We have heard repeatedly how successful our Afghanistan campaign has been after thousands of dead Americans and hundreds of billions of dollars. That does not exactly fit with the announcement yesterday that the U.S. military will now longer allow U.S. forces to do joint field operations. This is not because of the threat of the Taliban but the Afghan soldiers themselves who have been regularly shooting their American allies at checkpoints and operations.
Afghan soldiers have shot NATO soldiers 36 times this year and killed 51. Most of the dead and wounded are Americans. The latest were four American and two British troops killed by their brothers in arms.
Notably, the U.S. admits that only 10 to 25 percent of the attacks are the result of enemy infiltrators. The rest are simply Afghan allies who view the U.S. as more dangerous than the Taliban. I wonder who gave them that idea . . .
Source: CBS
Billie 1, September 18, 2012 at 9:23 pm
( Bron )
Thank you for asking about my son….
My son is Ok… but it has been nation wide news about my son…The Movie…with Tommy Lee Jones… The Book…News Week….48 hours mystery…G.Q. magazine ….Playboy magazine…Army Times… UPI out of Washington…. my son was going across the desert back in 2003 as a gunner on a Bradley and sniper.. sad to say all that death really messed with his head… the soldiers from the 3rd ID infantry found him in the tent and he had taken many pills that the Army had been prescribing to him… he was on suicide watch for 72 hours … a RN signed a form to send him to the mental hospital in Germany… no way the commander in charge of the 3rd ID said NO he is going home with the 3rd ID he is a hero……
My son came home July 7, 2003 and was being escorted by MP’s to the hospital at Fort Benning… scared me…I didn’t know what was wrong with my son…. my husband and I and my son’s dad all sat at the emergency room for 6 hours and he got a 5 minute evaluation over the phone by a Child psychiatrist and he released him…well I though my son is going to be with me for the next 4 days he will be OK… and he was proud soldier and man… he didn’t tell me that he tried to take his own life in Iraq… I could see this darkness about him and I made him promise me to please go to the hospital first thing Monday morning… we dropped him off at the barracks on a Sunday afternoon at 3:00pm and my husband and I headed back to Florida…
My son’s car got stolen while he was gone… his fault he didn’t take it to the proper compound to be locked up and someone stole it out of the parking lot….
That Monday morning I tried calling my son and couldn’t reach him… I didn’t hear from my son until November 7th at 11:15 am in the morning when his dad called me from Ocala…. His dad told me that my son had been arrested for Murder… when in fact he went back to Fort Benning and turned himself and the other three young soldiers in ….
You may have seen this on the news… the media was camped out at my doorstep for 3 days …. Back in Iraq these 2 soldiers were caught raping a 12 or 13 yr old girl at Baghdad airport… the soldier that caught them was going to turn them in…they came after him in Iraq and cut him all up… it followed them back to the States… and these 2 soldiers came over to Kelly Hill at Fort Benning to pick up the soldier and take him out to party… and my son said hey man can I catch a ride… it went down hill from there…. Alberto Martinez stabbed Richard Davis 33 times 4 miles outside the gates of Fort Benning…. and my son was present… it went down hill from there…..
I was law enforcement in Florida and my husband was law enforcement he was killed 5 years ago…. I went to Georgia to be close to my son and was state investigator in Atlanta….
did my son do some wrong doing…yes he did… they all ran and the body laid there 2 months… my son went AWOL along with one of the other soldiers and the one that murdered him got out of the Army and went back to Calf. to the gang he belonged to… My son went back to Fort Benning and turned himself in and the others and he was the DA star witness and was on the stand for 5 hours telling the truth about that night… he pointed to them all and said we are all guilty… My son told me that truth would set him free…. as long as I was law enforcement and my late husband we never saw anyone walk into the Sheriffs office saying please arrest me I have just murdered someone or raped someone…. I have never see that happen.
This changed 5 family’s lives forever…Alberto Martinez and Mario got life in prison plus 15 years and Woodcoff got 9 months in jail 5 years probation and is no longer a felon… my son got slammed with 20 years… and its been 9 years… we never know where life is going to take us… my son is a good man and my only child… if I could trade place with him I would…I have lived my life and I want to him to have his…
So I might piss off some people…. but I say Shame on the United States Army for not taking care of these Soldiers coming home from Iraq… and the drugs they were pumping into my son was just crazy…. I have 28 pages of medical records that my son smuggled back from Iraq… they are devastating to read… 48 hours showed a few of them on the show they have aired 5 or 6 times ….. they diagnosed my son with PTSD he has demons still today…and he won’t get the proper help he needs until he comes home I hope in 3 or 4 years… we do the time together every weekend…
Needless to say I’m a mother that is not happy with the United States Army or our government…. for not taking care of my son when he came home from Iraq…. he gave 110 percent of himself to the Army and was E5 the war really messed with his head… hell it would mine… all the death he saw over there… he did about 14 months off and on…
Fort Benning was out of control back in 2003 and 2004 they shut down Kelly Hill because the soldiers had guns and grenades in there lockers and in the trunk of there cars… crazy…. hell I got death threats back than and was told don’t come near the base…
9 years have gone by and I’m I am still at it ….trying to get things straight with my son’s DD214 and have met so many nice people through this tragedy…. If I was granted one wish …it would be bring back Richard Davis… to his family it was there only son also… no one won in this …all so sad all way around…. so am I angry at the Unites States Army you bet I am…. these soldiers go to war and give it there all…. and come home and the United States Army tosses them away like a piece of trash…well these young men they did…. Fort Benning closed there doors and moved people around so no would would talk to anyone… it was crazy back than… sad sad day…
I love my son and he is my best friend…. its just what mothers do…. well this mother anyway… I will be at it until the day I die to make sure he is OK and had a life when he comes home….
Everyone has to make sure there loved ones are OK when they come home because the United States Army will not…. they spend all this money to teach them to kill but can’t take care of them when they come home…. That is why I say bring all our soldiers home from every country…. NOW just my story…I am sure there are many out there…just watch the news…
A loving Mother………
Just wondering how many people know that every year around November 12, 13, 14, about 17 thousand people protest outside the gates at Fort Benning??? Columbus Georgia…. been there and seen it…I asked someone there a few years ago what are you all protesting?? He told me they are tired of Fort Benning bring men and woman from other country’s to train them to fight and kill….. so they can go back to there country and kill our military when war breaks out…. how crazy is that… and they have been protesting for about 15 years now…and about 20 to 40 get arrested every year…for crossing the line and going on to the base…. I was shocked….
Bring our Military home…. All of them… let them all work out there own problems…. we have enough problems here in the United States that our Government can’t get straight…
money …..Power….control…is what its all about…. Just Saying
Bonnie,
It got deathly quiet after your comment. I can understand why if it is due to the terrible picture you give us.
Let me thank you for sharing it with us. My words are not adequate so wiil be silent.
Until politicians, plutocrats, and the one percent are prepared to send their children, then war should be outlawed. How will we protect ourselves? That can be solved too, but only if there is a will.
Once upon a time there was a nation known as the Soviet Union. They had large armies and essentially won the war against the Germans in 1939-1945. Then they had a sphere of influence behind what is called the Iron Curtain. In the seventies they invaded one of the Stan countries called Afghanistan. We in America made it our business to stir up resistance and paid and encouraged such groups as the Muslim Brotherhood to run them out. The Soviets, for all their ill deeds, did do some things like encourage secular life and advance the status of women. Then the Soviets leave. The Soviet Union dissolves. 9/11 comes along. We invade. Not our sphere of influence. Gotta go. The Muslim Brotherhood is smiling. Can we not pay the Russians to go back and resume some control in this particular Stan country?
Once again…. the JOKE is on US, because we elect STUPID leaders….
( Bron )
Thank you for asking about my son….
My son is Ok… but it has been nation wide news about my son…The Movie…with Tommy Lee Jones… The Book…News Week….48 hours mystery…G.Q. magazine ….Playboy magazine…Army Times… UPI out of Washington…. my son was going across the desert back in 2003 as a gunner on a Bradley and sniper.. sad to say all that death really messed with his head… the soldiers from the 3rd ID infantry found him in the tent and he had taken many pills that the Army had been prescribing to him… he was on suicide watch for 72 hours … a RN signed a form to send him to the mental hospital in Germany… no way the commander in charge of the 3rd ID said NO he is going home with the 3rd ID he is a hero……
My son came home July 7, 2003 and was being escorted by MP’s to the hospital at Fort Benning… scared me…I didn’t know what was wrong with my son…. my husband and I and my son’s dad all sat at the emergency room for 6 hours and he got a 5 minute evaluation over the phone by a Child psychiatrist and he released him…well I though my son is going to be with me for the next 4 days he will be OK… and he was proud soldier and man… he didn’t tell me that he tried to take his own life in Iraq… I could see this darkness about him and I made him promise me to please go to the hospital first thing Monday morning… we dropped him off at the barracks on a Sunday afternoon at 3:00pm and my husband and I headed back to Florida…
My son’s car got stolen while he was gone… his fault he didn’t take it to the proper compound to be locked up and someone stole it out of the parking lot….
That Monday morning I tried calling my son and couldn’t reach him… I didn’t hear from my son until November 7th at 11:15 am in the morning when his dad called me from Ocala…. His dad told me that my son had been arrested for Murder… when in fact he went back to Fort Benning and turned himself and the other three young soldiers in ….
You may have seen this on the news… the media was camped out at my doorstep for 3 days …. Back in Iraq these 2 soldiers were caught raping a 12 or 13 yr old girl at Baghdad airport… the soldier that caught them was going to turn them in…they came after him in Iraq and cut him all up… it followed them back to the States… and these 2 soldiers came over to Kelly Hill at Fort Benning to pick up the soldier and take him out to party… and my son said hey man can I catch a ride… it went down hill from there…. Alberto Martinez stabbed Richard Davis 33 times 4 miles outside the gates of Fort Benning…. and my son was present… it went down hill from there…..
I was law enforcement in Florida and my husband was law enforcement he was killed 5 years ago…. I went to Georgia to be close to my son and was state investigator in Atlanta….
did my son do some wrong doing…yes he did… they all ran and the body laid there 2 months… my son went AWOL along with one of the other soldiers and the one that murdered him got out of the Army and went back to Calf. to the gang he belonged to… My son went back to Fort Benning and turned himself in and the others and he was the DA star witness and was on the stand for 5 hours telling the truth about that night… he pointed to them all and said we are all guilty… My son told me that truth would set him free…. as long as I was law enforcement and my late husband we never saw anyone walk into the Sheriffs office saying please arrest me I have just murdered someone or raped someone…. I have never see that happen.
This changed 5 family’s lives forever…Alberto Martinez and Mario got life in prison plus 15 years and Woodcoff got 9 months in jail 5 years probation and is no longer a felon… my son got slammed with 20 years… and its been 9 years… we never know where life is going to take us… my son is a good man and my only child… if I could trade place with him I would…I have lived my life and I want to him to have his…
So I might piss off some people…. but I say Shame on the United States Army for not taking care of these Soldiers coming home from Iraq… and the drugs they were pumping into my son was just crazy…. I have 28 pages of medical records that my son smuggled back from Iraq… they are devastating to read… 48 hours showed a few of them on the show they have aired 5 or 6 times ….. they diagnosed my son with PTSD he has demons still today…and he won’t get the proper help he needs until he comes home I hope in 3 or 4 years… we do the time together every weekend…
Needless to say I’m a mother that is not happy with the United States Army or our government…. for not taking care of my son when he came home from Iraq…. he gave 110 percent of himself to the Army and was E5 the war really messed with his head… hell it would mine… all the death he saw over there… he did about 14 months off and on…
Fort Benning was out of control back in 2003 and 2004 they shut down Kelly Hill because the soldiers had guns and grenades in there lockers and in the trunk of there cars… crazy…. hell I got death threats back than and was told don’t come near the base…
9 years have gone by and I’m I am still at it ….trying to get things straight with my son’s DD214 and have met so many nice people through this tragedy…. If I was granted one wish …it would be bring back Richard Davis… to his family it was there only son also… no one won in this …all so sad all way around…. so am I angry at the Unites States Army you bet I am…. these soldiers go to war and give it there all…. and come home and the United States Army tosses them away like a piece of trash…well these young men they did…. Fort Benning closed there doors and moved people around so no would would talk to anyone… it was crazy back than… sad sad day…
I love my son and he is my best friend…. its just what mothers do…. well this mother anyway… I will be at it until the day I die to make sure he is OK and had a life when he comes home….
Everyone has to make sure there loved ones are OK when they come home because the United States Army will not…. they spend all this money to teach them to kill but can’t take care of them when they come home…. That is why I say bring all our soldiers home from every country…. NOW just my story…I am sure there are many out there…just watch the news…
A loving Mother………
Dredd,
The U.S. forces are now there to do what they always do,
When I got skin in the game, I pay attention to the game. When the skin comes home. I pay 90% less attention. This is true, it is not balanced. This is simply human. I am disgusted with my internal values clock. When the skin is home, I sigh with relief. I am talking out of my hat, yet truly.
I am for a draft. Numbers, birthdates and names…period. let the occasional 0.1%er skin be there. The occasional congressmans blood be there. The occasional Wall st. master flesh be there. Then equality will ring.
A country that buys protection, is slave to the treasure that buys its freedom. Our treasure in the US is money. The masters supply it, and our youth is its fodder./ …..Not the masters youth/….. the serfs youth./
. Serfs are expendable, the masters have the ability to buy lots of our common youth,
…Both sides have the same ability.
Youth, individual dreams, and justice for the commons are trampled.
The name of liberty and freedom in this country is manipulated for the benefit and enhancement of the Uber Lords .
Peace to humanity, will begin with knowledge and respect for humanity. Not some isolated 0.1% of us.
idealist707 1, September 18, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I don’t like swimning, so I suggest we let the coal lie there it is for now.
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It’s been there for a long time. It isn’t going anywhere unless we dig it out. Use the oil instead.
When there isn’t any oil left, we still have the coal.
What do the Saudi’s have when there isn’t any oil left? Sand.
Well, yeah, getting a pipeline through Azerbaijan might be tough, and Georgia is no better.
So remains the Russian alternative. I concede we should buy.
I don’t like swimning, so I suggest we let the coal lie there it is for now.
ID707,
I think you already have the answer.
Matt,
Just for kicks. Isn’t the Caspian just a short overland bit to the Black Sea, which in turn is open to the Mediterranean? (Haven’t checked Google Maps yet.)
So, WTF do we want to pipe it over PakAf territory?
Answer me that please.
Last Friday Camp Bastion was attacked by 3 heavily armed teams of attackers wearing American uniforms- they killed 2, wounded 19 and did 200,000,000$ worth of material. It’s the last act in a dramatic uptick in violence against American/NATO forces.
There is a 30 sec commercial and it starts out as a story about what Romney isn’t campaigning on/talking about but it’s a good update from Maddow:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#49067862
With all due respect to Matt, but I can’t buy it.
Maybe he was joking. ??? I usually miss those things.
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Do you want oil, or not? You’re not going to build a pipeline through Afghanistan and Pakistan. They will keep bombing it. The only way you’re going to get oil from that part of the world is if the Russians do it.
I have said this before. There is more fossil fuel energy in the form of coal in the continental United States than all the known oil reserves on the planet.
Has everyone forgotten the Ron Paul video where was depicted a foreign army coming into Texas, and how we would react to the deeds which our army are doing in Afghanistan and formerly in Iraq. This is not my endorsement of Paul, but I thought the analogy was telling.
Would we join up, bought as we were, with our Chinese “comrades in arms” to kill American citizens who foought for their freedom to choose which stupid politician and which stupid policy which suit us to support.
Would we be surprised that some of these American impressed (?) soldiers would tire of serving our Chinese invaders, and take action for our American cause.
Seems to agree with how I see this “brother in arms” BS.
With all due respect to Matt, but I can’t buy it.
Maybe he was joking. ??? I usually miss those things.