What The %#@!$*

Submitted by: Mike Spindell, guest blogger

The following link was sent to me by Otteray Scribe, who is among the most erudite and respected people among those who frequently comment on this blog. He is an extremely well educated man, with masterful writing ability and a creatively active mind. The title of his E mail to me and the other guest bloggers was WTF? and this is what he wrote:

“This is beyond strange.  Horace Boothroyd III is disabled and apparently has nothing to do but sit at his computer.  He monitors everything going on regarding OWS and police misconduct.  I won’t try to describe this, but it is more than passing strange. Might be worth following up.”

When someone who I like and respect as much as I do Otteray Scribe, is at a loss for words to describe something, I take notice. When I clicked the link and read this story from Daily Kos, my own reaction mirrored his: WTF? It took me more than twelve hours to respond to his E mail because I needed to let it gestate in my own mind and figure out just what to write about.

Rather than me regurgitating the story I think it is an important one for the readers to view for themselves and present their own take on the why, wherefore and implications inherent in the story.

While allowing you make your own judgments, let me give my bottom line opinion on all of the issues and questions the story raises and let’s see what you the reader makes of it on your own. I believe that the actions detailed in this story are indicative of our beloved America fast moving towards becoming a police state, in the same manner that the USSR, its successor Russia and China are police states. That is that all protest against the status quo is to be repressed. The police/security/intelligence/military forces are not only to act as agents of this repression, in many instances on their own volition without sanction, but also are taking part in the use of counter-insurgency techniques towards those elements within the society deemed dangerous to the status quo. In the minds of those in power openly and behind the scenes the question of what is threatening to the country is in most instances a self-serving rationale for what is politically/economically threatening to them. We must ask ourselves are we to be mere observers meekly silent for fear of our own security, or will we act openly to oppose the destruction of the Constitution of the United States and with it our rights and freedoms?

60 thoughts on “What The %#@!$*

  1. The ride will be over when the ride is over…….does this really surprise you, knowing that you have no rights and that even if you are silent that that can be used against you…

  2. Title got my attention. WTF!!!! Will watch the rest later. Second reaction: Seems there are some cops that should spend a lot of time in jail for possession and distribution. Solicitation?

  3. This story has been picked up by several sources. Whatever is going on, the authorities are not very forthcoming. But then they were not forthcoming about the syphilis studies on black people decades ago either. This is a black ops if I ever saw one. They seem to be trying to create a false flag. I am also more than suspicious about the Black Bloc ninja types who vandalize property in the name of OWS.

  4. Patrol denies claim that cops gave people drugs
    by Laura Yuen, Minnesota Publi
    May 3, 2012

    ST. PAUL, Minn. — The Minnesota State Patrol is denying allegations that officers were supplying young people in downtown Minneapolis with illegal drugs.

    A video released this week by the activist group Occupy Minnesota interviewed so-called test subjects who said sheriff’s deputies from around the state were giving them marijauana as part of a program run by the State Patrol. The program trains officers to identify impaired drivers.

    But Lt. Eric Roeske says the program’s supervisors looked into the claims and are confident the officers did not offer drugs to the volunteers who agreed to be evaluated.

    Roeske says there’s no need for further investigation.

    “We have nothing to hide,” said Roeske. “This program has been conducted for over 20 years in Minnesota, so we don’t see any need or reason to change what’s going on unless there is some information or evidence that would substantiate the allegations.”

    The video did not show anyone actually taking drugs.

    Minneapolis police say they weren’t involved with the operation but are looking into the claims.

  5. Minneapolis Police Got Occupy Activists High, For Research
    May 3, 2012

    Minnesota State Patrol had a great idea, seeing as they are bored and hate everyone, particularly Occupy protesters? The Occupy protesters are just hanging around the central location of Peavey Plaza, causing problems, wasting cardboard, not getting jobs, so in lieu of beating them with a stick, the police department decided it would work better to “recruit” these useless individuals, feed them marijuana and possibly other drugs, then observe their behavior as part of a police “training” program that teaches state patrol officers what different kinds of intoxication look like. Others were apparently given weed if they would simply rat on fellow protesters. It was very exciting for some Occupiers, because their title was suddenly High Police Informant. “I smoked with a cop,” said a man who identified himself as Panda, and it was “some of the best shit I’ve had in a while.”

    For most victims of this experiment it was described as just creepy and weird, and so these people were happy to be part of a documentary put together by Communities United Against Police Brutality and other groups.

    One guy told the filmmakers that he was given a bowl of weed to smoke, and then was basically let loose in downtown Minneapolis, “visibly intoxicated.”

  6. Doping up the teens is totally unacceptable. The below is what was done here instead.

    We needed obviously many years ago (before internet video etc) a way of training officers to how to recognize drug influence. Alcohol was easy, you just brought in some of the off duty reserves or other deputies and had them drink a few bottles of booze and then perform Field Sobriety tests on them. Drugs were another problem

    What one agency in a metro area did was sponsor a DRE program where word was spread in the drug culture of the area the agency was training officers to recognize drug use and invited a “No Worries” guarantee of immunity from prosecution. In exchange for their participation they would receive a few hundred dollars cash. Each time a few people would come in and volunteer to be tested. They were asked what kind of drug they had been using and they were very candid about it. This was to establish a baseline. The people were then put in for officers to test them. A few control people came by who were not under the influence.

    While not the best issue for PR, it gave us what we needed tor training. Nobody was given drugs, it was just based up what they already had in their system. One could argue there were those who might have shot up just to get the money, but all of these people were known drug users and were relatively benign. Certainly better than drugging up run of the mill teenagers.

  7. Horace has another WTF story this morning. Two teenagers were making a video of police activity from the balcony of their home. Police burst in, arrested the teens and after taking them to jail, confiscated their SIM card. I saw the original story last night on a Jackson, MS news web site.


    This is from the Raw Story news site:

    Moral of the story is to change your SIM card immediately and conceal the original. Or subscribe to an upload service so you can send your stuff to the Cloud in real time.

  8. One comment on the DK site says it well:

    *The next step will be “Reeducation Camps”

    This is another form of “planting evidence”, an old trick.

    It became epidemic in Los Angeles, so a federal court ordered the U.S. Department of Justice to assume control of the LAPD and clean it up.

  9. From “MK Occupy Minnesota: Drugs & the DRE Program at Peavey Plaza ” (Daily Kos, YouTube video):

    “and others say they’ve been rewarded for offering to snitch on the movement. ”

    “After receiving drugs, some subjects were asked to snitch on the Occupy movement or asked about various people and activities of Occupy, they said.”


    This is a piece of it, IMO:

    Book TV: Alexandra Natapoff, “Snitching: Criminal Informants and the Erosion of American Justice”

  10. Wait! I could have free drugs just for hanging around downtown!?! See you guys later I gotta go now and ah . . . see a guy . . . ah . . . about . . . something

  11. “By the early ’90s, the government was paying informants or snitches more than $100 million a year.” (Frontline, “Snitch”)

    If it was “more than $100 million a year” in the early ’90s, imagine what it is now.

    What’s going on in MN is just the tip of the iceberg.



    NARRATOR: By the early ’90s, the government was paying informants or snitches more than $100 million a year. They paid thousands of others by reducing their sentences. Over the last five years, nearly a third of the people sentenced in drug-trafficking cases in the federal system had their sentences reduced because they informed on other people. Ronald Rankins is one of the informants. He now wants the world to know why.

    RONALD RANKINS: I wrote Janet Reno. I wrote President Clinton. I wrote Oprah Winfrey. I wrote “60 Minutes.” I wrote “Hard Copy.” I wrote “New York Times.” I wrote “Mobile Press Register.” And the list just goes on and on and on.

    NARRATOR: He wrote claiming that his testimony was coerced. He was arrested in 1992 and was charged with conspiracy to distribute crack cocaine and money laundering. He faced life in prison.

    RONALD RANKINS: I was a drug user, you know? And I sold drugs more or less to support my habit, you know? And I wasn’t nothing near what they would call a kingpin or what the judicial system would refer to as a kingpin.

    NARRATOR: His co-defendant was his friend, Algernon Lundy, called “Lonnie.”

    RONALD RANKINS: The prosecutor, Donna Barrows, she said, “One of you is going to receive a life sentence, Mr. Rankins.” She said, “Now, it don’t matter to me which one of you receives a life sentence.” She say, “I can assure you the federal government have a 98.6 conviction rate, and if I tell you you’re going to receive a life sentence, you can call your family and tell them to break your plate because you won’t be coming home again.” Those was her words, verbatim.

    NARRATOR: He finally took the stand and was the star witness against his friend, Lonnie Lundy. In exchange, he received a reduced sentence of 15 years in federal prison. Now he regrets it.

    RONALD RANKINS: And as God is my witness, it hurt me to my heart to take the stand again, like, and sit there and tell all them lies.

    INTERVIEWER: But you finally did.

    RONALD RANKINS: Let me ask you a question, if I may. If you was faced with a life sentence right now, and they tell you, “Well, Miss Ofra, if you don’t testify on this guy, your next-door neighbor, that you seen him selling drugs, we’re going to give you a life sentence, we’re going to make you part of this conspiracy and give you a life sentence,” what’re you going to do? You going to take that life sentence?

    INTERVIEWER: Probably not.

  12. Add it to the other reports of egregious “establishment” behavior to set up OWS, discredit, undermine, destroy, marginalize, delegitimize, subvert, etc.

    Who’s surprised there would be plausible deniability?

    How about the doublethink, doublespeak involved in the Feds aggression against medical marijuana? The government is not our friend.

  13. The CIA flooded our inner cities with crack in the ’70’s and 80’s. Law ‘enforcement’ are the biggest drug dealers on the planet.

    Thats why we will never be able to end the ‘War on Drugs’ ™ and change to a medical model. Some people in law enforcement agencies make too much money while drugs are illegal.

    someone should investigate, ha

  14. Prosecute for possession and distribution keeping in mind the mandatory prison time for distribution to a person under 18 years of age and solicitation of anyone on school or park zone as Minnesota law allows a judge to increase the severity of the sentence … a sentence for a drug crime may be increased if the drug (marijuana is classified as a Schedule I drug) offense took place in a school zone or a park zone. Stack the charges based on incidents of testing and numbers involved.

    Police are targeting the young and vulnerable. Time to turn the tables on them.

  15. If we do not bring the major players to trail, then why should we do so with the minor ones? And if our standards of behavior are no higher than those of the “alleged” criminals we assassinate without trial, then by what standard can we claim that the behavior of these hoodlums in uniform is deviant?

  16. Perhaps the powers that be in the U.S.eh? should consider Japan, a nation that listened to the 99% and shut down its last nuclear reactor.

    Guess what … it caused demonstrations:

    Thousands of Japanese marched to celebrate the switching off of the last of their nation’s 50 nuclear reactors Saturday, waving banners shaped as giant fish that have become a potent anti-nuclear symbol.

    Japan will be without electricity from nuclear power for the first time in four decades when the reactor at Tomari nuclear plant on the northern island of Hokkaido goes offline for routine maintenance.

    (HuffPost). Dear Gummit of the U.S.eh? if you want praise from the 99% stop plundering and oppressing them on behalf of the 1% … um K?

  17. Blouise,

    I think the covered their a… to some extent by asking if the kids were at least 18, but maybe some of the kids lied, and then taking the kids to the airport. Anything in the statutes about taking them from a park to give them drugs?


    Can’t imagine the kids and the mom being so blase about a shootout in their neighborhood. Must be an everyday event. I do understand them filming the action. If it provided evidence for a neighbor, it will undoubtedly get “lost”.

  18. I am with Blouise. It is time to rein in the misuse and overuse of police power. We either have the right to assemble and protest or we might as well tear up the First Amendment.

  19. OS,
    She must have attached the officer in order to cause his violent reaction to her..right????He had to defend himself somehow!!!:)

  20. At this point, I’d like to point out there is a vast difference between being a boobie and having boobies. Just to avoid confusion. One can be a very good thing and the other is almost never a good thing.

  21. Anyone want to speculate what that officer’s reaction would be if somebody treated his mother or sister that way? Some people are functionally incapable of empathy.

  22. OS, I doubt that these officers (more than one is involved) have much respect for their mothers or their sister either.

  23. Mike,

    I just wanted to say don’t feel bad about the 12 hour thing. I haven’t had much to say on this story because quite frankly I’m still trying to digest all the (seemingly sinister) implications of it. You and OS both know me well enough to know how rare a loss for words is in my case.

  24. I can only hope that all this ends up with a reaction by the public that is similar to the reaction of Bull Conner and the Birmingham police. That horror story contributed to enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

  25. Wow, I just read this thread. There is not a word or implication in it that I have trouble believing, unfortunately. I think that the drugging-youngsters thing has been a minor part of the semi-organized RICO-Police state action for many decades. The drug war is an effective way of making sure there is always an exploitable class, even after the 13th Amendment made it harder to decide who fits into it and for how long.

    The police have plenty of drugs around to use in ways they choose; we all know that; it gives rise to a little gasp of “surprise” now and then when some ordinary cop gets prosecuted for dealing. I knew an Army CID officer who dealt drugs until the time that he made a case against someone powerful enough to turn the tables against him and get HIM prosecuted. But they have the drugs, they have the incentive to misuse them (especially if they feel righteously indignant about someone who is demonstrating “against” them and “against” the establishment that they protect), and they have pretty good cover. (All they really have to say if things get to looking suspicious is that they are being accused by a bunch of druggies.)

    There is, in addition to all the other factors, the unpleasant specter of mind control and naturally, drugging people is part of the most rudimentary techniques used. It’s very demoralizing, but I think we have reached the point in this society where contact with people in any of the three branches of government is only about as safe as unprotected sex. It doesn’t HAVE to turn out badly, but it could.

  26. TalkinDog, I’m with you. My grandwhippet had this thing he did with his eyebrows when we did, and we realized the error of our ways.

  27. bettykath,

    I think the operative word is “solicitation” in a school or park zone. I don’t know if it matters where you actually take them for distribution once the solicitation has occurred. A good prosecutor could make it work.

  28. “The police/security/intelligence/military forces are not only to act as agents of this repression, in many instances on their own volition without sanction, but also are taking part in the use of counter-insurgency techniques towards those elements within the society deemed dangerous to the status quo.” — Mike Spindell
    ” … there is a vast difference between being a boobie and having boobies. Just to avoid confusion. One can be a very good thing and the other is almost never a good thing.” — Gene H

    I’ve got the counter-insurgency and Boobie thing covered in Boobie Counter Insurgency, yet another episode in the never-ending verse epic Fernando Po, U.S.A., America’s post-linguistic retreat to Plato’s Cave.

    The verse structure derives from Lewis Carroll’s “The Walrus and the Carpenter,” my mother’s favorite poem, and the idea of culturally devolved, linguistically incompetent aborigines comes from the epigram to Chapter One of The Meaning of Meaning, by C. K. Ogden and I. A. Richards:

    “Let us get closer to the fire, so that we may see what we are saying.” — the Bubis of Fernando Po

    It all just fits so perfectly.

  29. I once took some college classes in Buddhism from a former Sri Lankan ambassador to the United States and France. Over lunch one day the subject of his country’s Tamil insurgency came up and I told him of my own experiences with America’s disastrous counter-insurgency program in Vietnam. He said that his government had taken a lesson from that and so when America offered military assistance to Sri Lanka to help combat the Tamil insurgency, his government politely declined. As the Ambassador explained the decision:

    If the Americans come they will just draw an arbitrary line through a temporary problem and make it permanent.”

    America’s hyper militarized cops and corporate mercenaries have already started their search-and-destroy missions through an alien and threatening landscape populated by sullen and inscrutable foreigners — the American people. And understand, you gooks, wogs, rag-heads, etc., that when the COIN books say “win their hearts and minds” they really mean “grab ’em by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow.” I know. I graduated from this school over forty years ago and have never seen Americans do anything more than make a bloody mess everywhere they’ve tried to implement this this discredited slogan masquerading as a doctrine of “pacification.”

    So now what you have done to others, you will now do to yourselves. Karma.

  30. Watching the imperial blowback eat away at the rotten reactionary republic, reminds me of a scene from the remake of The Count of Monte Christo, where Edmond Dantes and his sidekick Yacopo look on through an open casino door as Fernand de Mondego, the profligate aristocrat, squanders his family fortune at the roulette wheel. Observes Yacopo: “He’s losing, and they’re not even cheating him.”

    How humiliating.

  31. Michael Murry, thank you. I’m beginning to understand.
    But I believe we were doing this to ourselves even before we did it to others, weren’t we?

  32. Mike S did this post on the anniversary of Kent State.

    Some accounts indicate that a paid FBI informant fired shots from the area of the protesters prior to the National Guard Firing on the demonstrators.

    Subverting protesters is a common activity by FBI and police.
    The Japanese protesters I mentioned in the post up-thread have very good reason to want Japan’s nuclear power plants shut down.

    A U.S. Senator, Ron Wyden, who just returned from Japan because experts have said:

    “If the cooling water supply is lost to the high-level radioactive waste storage pool in Unit 4, it could be just a matter of hours before the irradiated nuclear fuel is on fire,” warned Kevin Kamps, radioactive waste specialist at Beyond Nuclear. “A fire in the Unit 4 high-level radioactive waste storage pool could release up to eight times more hazardous cesium-137 than the Chernobyl reactor explosion.

    (If Fukushima Unit 4 Falls). The Senator echoed those claims and is urging Japan to allow help from other nations to secure Unit 4.

    Protesters do good work.

  33. Its funny how coming up I would hear stories of people being stopped and having things put in their pockets or cars or homes and going to jail.

    I guess in those days if you were a minority and you complained about it no one paid you any attention.

    Funny how things come full circle and this put planting things on suspects to now just getting them high is one for the record books.

    ” We are still in the streets. And so the police are searching for new and better ways of dealing with us that don’t entail creating public sympathy for the movement or weighing down police departments like Oakland’s with over 1000 Occupy-related police abuse claims while they have one foot in federal receivership. While we caught glimpses on May 1stof what is to come in the first warm months the Occupy movement has had in the US, we also got a clear picture of what local and federal police have been planning.”


  34. LOL Yes I spend alot of time online. But I also utilize search engines and social media to my advantage. The fact I have amazing reading speed probably also helps. Thanks for spreading the word. We are the media. MSM just won’t admit it yet.

  35. So now they are picking on white kids by giving them drugs. Not a nice thing to do. But consider what they are/have been doing to Black and Latino kids:



    The first article shows a video of the incident from a high vantage point, the other from street level. The second article also relates other incidents from the same neighborhood.

    The cops are out of control, at least from the pov of the 99%.

  36. If you want me to get these stories out there, I need videos that will embed. Youtube will embed in most sites. Without video these stories are lost because there are just so many of them.

  37. eniobob,

    Maybe if the cops hassle enough white kids, the cops will be reined in for everyone. The white kids getting killed at Kent State were a factor in the escalation of the protests against the Vietnam War.

  38. oops, wasn’t finished. The Vietnam War where Blacks were a larger percentage of the draftees than their percent of the population and were expected to kill Asians against whom they had no beef.


    by Emmanuel Goldstein

    Chapter III: War is Peace

    “… The war, …, if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. … But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that a hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. … In our own day … war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word ‘war’, therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. … This — although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense — is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: War is Peace George Orwell, 1984

    How depressing that an English journalist had to explain us to ourselves sixty years ago in a “work of fiction.” How humiliating that we have proven so utterly and dismally predictable.

  40. HBIII:

    Horace, thank you for all you are doing to get the word out on stories most of us would never hear about, were it not for your efforts. Keep up the good work. I will continue to cross post those of your stories I think this legal community might find interesting.

  41. I’m kinda surprised that you are surprised by this or the video-arrest story that was posted an comments. The War on Drugs illustrated that the police benefit strongly from the criminalization of citizens, just look at the growing budgets, powers and range of “toys” the War on Drugs has given cops. How much more directly do the police benefit from the criminalization of citizens that act to check the abuses of power? One of the most common disagreements I saw at Zuccotti Park was the “Cops are part of the 99% too!” vs “Cops are the thugs for the 1% !” From my own casual observation, about 90% of cops are just hard working 99%ers trying, mostly, to do something good. But they still look the other way when the thuggish 10% decide to practice fascism. In that “look the other way” the 90% of cops are tacitly supporting the erosion of citizen rights and the freedom of our country.

    But it’s been going on for a long time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QwcxaQCO1Q Those protesters were awarded $1 each after a years long court battle. The cops who did this all kept their jobs.

  42. Did you know that when cops “look the other way” they are breaking the law? That makes them accessories of the “10%”

  43. Did you know that when cops “look the other way” they are breaking the law? That makes them accessories of the “10%” -HBIII

    Yes. (Thanks for your good work and efforts, HBIII.)

  44. Otteray,

    These are the same videos I posted 24 hours earlier with comments by Shano. There is also a link in to another, more in-depth, report in the second link.

  45. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/05/29

    Published on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 by The Guardian/UK

    Cleveland Occupy Arrests are the Latest in FBI’s Pattern of Manipulation

    The FBI says the five arrested before May Day are terrorists, but friends in Cleveland say they were goaded on by informant

    by Arun Gupta


    Lea Tolls calls the five “boys playing cowboys and Indians with fireworks and spray paint. They were trying to empower themselves and passionately wanted to change their world. Instead of helping them, the FBI targets them for something nefarious and violent. It’s just disgusting that the government uses them towards this end.”

    It wouldn’t be the first time. The FBI’s rap sheet is a history of political repression: the Red Scare after the first world war, the anti-Communist purges following the second world war, the disruption of the anti-Vietnam protests, student and black liberation movements in the 1960s, spying on Central American solidarity activists in the 1980s. In addition to targeting Muslims during the last decade the FBI has termed “animal rights and environmental extremists” and anarchists as domestic terrorist threats. It has used infiltrators, most infamously one code-named Anna, to entrap leftist activists.

    It would be easy to conclude the FBI and the government is out of control. It’s not. It is fully in control. It’s in control of a media that rarely questions the war on terror. It’s in control of a public that willingly sheds rights for the never-ending war. And it’s in control of an apparatus that turns children into terrorists. (end of excerpt)

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