The evidence continues to roll in on the Zimmerman case. While the new evidence is not entirely bad for the prosecution, it does contain some evidence that will likely bolster the defense of George Zimmerman in the second degree murder trial over the killing of Trayvon Martin. Regardless of the ultimate impact, the evidence again shows (in my opinion) that prosecutor Angela Corey over-charged the case in Florida.
Some of the new evidence shows that Martin had traces of THC (the active ingredient of marijuana) in his blood stream and urine. Martin was suspended from school due to a marijuana offense (though it involved an empty marijuana baggie). Another benefit to the defense is that Martin father is shown denying that the voice calling out for help was his son — though he later changed that view when he says he was given a better recording. Other witnesses have indicated that it Zimmerman who was calling for help.
Generally, the existence of drugs in the system of a victim or defendant is admissible. The suspension would appear inadmissible under standard evidentiary rules.
There is also evidence that some neighbors described Zimmerman as a bully and a racist. That would help bolster the reported hate crimes prosecution being considered by the Obama Administration, though I still have reservations based on the evidence as it currently stands. Also the police viewed the shooting as “avoidable” — if Zimmerman had left the matter to the police.
I am not sure how much of the neighbor’s view of Zimmerman as a bully or racist could come into evidence. Such accounts, however, can have the benefit of further discouraging Zimmerman from taking the stand as a witness — always a benefit to the prosecution because (while they are told that a defendant has a right not to testify (jurors expect to hear from defendants).
On the whole, however, I would view the evidence as more positive to the defense. First, I have previously said that I was most interested in the distance of the shot and forensics. It now appears that Martin was shot from an intermediate range (no more than 18 inches and as little as an inch away). That would support the claim of Zimmerman that they were in a wrestling fight when the gun was fired. The greater the distance the stronger the case for the prosecution. The defense will likely present expert testimony to try to reduce the range further on the stand. Also, the report does have people at the scene saying that Zimmerman’s nose appeared broken — supporting the later medical report of the family doctor (though such injuries could occur from Martin defending himself).
Moreover, at least two witnesses appear to support Zimmerman in describing the man in the hoodie at straddling the other man and throwing punches. The report state that the man in the “‘hoodie’ [was] on top of a white or Hispanic male and throwing punches ‘MMA (mixed martial arts) style.’ He then heard a pop. He stated that after hearing the pop, he observed the person he had previously observed on top of the other person (the male wearing the hoodie) laid out on the grass.” One report also says that Zimmerman can be heard yelling for help 14 times on a 911 call recorded during the fight.
While the reports blame Zimmerman for getting out of his vehicle (he says that he was trying to get a house number for the police), that is not itself a crime. Of course, none of this means that Zimmerman was not the aggressor. Given the presumption of innocence and the need to prove the elements beyond a reasonable doubt, this evidence presents an added problem for the prosecution in my view. I have expressed skepticism over the way the case has developed and how it has been charged from the outset. As a criminal defense attorney, I would view this as a strong defense case even on the manslaughter charge, particularly given the poor police work at the scene.
What do you think?
Here is the police report.
Source: ABC and NY Daily News
Zimmerman screaming is only, IMO, relevant to Zimmerman’s propensity to tell the truth or to lie.
My impression of Serino and Singleton was positive, too. I think they had been TOLD that they were not to charge him with a crime. My bet is that this advice came down to them from Wolfinger. I believe the feds must have some detail on that. My point was that they were doing this thing they had to do of, “We need to explain away what you did, so tell us something we can use to explain it away.” Of course, George couldn’t.
Serino at one point says that Trayvon Martin had a right to defend himself because he could have thought George was a weirdo. Um, hello!
forgot the link to Zimmerman’s scream recording
Hmm, gone now, but strictly Zimmerman’s attempts at screams sound completely different to me. And as you know I was skeptic about who screamed. I don’t think it should be very difficult who underwent this to do this much better Or is it only me, feeling this?
Serino not only going from detective to patrol, but word is he got the night shift with no increase in pay. Maybe he wants the night shift to avoid Zimmerman supporters in town?
. Zimmerman says, “He hit me several times, he yelled out for help…” and Serino interrupts, “Who yelled for help?” and Zimmerman answers, “I did.”
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Malisha finds the damning evidence. Yes, that was Trayvon Martin calling out for help that never came. He held George down for as long as he was able.
You agree that the Dispatcher never asked about an address or asked about where Martin had gone until after Zimmerman got out of the truck.
Sling, unfortunately he does:
Dispatcher: What address are you parked in front of?
Zimmerman: I don’t know, it’s a cut through so I don’t
know the address.
Dispatcher: Okay do you live in the area?
Zimmerman: Yeah, I…(unintelligible)
Dispatcher: What’s your apartment number?
Zimmerman: It’s a home it’s 1950, oh crap I don’t want to
give it all out, I don’t know where this kid is.
Dispatcher: Okay do you want to just meet with them right
near the mailboxes then?
Zimmerman: Yeah that’s fine.
Dispatcher: Alright George, I’ll let them know to meet you
around there okay?
Zimmerman: Actually could you have them call me and I’ll
tell them where I’m at?
Dispatcher: Okay, yeah that’s no problem.
Jeralyn simply argues that he in fact did. And yes he did. For the lawyer this offers a really easy way out, a misunderstanding, he did not remember it correctly, anything that comes to your mind, can convinces the jury.
Strictly the issue is resolved for the dispatcher, since he says OK, but then makes this curious shift and asks George if he lives in the area, what apartment or house he lives in. This is absolutely unrelated to the event, .
I think this gave me the impression that all these questions about the exact place, and then even his own apartment or home, plus the demand George meet the officerso at the clubhouse, is an attempt to hold him back. (it all follows: are you running?) And I think George understands that well. That’s why he asks him, could the officer call him back once he arrived. He already at that point clearly had the event at Frank Taaffee’s house in mind, even more if he indeed watched TM there first, where he called back after the police car passed him and corrected the address with the dispatcher. This time he wants to call the officers in the car to call him directly to save time. This also allows him to follow Martin, which he did on 02/02/12.
That Serino is out, is not a good sign, if you ask me. And I say this although strictly I would perfectly fit his suspect profile with the exception of not been black but my clothes almost always are. …
I think, I don’t like the SPD interim chief. So a police officer is like a soldier duty stands above all, the upper orders decide, who goes home and who ends in front of a judge or behind bars? Well yes, yes, I know.
Malisha, my impression of Serino and Singleton (if I am correct) was very positive. It didn’t feel to me that Serino really offered George to protect him, that’s why he did not respond in any way to attempt to explain why and how he could have made Trayvon so mad.
When Shano posted the link about Serino working night patrol shifts from starting July 1, I immediately wondered, has the interim uncovered something about Serino like leaks to the press?
see Jeralyn picks up a web rumor.
But strictly this would make sense. Why should he be degraded. But considering the fact that he was the only one that forced ahead and did not buy anything Zimmerman offered, it does not bode good things ahead it feels.
Concerning the comment awaiting moderation. I simple take out the links if it feels it could be them, and post them again.
I noticed there are two version of comments that do not show up. One is, you feel you have posted it and after you uploaded it it completely disappears. The other variant is you see you comment up, and there is a yellow colored block telling you: Comment is awaiting moderation. In bother cases I simply post them again.
Prof. Turley uses software, and it may in fact be simply connected to that. Once I took a link out and it worked fine, although strictly it should have worked with both links in. So I am pondering if there are also filters that stop special terms?
I didn’t notice he accepted “coons” by the way. But I am facing a mountain of work and thus need to stop studying the Zimmerman case for a while.
I listened to all of the tapes of the police interviews of Zimmerman, even the two phone calls just setting up a meeting in late March, after the public brou-ha-ha had come to a crescendo. A few things jumped out at me that I had not previously seen/heard/remembered.
1. In his initial explanation, George says “The bad guys always get away.” From then on, he keeps the POV of the “bad guys” and Serino at times assures him that he is “the good guy,” even while remarking that actually, Trayvon was not “a bad guy.”
2. George tries to do coptalk. He says he “lost visual” rather than “couldn’t see him any more,” for instance.
3. George claims that Martin circled the car, all the way around. He says that Martin was “probably a car length” away from the car while he circled it. ONCE he said that when Martin circled the car, he (GZ) rolled up his window. The other times he mentions this, he claims that the windows were already closed, since it was raining.
4. He claims that Martin disappeared into the darkness not once but TWICE. Once AFTER staring at Zimmerman but before Zimmerman got out of the car, and then AFTER reappearing, circling the car and then vanishing into the darkness again. So that would be DURING the call that Martin (a) was there “looking about” and eyeballing Zimmerman, (b) disappeared into the darkness, (c) emerged from the darkness; and (d) “ran” back into the darkness.
5. Zimmerman claims that Martin “jumped out from the bushes” and said, “What the F)(K’s your PROBLEM, Homie?” But then when asked, later on (quite a bit later on) if Martin used the word “homie,” Zimmerman said, “I don’t know.”
6. Zimmerman’s first account of reaching for his cell phone did not mention any difficulty finding it. He says he reached for his cell phone to call 911 and Martin “punched me in the nose.” After that, no more mention of the cell phone, in these accounts given to the police.
7. Zimmerman claims he was able to reach for his gun because when his jacket slid up, and Trayvon Martin stopped covering his mouth and nose and trying to smother him, he no longer needed his hands (?) so he could reach for his own gun as Trayvon Martin said, “You’re going to die tonight motherf)(ker.”
8. In Serino’s interview, he asks: “You followed this person?” Zimmerman’s immediate answer: “Yessir.”
9. In Serino’s interview, he asks: “You lost visual on this person?” Zimmerman’s immediate answer: “Yessir.”
10. In repeating what he has been told, Serino says, “You follow this person; you lose sight of this person..” and Zimmerman does not correct that statement. Serino continues, “He hits you a couple times, he jumped you.” … “He punched you; you fell” … “At what point did you draw your weapon?” Zimmerman says it was after his head was being slammed.
11. Zimmerman says, “He hit me several times, he yelled out for help…” and Serino interrupts, “Who yelled for help?” and Zimmerman answers, “I did.”
12. George says that after he shot Martin, he holstered his gun. Yet he says he was not sure that he had been able to subdue Martin, and he held his arms down and pinned him to the ground while asking the residents who showed up to help him subdue Martin.
13. When asked what he had said on the phone, Zimmerman said, “F–king goons.”
14. Serino assures Zimmerman over and over again in all the conversations that he is speaking for Zimmerman, that he is explaining for Zimmerman, telling others that Zimmerman is the “good guy” and that he had a good reason for everything he did. Yet he is dissatisfied with Zimmerman for not giving him answers that sound valid, so it is making it hard for Serino to “protect” him. He says that he has to explain why Zimmerman is not in jail.
15. In the second interview Serino did, he said to George, “You followed him in good faith,” and George does not correct him. This is right after Serino has assured him, “I’m here for you.”
16. Serino tells Zimmerman that if Martin had a history of many burglaries, the killing would have been “two thumbs up,” but since Martin wasn’t doing anything wrong, and wasn’t a criminal, it would be hard for Serino to “explain away.”
17. Serino does question George on an issue I had already found very puzzling: HOW did Martin slam his head on the concrete over and over again? Did he grab him by the ears? Zimmerman says, “I don’t remember.” Serino asks how many times George got punched in the nose. “I don’t remember.” George claims “they” told him his nose was broken.
18. Serino says that he got an anonymous tip from someone who claimed that Zimmerman was trying to detain Martin when the confrontation occurred. George denies it.
19. Serino says that Trayvon Martin had a “gunshot right through his heart. And he was unarmed.” George remains silent.
20. George claims to have suffered from five to thirty punches. Serino says that is “not consistent with your injuries.” Serino explains that George’s injuries are “capillary type cuts, lacerations, not really coincident with being slammed hard into the ground.” George is silent.
21. Serino says this is about figuring out the difference between a “good shoot and a bad shoot” as if it were a cop doing the shooting. But he adds, “You don’t have the authority,” then mentioning citizen’s arrests, if someone witnesses a crime in progress, saying, “we can make a citizen’s arrest” but he adds that “the child was not committing a felony.” He points out that it will be hard for him to “explain away” the shooting. Several times he uses these phrases: “I have to explain it away,” or “I have to speak for you,” or “I have to be able to explain that what you did was OK,” etc.
22. When George talks about his run-in with the ATF officers in 2005, he claims that the question asked was “What’s your problem?” He also insisted that the officer “grabbed” him first.
23. When Serino asks if Zimmerman told “this child” that he was Neighborhood Watch, Zimmerman rapidly answers, “No sir.” Why not? “I didn’t want to confront him.”
24. When Serino asked Zimmerman what he thought was Trayvon Martin’s reason to fly into a rage at him (Zimmerman), “other than the fact that you were following him,” Zimmerman says (nonsequitorially) that he had his hand in his waistband when he circled the car.
25. Serino’s words: “This is something I have to explain away.” Serino’s words: “I have to speak for YOU.” Again, “this is something else I have to explain away.” Adds, “I’m trying to say to everybody, ‘he’s a good guy.’” Asks, in some frustration, “How do I explain that one away? How do I do that?” But he reassures him, “You’re the good guy here.” [This just begins to sound like, “OK you were wrong but you’re still white.”] He actually says, “I’m trying to shield you from it.”
26. Serino asks, “Did he use the word ‘homie’?” Z: I don’t remember.
27. Serino: “I’m not trying to put you on the spot.” He suggests that perhaps Martin “thought you were some kind of wierdo.” Z is silent.
28. Serino says “All I can do is try to keep you from going down, criminally or civilly…” He says he wants to fight the perception that Zimmerman was trying to “play John Wayne trying to take down this kid.”
29. On Feb. 29, another Serino interview, Serino plays the non-emergency call tape to Zimmerman and intersperses questions and comments with clips from the tape. He comments, “OK you jumped out of the car to see where he was going” — Z does not object.
30. Same day. He asks Zimmerman what he said about the “f–king [whoevers]” and George fills in the words: “f–king punks.” Quickly Serino interjects, “He WASN’T a f–king punk!” George is silent.
31. When Serino points out that there were 84 seconds for a certain length of the trip and that if Zimmerman was returning to his car, he should have gotten there much sooner, George cannot explain. Serino observes, “It sounds like you do not recall.” Serino offers: “I am speaking for you; I am trying to protect you.”
32. Serino says: “You want to catch him, the f–king punk who can’t get away,” and adds, “We’re not in the interrogation room,” and assures Zimmerman, “We’re working for you here.”
33. The two cops conducting the interview are not “good cop, bad cop.” They’re both “good cop,” but both of them point out that the story George is telling is not adding up. That is the most bizarre part of this whole thing. The cops know it doesn’t make sense and that George’s version of what happened that night doesn’t match the physical reality; George also knows that. But he doesn’t come up with anything other than the repetition that he (a) was not following Martin; and (b) that he was just jumped and beaten mercilessly for no reason; and that (c) he can’t remember anything about the parts that don’t make sense.
THIS POST IS OUT OF ORDER– PRIOR 2 COMMENTS SHOULD PROCEED IT –IT WAS AWAITING MODERATION.
Oh and one more thing (shades of Columbo):
Serino asks him, about shooting Trayvon Martin, “at point-blank range?” Zimmerman says, “yes, sir.”
My comment awaits moderation.
It’s 33 points I was making about the tapes of George Z’s interviews with the cops in Feb. and March.
I think when I quoted him in there somewhere I must have left one of the words in there. Words either he or Serino used. Strange, Zimmerman DENIED using the “F” word back to Trayvon Martin at the point where he says Trayvon Martin used the “F” word to HIM. Serino asks him if he might have answered, for instance, “I don’t have an effin problem” and he answers, “no.”
So he would have it that although Trayvon Martin was a thug from the outset, he was a gentleman throughout — oh, except for killing the kid.
Thanks, Sling, X 100.
Thanks, Leander, X 100.
What great work!
Manny,
http://zimmermanscall.blogspot.com
It has been updated after the release of the material by the defence.
I would be interested in your reaction to a careful analysis of the walk through v. the Call.
You agree that at the end of the call, Zimmerman had changed from agreeing to a meet at the mailboxes to the patrol calling him.?
You agree tat at the end of the call, that another 2 minutes and 30 seconds had to elapse before the first 911 call connects?
You agree that the distance from where Zimmerman says the call ended, to the location where he says the confrontation started is less than 100 feet?
You agree that this distance would be covered in 20 to 30 seconds at a walking pace.
You agree that Zimmerman is heard to get out of the truck immediately after “he’s running “?
You agree that the Dispatcher never asked about an address or asked about where Martin had gone until after Zimmerman got out of the truck.
Where was Zimmerman when he said “OK” to “We don’t need you to do that”?
How did Zimmerman.’s actions ¥ change ¥ after “OK”?
Manny, why would I want to inform Harvard? I am sure some of the profs there share my opinion, some immediately come to mind.
The Dersh happens to be the nemesis of someone I hold in high esteem, yes, he commands legions of wilful helpers acting as multipliers in the enforcement of his will, but they are never people that impress me very much intellectually. I found it rather sickening to watch over the decades. I still pass over the contributions of these troops on two academic lists I read. I give you a hint. If the late Raul Hilberg was one of my dearest spiritual friends sided in some of these debates with “my friend” and not with Dersh, that is good enough for me. Hilberg actually knows what he is talking about. There is hardly anything someone can do to drive me more up the walls, then to call a person that survived Majdanek a Kapo, for the simple reason she survived, and believe me I know some survivors and even more stories of survivors, not only the ones you may have in mind. I read the documents of a a trial close to here in Germany, to which Finkelstein accompanied his mother in his early teens.
All you need to find Sling Trebuchet’s site is to put her name into Google and add Zimmerman. Very easy to find really. And as Malisha I am impressed by the work she has put into it. Well done, and in progress. Zimmerman’s side is clearly overrepresented on the net, at least that is my impression.
Leander – So maybe you should call Harvard Law and let them now Dershowitz is a clown so they can clean house. Harvard Law…pfft what a clown of an institution to have a clown like Dershowitz on board.
That doesnt sound crazy at all…oh wait it does. Nevermind
He’s not the only one incensed at Corey, he is just the most famous and outspoken.
It really is overcharging and it really is a disgrace for murder 2. Look at some real murder 2 cases and there is NO COMPARISON. Not even close.
You don’t need to be at Harvard Law to figure that one out, but it doesn’t hurt.
Malisha/Sling – I got lost through all the 1126 previous posts and links in this incredibly long comment thread…can you re-post the excellent Sling webpage link that was referenced above that has the bottom line spelled out regarding the assertion that Z could not traverse a certain distance in a certain amount of time? I would really like to check it out
Maybe I should dedicate a page of it’s own to the question of the circling happening at the clubhouse, rather than in Twin Trees.
The more I listen to the recording, the more I’m convinced that this was so.
Zimmerman’s walk through just didn’t work with the times and distances.
They work perfectly for circling/close encounter at the clubhouse.
The contradictions in the walk through v.the call are crazy enough.
The circling thing makes Zimmerman look totally unhinged.
I don’t see how anyone who examines the walk through the call in detail could possibly consider Zimmerman’s account of the struggle to be reality.
The man is mentally ill. He’s hallucinating
Manny O, I am not impressed by anything Dershowitz said (because it is so ridiculous and so easily disproven) but I a impressed that he actually had the intestinal fortitude to keep pressing his now obviously wrong point. I did not know that Harvard didn’t think much of him; it has increased my respect for that institution (which needed to be increased).
But let’s look at what he said, again, with the idea that he is rapid about his attack on Corey and that it is not his problem if his take on the case is all wrong because he is not standing in O’Mara’s shoes so he can say anything he wants:
Here: “Zimmerman said he wasn’t running; it was just windy.”
But if you work out the timing of the call and the distances traveled (See Sling Trebuchet’s excellent webpage), if he wasn’t running he had to be flying.
“Legal analysts who are watching the case closely said the re-enactment video benefits Zimmerman, because it shows him telling his self-defense account clearly and convincingly.”
He’s telling it “clearly” but it would only convince someone who had no physical evidence to compare it with.
“For George Zimmerman, this is one big positive,” said Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz, who has had a public scrap with the prosecutor Gov. Rick Scott appointed to the case, Angela Corey. “If it’s admitted in court, he is not subject to cross examination and then that makes it harder for the prosecution.”
“If it’s admitted in court” — why would any prosecutor be interested in admitting GEORGE’S LITTLE VIDEO unless George wanted to testify as to what he said in that video? The prosecution doesn’t need to show anybody what GEORGE said happened! They will show what THEY said happened. Then if he wants to contest that version, let him testify and — uh oh — a few inconsistent statements and statements that can be disproven and he’s in deep doo doo.
“Dershowitz said he’s not sure if the defense, however, can submit the video statements as evidence. The prosecution might have to do that. And it probably won’t, he said, because it makes Corey look bad.”
Well Dershowitz is right to say he’s “not sure if the defense, however, can submit the video statements as evidence.” They can only do that if they want to let George be cross-examined. The prosecution is not going to avoid putting the videos up because they would make Corey look bad; that’s so illogical as to be ridiculous. They would only make Corey look bad if they were something better than GEORGE’S OWN VERSION. Any criminal defendant could make a video of himself telling his own story and if some fool wanted to believe it, would that make the prosecutor “look bad” for not also believing it? It’s the height of absurdity.
George’s statements, all created to make HIM look good after he shot an innocent kid, cannot make ANYBODY look bad unless they are put on at trial by the defense and if that happens, they will make George look bad because he lied.
“Corey and Dershowitz have had a public battle over what he considers a grossly overcharged case and an unethical probable-cause affidavit filed in court, which failed to mention Zimmerman’s broken nose and scraped head.”
Corey was not required to mention Zimmerman’s “broken nose” because even now there is no (a) evidence of it and no (b) relevance to it; and his “scraped head” has not been proven by pictures that were not kept in a way that they could even be used by the defense. Remember what O’Mara said about the pictures — he’s not even sure he wants to open up that can of worms.
The affidavit Corey filed “knowingly tells a false story,” Dershowitz said. “She overcharged. But that’s her reputation: She over-charges. If Rick Scott wanted to avoid a riot and make sure that George Zimmerman was overcharged, he picked the right prosecutor.”
This is Dershowitz’s bluster and this is his point. With the point “Corey has to be disbarred and disgraced and I’m the one to do it” Dershowitz has lost all semblance of attention to the real issues in this real case. If he thinks that only the threat of a race riot made Corey charge Zimmerman with murder, then so be it; that’s his problem. He should try to get some excellent organization filled with Harvard lawyers to sue Corey in a federal court claiming deprivation of Zimmerman’s right to kill kids “under color of state law.” I dare him. I want to see that.
Cheney Mason, an Orlando criminal defense attorney who helped successfully defend accused “tot-mom” killer Casey Anthony last year, said the reenactment video is just more proof that “Zimmerman shouldn’t have been charged in the first place.”
I’m not impressed with that either. Plenty of people thought that Zimmerman should get away with murder, and Mason being one of them is no big deal.
Manny O, there are PLENTY of people in prison who have stories that are radically different from the stories told by the prosecutors in their cases. If we HAD to believe all those defendants, none of those people would have been convicted. No matter how many people want to climb on board Zimmerman’s band wagon and exonerate him, where it stands now (in spite of Dershowitz’s screams and blusters and fussing and fuming and accusing and libeling and slandering etc.) is that physical evidence, witness reports and recorded statements CONTEMPORANEOUS with the act all seem to tell a story that George Zimmerman does NOT tell.
We shall see where the reasonable doubt falls. I reasonably doubt not only Zimmerman’s story but also his credibility per se. Dershowitz can believe him whole-heartedly and that’s his privilege.
Betty, there he was again looking over my shoulder. Really angry he looked and just now he pointed his stiff finger at several details that don’t quite fit. This grammar guy is really a bit nerve-stretching.
Or did the black disappeared over the day?
Yes he is correct, no past needed there, but that’s what happens if you start cutting, pasting and changing on the way. 😉
something missing:
would I find you among the people that argued George’s nose punch would only leave a black eye next day.
Were you?
Some people seem to perceive George’s nose is swollen, and there are bandages on his nose the next day, we were told. I find that a bit hard to see, admittedly. Maybe I should get a magnifier. Or did the black disappeared over the day? Mine always last over a week in changing colors.
What do you think about the fact, that George initially wants to start with his neighbor and his wife than corrects himself and leaves the start of the written statement out? But more importantly, don’t you find it interesting that the man on his side asks him if the guy was standing at the house. It’s almost hilarious how eagerly he picks that up. It wasn’t in his statement the evening before.
Nice story, at points maybe close, and don’t worry he will get away, but not good enough to convince us.
I am really pleased that bits the mosaic completes. I do not have much time, but when in his tale TM “cuts” around the corner, I wondered if he could have termed Twin Trees a cut through too?
But not much time at the moment. But “the Dersh” does not count, he is a clown.
Manny, It’s clear that Dershowitz hasn’t really looked at the evidence. He’s got a thing about Corey and he’s seeing everything thru that looking glass. He’s believing everything that Z has to say. But if you look at the evidence in detail you see that Z has made stuff up and there is other stuff that he hasn’t accounted for. I expect the prosecutors will look very carefully at all the evidence and will be able to show that Z’s story just doesn’t work.
Manny, if I would go back to search, would I find you among the people that George’s black eye only shows next day?
Now this is the next day. 😉