After the bruising battle for the top opinion blog in past years, our regulars have been planning to prepare for this year’s competition. However, I am sorry to report that as of this morning I have decided to shelve the plans for a Turley Blog Death Star. Due to these lean times of downsizing and layoffs, the Death Star is no longer financially practicable in light of the recent report by Lehigh students that the star will cost $852 quadrillion. With current revenue generation from advertisements at zero, we will have to focus on other methods of seeking a competitive edge against Volokh Conspiracy, Ann Althouse and the rest.
The students concluded that it would require 1.08 x 1015 metric tons of steel to build the Death Star (which we planned to call the Friendship Star for marketing purposes). Based on the world’s current output it would take 833,315 years to produce enough steel and $852,000,000,000,000,000. Of course, I cannot imagine a better jobs bill if Congress were to offer the blog federal assistance.
In the interim, I want to introduce our latest weekend guest editor:
Source: Lehigh Valley
pepper spray is for wimps
http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/undercover/video-of-teen-restrained-shocked-for-hours-to-be-played-in-court-20120410
Have know how it works……. And even with those that do they still don’t understand how it works….. I think you know what it means….
Next, I did not start the attack, but you goddamed know I will not back down from being attacked….. As was stated to me by you this is the revenge of the sisterhood…… Need an email to be refreshed?
I was not writing under nai…… I am not at liberty to disclose whom….. But it is someone that knows you quite well…… They also are kind to your face…..there may have been a router in common….. But I do not control what others post on here….. And yes, i showed them what you wrote here, the rest is history……
Next……
Just because I was raised traditional Klingon doens’t mean I’m not . . . well . . . kinda . . . sorta . . . oh, never mind.
Gene’s not “nurturing”? Really?
Which I just forgot to do. My comment was intended for idealist 707.
As a general rule, it is unwise to assume that a comment is directed at me merely because it appears directly following mine in a thread. I have frequently prepared a response to a comment only to discover when I post it that a half a dozen other comments have been posted in between. That is why we address comments to specific individuals if that is our intent.
No, you read that rightly but in the wrong context, id707. That last option is indeed a possible outcome should your unprovoked attacks continue but it is contingent entirely upon your behavior. It is rare someone is cut off for being a disruption or some other uncivil behavior around here – to my knowledge it has only been done a couple of times, but it does have precedent. That is not appointing myself anything though. As I said, I can offer my input, but the final decision is not mine to make. What I was doing was pointing to a potential consequence you may not have considered.
Also, I have defined what random means in regard to this situation. If you don’t like the answer, that’s your problem. If you need a clarification, ask about your area of confusion.
However, I’m not attacking you gratuitously or randomly but rather appropriately and with precise purpose. This is in direct response to another random attack by you on another poster. If you don’t like that? I suggest that you stop attacking other posters since your sense of appropriatness seems to be impaired.
And you should really listen to Blouise.
idealist, Listen to Blouise.
GeneH, you wrote:
“….4) keep on acting as an uneccessary irritant and distraction for the other readers of this blog until remedial action is considered a viable and attractive option to both host and editors.”
I took that as meaning that JT as host and you with the other guest bloggers (“editors”) would jointly consider removing my access to commenting.
You deny this, as I understand it, as follows in this exchange:
““Just now you have appointed yourself prosecutor, and one of the judges who will stand in judgement of my behaviour here. Enlighten me on how this due process proceeds. ”
“Not in the slightest. I just made some suggestions that would smooth things out. Again, whether you heed the advice is up to you.””
I see it is again late, 00:30AM, am tired, and you are intransigent and still only claiming the right to inform me of my errors, while heaping plentiful abuse and calling it diagnosis.
I shall have to part, with the sad reflection that you still have not defined what constitutes random in my encounters, what is the border line between rough and tumble and attacks, and why you attack me gratuítiously. Have others complained? I asked AY and got no reply. I asked you and got none either.
id707,
“So fine, so perceptive and so one-eyed and brutal when crossed.”
lol … that’s pretty good.
Look, Gene really is trying to help you and he’s also sending you a side message regarding your “blog nemesis wanna-be” … ignore the nemesis.
You walked into a situation that perplexes you and rightfully so. You keep having to defend yourself as being yourself and can’t understand why someones else keeps insisting you don’t exist.
The “cloaked in mystery all knowing who you really are” bullshit from various sock puppets is just that … bullshit. And it isn’t really aimed at you. It’s aimed at who the super-sleuth thinks you are which from my standpoint is hilarious.
But it isn’t hilarious to you. I understand that.
Gene isn’t exactly nurturing in his style but he is not trying to hurt you.
id707,
In this instance, consider the term “random” to equate to “unprovoked”. Because your attacks in question are unprovoked they appeear random to the outside observer even if you may think they make perfect sense. They don’t. Your attack of AY on this thread was a total non-sequitur – completely out of the blue, from out of left field, whatever terminology helps you relate to how it looked to all other parties than youself. If your sense of when to attack is compromised, might I suggest simply refrain from attacking at all. It would be better for you and for those around you.
idealist 707, People often enable addicts and alcoholics. In the end it only prolongs their hitting bottom.
GeneH,
Can you clarify a difference of opinion from an attack. And why do you categorize them as random?
What characterizes an attack as you see if?
I understand just fine. That you don’t like the reactions you solicit by your behavior is not my concern, only that you either learn from it and change your ways or that you simply stop engaging in the bad behavior by way of simple deterent. Learning is a painful process.
I don’t know Gene that well but I think his intentions are honorable even if I don’t always agree with him, idealist. Maybe you should listen to him. I only had a resentment against him once when he patronized me when I was attacked by “Not as Insane”. But then again Gene was being played.
None have claimed perfection, id707. You say you plead no special treatment and then seem to expect special treatment from me. I’ve already told you how I operate vis a vis aggression. You give it, you get it. It’s not a mystery. It’s the reciprocal nature of the Golden Rule.
Enabling is “used in the context of problematic behavior, to signify dysfunctional approaches that are intended to help but in fact may perpetuate a problem. A common theme of enabling in this latter sense is that third parties take responsibility, blame, or make accommodations for a person’s harmful conduct (often with the best of intentions, or from fear or insecurity which inhibits action). The practical effect is that the person himself or herself does not have to do so, and is shielded from awareness of the harm it may do, and the need or pressure to change.”
Tolerating your random aggressiveness only enables it because it doesn’t force you to confront your bad behavior.
GeneH
I speak poorly or you don’t/won’t understand.
I understood that the joke was about Solyandra, their loans, and perhaps the Obama (vaguely). But that it was not pointed at me was something I missed.
That was a big mistake. Actually several. You see, as I say I can be enlightened and realize my mistakes. So here is my analysis, which you and SwM have helped me reach. Although maybe not your intentions, I CAN see beyond the hurt you perhaps intend to cause me. Much to learn.
Number 1 Don’t write a comment, as I said I did in the comment itself, without reading the blog and the comments completely and thoroughly. Otherwise you have a large likelihood of making the mistake as I did in judging AY’s comment.
Number 2. Don’t assume from the proximity of AY’s comment that it has anything to do with me.
Number 3. Don’t get anxious, as I actually was, after violating good sense and writing a blog length comment, even if I ended with an apology to JT and hoped for his understanding of the need which it expressed. See comment.
Number 4. Don’t be so hasty in a rush to judgement, especially when insult is suspected
Number 5. Do as you’ve been advised to do. Shrug and walk on in full composure.
So thanks for the help. Intended or otherwise. I understand this is tiresome for you and others. Some modification and more caution can be hoped for, but more feedback would be appreciated.
I certainly tire of this, when all I seek is approval (and friendship as you derised me for, is that worth derision? ) but am still inclined since grade 2 to use conflicts as a form of standing up for myself. Which wins no friends.
Now that analysis was useful to me.
Hopefully it won’t be met by emnity.
SwM
Thanks, I would be the first to admit paranoid diagnosis, there have been attacks on my all my life. And I have constantly tried to understand why.
Thanks for the helpful reply. But please explain; What is “enabling”.
And my condolences on the stuff you’re getting. You are also outspoken, have firm convictions and defend them—-and since they are in support of women in general and specifically the poor ones, this opens you as being a prime and favored target for abuse from these men without balls. For in my opinion their lack explains their fear of women—particularly strong one.
Hope this helps you. You have helped me.
GeneH is a mystery which I don’t expect comment from you, but not missing an opportunity. He is Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde to me. So fine, so perceptive and so one-eyed and brutal when crossed.
Well none are perfect, ehhh?
id707,
Is taking a comment you allegedly know isn’t directed at you and conflating it to be directed at you the act of a sane or intelligent person?
No. Ergo, my characterization was either accurate or you’re a liar and you know your attacks are unprovoked. Which is it?
“So, this is not a plea for special treatment. No more than explaining that I need feedback, and hopefully well-meant, on the rules here and the transgressions I make.”
And feedback is what you are getting, id707. Your attacks are indeed random and unprovoked. Stop them or learn to live with the consequences that behavior will create for you. Because you will not recieve special treatment even if you ask for it. You aren’t right now.