not in the politics of issues, but in their adherence to Constitutional principles. This is not a liberal blog, or a conservative blog, but merely a place where different viewpoints can be expressed with some depth of reasoning.

    The dialogue has been made harder by both of you since like those crazy football fanatics, you endlessly root for your home team in the inane chanting of the true believer. Over the years though the difference has been that Bron (a man of many identities) has frequently viewed particular issues with a much more nuanced tone. You Bdaman, have not done nuance particularly well and at times, one of which we two know well, have gone beyond the bounds of decency. Your usual maneuver, since I’ve come to know your style so well, is to lamely reply “just “funning” with Ya”, whenever you become frustrated by the demolition of your premises.

    It’s really getting old and boring Bdaman, as I wrote last night on another thread. Nothing will be done about your trolling since we don’t censor here, but like myself what will happen is that everyone will just cease to pay any attention to your scripted remarks and then you will just be howling in the wind.

    A few final points to be made though. You certainly have a need to keep bringing up Buddha, seemingly offended by what you deem to be sneaky legerdemain. Perhaps you might contemplate your own excesses when you call people liars. Perhaps for those who don’t know a little blog history needs retelling, since one of the problems people seem to have these days is a blank memory of even the recent past and because acts of contrition and the resultant forgiveness, quickly become forgotten by the contrite.

    Around three years ago you used a anti-Jewish slur towards me, due to your frustration over an argument between us. Faced with a tremendous response of condemnation, led by Buddha, you apologized for it. I accepted your apology. Two other things began happening at a somewhat later point, one was the severe illness of your mother and the second was the increased failure of my heart. During those times of anguish and pain for both of us, we each reached out to the other in sympathy/empathy. The entire community here also reached out to you in your time of travail with Mom and in a sense that was when in revealing your human side you ceased to be identified as a troll and were accepted into the community.

    It was the humanity of your pain that gave rise to the different feeling we all had towards you. You stopped being the repetitive troll and became a human being sharing the frailty all of us humans share. Despite your anonymous identity, you became real to us. This blog in its content has always bee about the human condition and its foibles. One doesn’t have to expose their real identities to be able to be identified with, merely show some authenticity in their behavior. I must say that lately you’ve again fallen into a production of in-authenticity and not only is the real person behind the Bdaman identity lost, but you do your causes little good because in their endless repetition of talking points people cease to take your seriously.

  4. “If in fact what Gene aka BIL and Mike say is true he is less of a man than I thought for retreating instead of staying in the figh to the finish.”


    What Gene and I are saying is true, but with your casual disdain for the truth you do overlook one aspect of what I stated:

    “His [Vince’s] boredom came from the fact that he totally trounced every argument Bdaman and the other birthers made, but they kept making them anyway. The fact is that they use Goebbels well known “Big Lie” technique, though many believe the crap they spew.”

    As Elaine said above there is no “finish” with you. Every birther untruth you spouted was disposed of handily by Vince, but you simply ignored the facts and kept posting the lies and false arguments, while never bothering to refute Vince’s statements. At what point does someone need to keep arguing with you, when you don’t respond by at least attempting to refute their argument?

    Now as far as who Gene is or isn’t, I think that given your known history of false identities and sock-puppetry you certainly aren’t the one to talk. Gene is a real person and he has his real picture on Facebook. As for you, except that you have used multiple identities, what do we know. You say you are Black. You say your mother was ill. You say you are married with children.
    You say that you work in weather. We’ve accepted you at your word and perhaps you are really who you purport to be, or perhaps not. Maybe you see myself and others as fools for believing you you. If that is the case it is on your conscience not ours. As I’ve written I’ve come to basically ignore you because of your mindless repetitiveness, but your thread-jacking has become increasingly obnoxious. Try being less the troll and more the person, you might get better response, or not. The comment below was posted on the Congress/EPA thread.

  5. Blouise, Now we are stuck with his main opponent in that thread playing god……boring.

  6. SwM,

    Proof positive. Vince Treacy was a great asset. I’m sure he still is wherever he is.

  7. Thread jacking can come in numerous forms, as for sock puppets, it is a well known fact. Just reporting back to the steering committe the full report.

  8. So this thread…is predominantly about…nostalgia for past threads and former commenters?


  9. I assume the “God” sockpuppet is all knowing as we learned in catholic school. No wonder Vince Treacy left. The sockpuppets are extremely boring and their names are getting more and more ridiculous.

  10. Bdaman,

    “If in fact what Gene aka BIL and Mike say is true he is less of a man than I thought for retreating instead of staying in the figh to the finish.”

    Less of a man because he decided not to waste his time arguing with you? I think not. Besides, there is no finish with you.

  11. Sometimes when the conversation is not going the direction you wish, we implement the steering committee.

  12. Bron your memory serves you well. He kept on and on about he was listed in the book and I/anybody was free to look him up so I took him to task on that. Vince treacy was scared of no one, a ruthless advesary one that deserved alot of respect hence the reason I always addressed him as Mr. Treacy. I was being facetios when I said I ran him off. If in fact what Gene aka BIL and Mike say is true he is less of a man than I thought for retreating instead of staying in the figh to the finish.

  13. Okay, I’m a little confused. Is it Mike Spindell or Vince Treacy that is supposed to be Buddha Is Laughing now? Who is it going to be next? My vote is on Elaine. She’s a librarian and everyone knows librarians are crafty.

  14. Bdaman 1, March 13, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Hey Dredd did you know climate change sunk the Titanic?
    You seem to be deactivating based on my link upthread to The W Direction, where I show some new evidence about the Titanic mistakes made by the 1% who owned and operated her.

    Who now own the oil industry, and are still saying what psychopaths have said since the 13th Century.

    There was and is severe flatulence within their brains that gassed their cognition to death, even as they uttered the order to the captain, “full steam ahead so we don’t sink”, which caused the Titanic to sink very quickly compared to what would have happened had they gone full stop.

    You know the drill, there is no global warming on a flat planet, and you know that there is no global anything on a 5,000 – 7,000 year old flat planet.

  15. ooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh……..

    you can chase the moon….for me, light dawns;

    ‘Goebbels’s use of the expression

    Later, Joseph Goebbels put forth a slightly different theory which has come to be more commonly associated with the expression “big lie.” Goebbels wrote the following paragraph in an article dated 12 January 1941, 16 years after Hitler’s first use of the phrase “big lie,” titled “Aus Churchills Lügenfabrik” and translated “From Churchill’s Lie Factory.” It was published in Die Zeit ohne Beispiel.

    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.[2]

  16. Listen up, this should go to show you that I’m a bad man. Take a grown man one dem up town lawyer type folk who’s be an accomplished attorney and make him run like a dog who done seen a ghost. I’m a bad man.

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