Send God, Guns, and Money: Sandy Hook Shooting Becomes Rallying Point For Political Advocates

praying_hands[1]300px-M4-TransparentThe murder of 20 children and six adults at the Sandy Hook Elementary has spawned an array of commentary from calls for new gun controls to greater funding for mental illness in the United States. However, Fox commentator and former GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said that the shooting was not surprising after the removal of prayer from public schools. Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Republican from Texas, did one better, he wished God ensured that Principal says Dawn Hochsprung had an M-4 assault rifle at the school before she was killed.

Gohmert told Fox News “I wish to God she had an M-4 in her office locked up so when she heard gunfire she pulls it out and she didn’t have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands but she takes him out, takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids.” Wouldn’t it be a bit more direct to pray that God had stopped Lanza from going to the school or that he was institutionalized before his mass murder?

If school teachers are now to be armed, wouldn’t the teachers have to carry around their assault rifles at all time since they would not know when an attack would occur? Indeed, given the low likelihood of such an attack, should they also be equipped with ebola-medical kits, rabies treatment packs, floatation devices, and other equipment for more likely threats. The average soldier, after all, carries as much as 135 pounds depending on their unit. Should our teachers carry less to protect our children?

As for prayer, is that what caused Lanza (with a history of mental illness) to kill? Lack of school prayer. His first murder was at home. After shooting his mother in the face, would Lanza have hesitated at the schoolhouse gate because he recalled morning prayers in civics class? By the way, those terrorists we read about daily do a lot of praying. It does not seem to have the same impact on them.

Putting aside the desire to try a tragedy to a favorite cause, there is often a search for meaning in tragedies. The most frightening thought is that such a terrible loss would not have meaning. It was an unspeakable crime committed by an unstable person. We are all emotionally shredded by this tragedy. However, we know that this is likely to happen again. Even with gun controls, people will still have guns, which are constitutionally protected. Some will have multiple guns. We do not have to shrug and do nothing. There is a need to better deal with mental illness in this country. It was not that long ago that another unstable young man committed a massacre at Virginia Tech. However, as with gun controls, it is not clear that much would have changed in this case. Lanza’s mother decided to keep him at home and tried to deal with his instability on her own. If a parent keeps a child at home and addresses such problems privately, it is doubtful that new programs would have had any impact.

Nevertheless, I would prefer to discuss expanded mental health programs over assault weapons in schools as a starting point of any reforms.

Source: Hill

310 thoughts on “Send God, Guns, and Money: Sandy Hook Shooting Becomes Rallying Point For Political Advocates”

  1. The UK with a population of 602 million had only 51 gun homicides in 2011 while the US had over 10,000. -Walter Zwick

    Correction to population: ~ 62 million plus’

    Thanks for the good UK info.

  2. No one should give a law of what is said to be consent. That is an arbitrary law. The law of people is like that. That mentality will also pervert scripture too making people make more, and more translations saying Hmm no that’s not right try this, and on, and on that goes like gossip having the word stray farther, and farther away from what God interned the word to mean. People also forget how Jesus is who is the word made flesh. Gods law is so simple it confuses the human mind. Judge yourself. That means it does not matter what age is with you. What matter is who is in you, .Jesus or the devil. It is an individual choice. Eternal life doing what Jesus would to which is good or not=- eternal death.
    The human mind in confusion will make more, and more laws to confuse people thinking they are not being confused holding themselves in bondage with their own laws.

  3. As an American who has lived in Europe for over 40 years, I am continually amazed by my country’s ability to regulate gun ownership and usage. Following the 1996 Dunblane massacre Britain tightened its already strict gun laws. Australia did the same after the Port Arthur incident of the same year. Neither county has had a single mass killing since.

    The essence of the UK law is the following

    1. No automatic weapons are allowed for any purpose.
    2. Every gun owner must be licensed for each gun.
    3. Every gun must be kept in a secure safe and only the licensed owner may have a key.
    4. Only licensed gun owners may purchase ammunition and only in limited quantities for a gun the are licensed to own.
    5. To obtain a license, the owner must how a need for the gun being licensed. Self defense is never an accepted reason.
    6. To obtain a license, the prospective gun owner must provide references and be interviewed by the police.
    7. No person who has ever received a prison sentence of over 5 years my get a gun license.
    8. No person who has received any custodial sentence may even apply for a license.
    9. There are strict conditions preventing those who being treated or have been treated for mental illness from receiving a license.
    10.Only specially authorized security staff may carry a gun or have a loaded gun in any vehicle. There is no right-to-carry for ordinary citizens.
    11. There a stiff prison sentences and draconian fines for any violation of the gun laws.

    As a result, The UK with a population of 602 million had only 51 gun homicides in 2011 while the US had over 10,000.

    Will someone please do something.

  4. AP,

    Redundancy is never possible in a good cause. The message in its variations have to be repeated for it to penetrate. Look at commercials. Are they redundant? Sure as hell are, with a purpose.

    We must act together to remove the self-produced halos from these “sinners”.

    Juan was a good choice.

  5. “When I get to the Senate, I will sign onto Senator Feinstein’s bill to re-instate a ban on assault weapons and other commonsense gun control measures. We have a responsibility to ourselves and to our children to take the steps we can to stop the violence.” Elizabeth Warren

  6. Redundant, perhaps.

    http://www.juancole.com/2012/12/questions-i-ask-myself-about-connecticut-school-shooting.html
    Questions I ask myself about Connecticut School Shooting

    Posted on 12/14/2012 by Juan Cole

    I ask myself, “Why?”

    Why do US cable news networks intensively cover these mass shootings, making it the only story for a day or two and prying into every detail of them, when they aren’t interested in preventing them from happening again through banning semi-automatic weapons? Is it just, like, a natural disaster to them?

    Why don’t the news anchors or discussants ever bring up the simple fact that between 1994 and 2004, the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994: The Federal Assault Weapons Ban prohibited assault weapons? The prohibition was not unconstitutional. Congress foolishly put in a 10-year sunset provision, and of course Bush and his Republican Congress allowed it to expire.

    Why doesn’t anyone blame George W. Bush for these mass shootings? He’s the one who led the charge to let the assault weapons ban expire. Why aren’t the politicians in Congress who take campaign money from assault weapons manufacturers ever held accountable by the public?

    Why don’t the news programs bring up the reported moves of Sen. Diane Feinstein to prepare new legislation banning assault weapons and their accoutrements? Are they so afraid of the NRA that they can’t even discuss the legislative process in public?

    What in the world does the 2nd amendment have to do with these incidents? Do they look like a “well-regulated militia” to you? Semi-automatic weapons are the 18th-century equivalent of artillery in terms of their ability to kill. Do you think people should be allowed to have artillery pieces in their back yards, too? Is this some sort of sick joke, that you are telling us our children have to die because the Founding Fathers wanted madmen to have high-powered weaponry?

    Why does complaining about semi-automatic weapons (and the means to make them fully automatic by attaching e.g. ammunition drums) being freely available always devolve into an argument about gun control and hunting? No one minds if people buy rifles to shoot deer with in the countryside. An ordinary, non-automatic rifle can’t produce a mass killing like that in Connecticut because it cannot get off so many rounds so quickly. Nobody hunts with an automatic pistol, and if they do, they should be publicly shamed by, like a group of hot girls calling them wusses as they set off in their hunting jackets.

    Why aren’t there more class-action lawsuits against the people responsible for the proliferation of high-powered weaponry in our society? Lax gun laws and inadequate security checks in Mississippi, West Virginia and Kentucky and 7 other states meant that they supplied nearly half the 43,000 guns traced to crime scenes in other states in one recent year. The guns aren’t randomly acquired, and they aren’t used or Saturday night specials. They come disproportionately from specific states.

    Likewise, a relatively small number of corporations produce and market semi-automatic weapons for the civilian market. Why aren’t they named and shamed?

    Why doesn’t anyone on these news channels ever mention that firearms are used in 300,000 crimes a year in the US?

    Why doesn’t anyone on television news ever simply give this statistic: In one recent year, there were 39 murders by gun in the UK, but 9,000 in the United States? Why is it wrong to let Americans know how peculiar is the situation Americans have to live in?

    (Swarthmore mom, I agree…)

  7. Biden was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee when the 1994 assault weapons ban was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

  8. Ap, What Juan Cole says is true but we must not be deterred from taking legislative action on guns. The two are related morally but not legislatively.

  9. “Tariq Aziz, 16-year-old casualty of a US drone attack in Waziristan
    Newtown kids v. Yemenis and Pakistanis: what explains the disparate reactions?”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/19/newtown-drones-children-deaths

    “Meanwhile, University of Michigan professor Juan Cole, at the peak of mourning over Newtown, simply urged: “Let’s also Remember the 178 children Killed by US Drones”. He detailed the various ways that children and other innocents have had their lives extinguished by President Obama’s policies, and then posted this powerful (and warning: graphic) one-and-a-half-minute video from a new documentary on drones by filmmaker Robert Greenwald (no relation)”:

    http://youtu.be/zf8bnYF-WxE

  10. Bron,

    What is your stand? With or against Buckeye?

    I was expecting this to be brought up about the Israel situation..
    It is a special case in a special land with compulsory military training for both men and women. These parents are fully trained and even sometimes veterans of combat.

    To suggest that we follow suit is the height of deceit. But it would sell ammo.

    I would prefer the world of my childhood in the 1940s, when all children were the children of all. And children who become adults and then massacre others are victims of our society’s failings. Those two items are worth our efforts, although it will take a long time.

    Parents do not even have time for their own children today. Tough choice.
    A new violence game or going somewhere and doing something together—-and I don’t mean shopping. Is shopping really America’s chief leisure time activity—behind Cable TV, of course?

    Thanks for the loan of your springboard. Nothing personal at all. I mean it.
    Your words got me started, that is why we are here—–one of the whys.

  11. Jonathan:

    “religions are anti Christ”

    **************************

    That’s the smartest thing you’ve said. Bravo, but it’s not original:

    “”The Christian religion, when divested of the rags in which they [the clergy] have enveloped it, and brought to the original purity and simplicity of it’s benevolent institutor, is a religion of all others most friendly to liberty, science, and the freest expansion of the human mind.”

    ~Thomas Jefferson to Moses Robinson (1801)

  12. story from Buckeye Firearms Association:

    “On May 15, 1974, three Palestinian terrorists killed 25 people including 22 Israeli children in Ma’alot. They had taken 115 people hostage in Netiv Meir Elementary School. Even though Israel is a smaller, more-close knit country, we are today, where they were then. They had the same resolve to take meaningful action as President Obama, and they carried through with it.
    They decided that it made no sense to have armed people to protect money, but no one to protect their children. They realized the only reliable way to stop an evil person with a gun, was to have a good person with a gun on scene and ready to take action to stop the killing quickly. Such protection does not come cheaply, and like it or not, money is a factor in everything, including our children’s safety.
    Today all Israeli children are protected by at least one armed person. In every school, on every school bus, at school functions and field trips. Parents and teachers are trained and armed. They volunteer to protect their children because they love them. They made a conscious decision that killing them would never again be made so easy. Last week, a total of zero children died in school shootings in Israel. I believe our parents love our children every bit as much as Israeli parents, and we could copy their success.
    We have hundreds of multiple victim killings to study. They are premeditated events. We know that, like the terrible events on Friday, these attacks almost always occur in politically correct, so called “gun free zones.” How sadly ironic. Best of all, we know how to stop the attacks when they start. We must offer resistance to stop the killer. The faster we do this, the fewer people die.”

  13. malisha:

    “Yesterday I had a really brilliant thought but then I forgot it.”

    **********************

    No probs. I’m sure I caught it with the cosmic mind-meld.

  14. Mespo, re “a vulcan mind-meld with your deity,” that’s where we came from, according to Julian Jaynes. See “The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.”

    There’s nothing wrong with melding, by the way. It should be done in private and not with anyone under the age of consent.

    Yesterday I had a really brilliant thought but then I forgot it.

    1. No one should give a law of what is said to be consent. That is an arbitrary law. The law of people is like that. That mentality will also pervert scripture too making people make more, and more translations saying Hmm no that’s not right try this, and on, and on that goes like gossip having the word stray farther, and farther away from what God interned the word to mean. People also forget how Jesus is who is the word made flesh. Gods law is so simple it confuses the human mind. Judge yourself. That means it does not matter what age is with you. What matter is who is in you, .Jesus or the devil. It is an individual choice. Eternal life doing what Jesus would to which is good or not=- eternal death.

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