We have another outrage involving cultural and religious prejudices against rape victims. In Indonesia, a 14-year-old girl was expelled as “tarnished” after she was raped.
The private school just outside Jakarta expelled the teenager during a formal ceremony for “tarnish[ing] the school’s image.”
As mystifying as it seems to most of us, some parts of the world view victims as blameworthy for being raped. Other victims have faced worse treatment than expulsion in areas following Sharia law.
Source: Timeslive
Blouise,
He thinks he catches heat for liking “to get progressives off their high horse sometimes”. Do you really think he’s going to learn that he’s not the button pusher he thinks he is? Really?
nick,
I know some true liberals/progressives–I have also known NIMBY liberals. They are no better than the holier than “thou-ers.”
I hate to invoke a “Todd” but perhaps they thought that she was like Jane Doe or Roe and not “legitimately” raped. Perhaps she was like the Prophet Mohammed’s 9 year old wife who did not really consent and was thus raped by her new husband. Perhaps…. this is in Indonesia.
I always wanted to know who this “thou” is? 🙂
Ah nick, you keep trying to push Elaine’s buttons and refuse to see that she has none. She’s a hidden zipper and lord help you if she ever decides to compose a poem in your honor. 🙄
“As mystifying as it seems to most of us, some parts of the world view victims as blameworthy for being raped. Other victims have faced worse treatment than expulsion in areas following Sharia law.”
That is the fundamental essence of Ayn Rand followers’ misinterpretation of various OT scriptures.
Elaine, We are in agreement. Regarding your last point, being a member of neither club I have a different perspective. Both camps are often holier than thou. But, I deal w/ people as they come. And since I socialize w/ all types of people culturally, racial, religious, socioeconmic, etc., their political leanings mean little to me. I know conservatives holier than thou and not. The same for progressives.
SWM, Maybe a distinction w/o a difference? Maybe not. Your kids must be smart and I know what you say about relief w/ their choice. Thanks for the info about U. of Chicago. My hope has been that w/ all the bad publicity universities would become forthcoming. But you know all institutions are to varying degrees resistant to change. Many folks don’t realize that Yale and Columbia are in horrible neighborhoods.
http://www.uchicago.edu/community/safety/reports/historical/
OS, We are in TOTAL agreement. I worked a civil case when I worked in Chicago involving Jewel Food stores. The store had several assaults, including 2 rapes in their parking lot. The plaintiff in this case was raped and murdered in their lot. However, Jewel made no changes to their lighting[always a big plaintiff argument in rape cases @ motels, shopping centers, etc.] and did not hire a security company, as had other businesses in the area, prior to the woman’s murder. Jewel paid big. There were allegations made by the plaintiff that Jewel suppressed reports since they were such a big advertiser[Jewel is the biggest supermarket chain in Chicago] they had the influence w/ newspapers and tv to suppress. The plaintiff had no smoking gun on that issue and the case settled.
Blouise, You have a great sense of humor and as I’ve said, I can take ballbusting.
nick, I have been to the University of Chicago many times, and the crime statistics for the surrounding area are available on the school’s website. The school issues warnings periodically. Both of my children were recruited by the school but after touring both decided against it for undergrad, and I was a little relieved. Crime in the surrounding area is different than rape committed by students.
nick,
I mean ALL kinds of institutions and organizations: colleges and universities, churches, the Boy Scouts, BBC, etc. I doubt it matters whether they are conservative or progressive. I think people in charge of institutions try to protect them from scandal. Don’t you?
You thought progressives were supposed to be better than those holier than thou conservative family values people and Moral Majority folks?
Nick,
I think Elaine was using the generic “institution.” That would include large organizations of all kinds, both public and private. We know the military does it. Public and private schools do it–the latest high profile example being Penn State. Even shopping malls try to suppress news of rapes or robberies in their parking lot. I worked a case many years ago where a Holiday Inn security guard captured a wanted serial rapist trying to drag a woman out of her car in their parking lot. The management of the Inn was not happy the story ended up on the front page of the paper. They would have much preferred the story be buried on a back page.
Perhaps the beginning of my exit from the Catholic church was a religion class in high school (1970) where I was told that while raping someone was a sin, being raped was a worse sin.
nick,
“However, I thought progressives were supposed to be better.”
I’m a progressive and I don’t think I’m better than anybody. But I know a lot of people who are worse than me. 😉
Elaine, What do you mean when you say, “institutions?” If you mean universities you have to realize the vast majority of universties are lberal. There are conservative ones, but they are a distinct minority. The U. of Chicago is maybe the most presigious and well known conservative university. I don’t know if you’ve ever been to that campus, but Hyde Park is a small enclave surrounded by some of the most crime ridden neighborhoods in the country. I’m certain they have a huge problem w/ rape and other crimes and I would bet they also suppress, but I don’t know that. However, I thought progressives were supposed to be better. If saying they’re the same in this regard “gets you through the night, well that’s alright.” I just like to get progressives off their high horse sometimes. That’s why I take a lot of fire here. Fire away, Elaine.
Lots of people came out of their caves and voted for Todd Aiken and Richard Mourdock:
Unofficially there are 1,063,698 pro-legitimate-rape citizens who voted for Aiken in Missouri and 1,126,832 pro-God-directed-rape citizens who voted for Mourdock in Indiana.
Now I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest a great many of these citizens are Christians and very much a part of and participants in our culture.
Woosty….. I was gonna include that….. Presently there is a case going on in San Antonio regarding the military…..rape etc…..
Elaine….. That’s what I was referencing….. Thank you for putting it out here…
nick,
I think most institutions suppress information about rapes and other crimes.
I’ve had out of state people hire me to do background checks on the U.of Wi. and some of their branches, including specific student housing areas. We’ve not only had many rapes, but two unsolved murders. Supposedly progressive universities suppress information parents need to make informed decisions. The info is there, but you have to dig. I love to dig.