MSNBC Political Analyst and Georgetown Professor Calls Holder “The Moses Of Our Time”

holdereric170px-rembrandt_harmensz-_van_rijn_079-1In the last couple weeks, it has been astonishing to watch Democrats once again abandoning a core principle — in this case the protection of the free press — to excuse another abuse of the Obama Administration. The new talking point for defenders of the Obama Administration is that it is really not that bad to seize the records of journalists or label a journalist a potential criminal co-conspirator so long as they are not actually prosecuted. None however are quite so adamant as Georgetown Professor and MSNBC Political Analyst Michael Eric Dyson who called Eric Holder our “law giver” and “the Moses of our time.” In this case, of course, Moses came down from the mountain and endorsed the killing of any citizen deemed a national security threat, allowed warrantless surveillance, blocked public interest challenges to abuses of power, and attacked the free press. While some of us believe Holder should be fired, Dyson apparently believes Holder should be be beatified.

Here is Dyson holding forth on the miracle that is Holder:

mqdefault MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: I think the attorney general should step down too – off of that plateau where he resides in high principle and whip some head. But he shouldn’t give up his office. What he should understand is he’s the chief law giver of the United States of America so to speak. He’s the Moses of our time, and at least for this administration.

So, yes, some people want to put him outside of the ark of the legal community. That’s just ridiculous. He is the bully, he is in one sense the whipping boy for so much of the frustration of the right-wing. As Joy Reid has brilliantly indicated, their inability to reconcile themselves to the fact they lost the election means that they will be perennially pursuing a person like an Eric Holder. In sense, they perceive him to be the most vulnerable. They attack him. But I think what he has to do is continue to hold fast. I think the president has given strong indication that he will support Mr. Holder, and, therefore, together they should go forward.

And here’s the real problem. The real problem is it’s not against the law to leak classified information. That’s what we need to get into our sights here. That what we need to do is shore up the law. Not figure out how to scandalize the name of Eric Holder or President Obama. Let’s deal with the undergirding legal principles that are not present, and as a result of that figure out a way to get beyond this morass. Otherwise we’re going to repeat this in the next administration and the administration after that as well.

Dyson captures particularly the cult of personality surrounding this president. Not even the protection of the free press is enough to break faith with this president. By the way, last time I check, leaking classified information was a crime so we can move beyond the view that “The real problem is it’s not against the law to leak classified information.” Moreover, in our tripartite system, Holder is not a law giver of any kind. He is supposed to be enforcing the laws given by others — specifically the legislative branch — and of course protecting the Constitution.

As I mentioned in my surprising disagreement with CNN’s Jeff Tobin last night on the Situation Room, no one denies that such leaks can be crimes. It is how they are investigated. There was no excuse for this fishing expedition into the records of journalists. Also, Bashir joins Dyson in mocking the concerns of journalists that the Administration searched these records since the targets were not prosecuted. He laughed with Dyson at the fact that Rosen was described as a potential criminal co-conspirator. It is perfectly other worldly. The free press rests on guarantees of confidentiality. The administration attacked that guarantee and in so doing created a chilling effect on the work of all reporters.

As for Moses, I shudder to think who Dyson considers to be the Messiah that Holder is foretelling . . . but I can guess.

107 thoughts on “MSNBC Political Analyst and Georgetown Professor Calls Holder “The Moses Of Our Time””

  1. FMTP – What Anwar al-Awlaki did to Americans is that he somehow got Capt. Nidal Hassan to shoot 150 men at Fort Hood Texas. Hassan is in a wheel chair from being shot by LEO. But Awlaki (an American citizen) is dead via a Presidential Executive Order. I feel no sympathy for someone who helps kill American citizen-soldiers and planned to do even more in the future. People are still trying to figure out how he did it but if you watch the movie Syrainna (which ‘somewhat’ portrays the real life CIA Officer Bobby Baer) you can see one technique that is used to “brainwash” terrorists into doing stuff against their own people.

    I do feel sympathy for Anwar al-Awlaki’s son. He did not deserve what happened to him. He walked into ANOTHER drone strike in progress while looking for his dad Anwar al-Awlaki. He did not know he was killed 2 weeks prior by a CIA drone strike – which you and Jeremy think he escaped. He was headed to what he thought was a BBQ in the desert. John really needs to RETHINK this program and let DARPA (or the Israelis) give him some BETTER methods which will hold down C.D. to near-zero hopefully.

  2. Gene H. – where you and I differ is that I say ‘don’t burn down the house to kill some water-bugs’ but you sound like you would. I’m just saying that Eric knows that if he took out the “big-guys” it would negatively impact our economy on a grand scale. The big-guys KNOW this too. Yes it’s kinda’ like an unofficial get-out-of-jail-free-card but it’s one of those stark realities we are faced with today… in the “big-city” (an old American expression).

    Eric will (and probably is) trying to come up with some really creative moves to address banking fraud investigations/prosecutions without tipping his hand to these huge corporate cretins who literally control our society (i.e. recent mortgage fraud scenarios?). Maybe as you say some “leverage” type stuff may be deployed? I dunno’ I’m only guessing here.

    Yes I agree with you I am a guberment’ apologist (and God too I guess huh? 🙂 ) But as FTMP is trying to imply I am not a paid one. I am a voluntary one due to my circle of work and friends (aka associates).

    FTMP – The system you are alluding too is ALREADY operational by the Pentagon. I think it was written up in WIRED magazine or something. It’s pretty impressive how it works but it is known to go into forums, threads, blogs, etc. and do “it’s thing”. I’m still a little blurry on what that “thing” actually is. It’s something to do with psyops I think.

    I think Jeremy Scahill is a little misinformed by his “off the rez” CIA informants. Not only does he get his timelines a little confused as to when Alwaki (?) buys the farm and his son’s unfortunate killing, he gets his avionics a bit confused. I think he is getting Harriers and Predator avionics (and the other one that actually carries the missiles) confused. Why he thinks Alwaki(?) escaped the drone strike 2 weeks before his son’s death is baffling. The son WAS NOT targeted. He was “collateral damage” (aka innocent bystander) as they say.

    And as much as I say nice things about John Brennan (as we are same age and hale from same area), I do not condone nor subscribe to his “death from above” drone scenario he invented while working as CIA Saudi-Arabia during OEF. John was in bed with the Saudis just like his old boss Bush. And all of his cronies like Jose and those two chicks that almost made 7th floor directors recently, are all quasi-sociopaths IMHO. They are all warmongers (as I’ve been accused of in JT Forum).

    Yes I’m into Obama’s executive remote-US citizen – capital punishment model. As others here believe I do not think it’s unconstitutional. I would imagine that some POTUSes in the past have exercised some variations on the theme. I know for a FACT that LBJ did on SEVERAL occasions. Some CIA officers STILL believe JFK did too – even though others have shown that others may have betrayed them – jury is still out though.

    BTW CIA officers DO carry photo-id cards. No not badges or guns. They bring them with them in the form of matrixed FBI agents or local police (i.e. NYPD). When they come with “contractors” (i.e. Academi) is the part that’s not too cool.

  3. “Eric is correct some entities ARE just too darned big to take on.”

    Yeah. I’m going to call bullshit apologetics on that.

    That kind of elitist nonsensical gibberish “thinking” is what is screwing up this country. If the President does it and it’s illegal? It’s still %$*&)$(&*) illegal. If an exce at Citibank does it and it’s illegal? Guess what?

    The law applies equally to everyone or it applies to no one.

    It’s that kind of arrogance precisely that starts rebellions and revolutions.

    Doubt this?

    Ask the Louis XVI how that whole “let them eat cake” attitude worked out for them.

  4. As far as Nidal Hassan is concerned, there’s more to the Fort Hood incident than meets the eye. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/19/tara-osborn_n_3782380.html [“Col. Tara Osborn, Fort Hood Shooting Judge, Bars Most Motive Evidence”])

    “And justice was done. This is the “big city” now, all gloves are off.” -sonofabloviator, again, sounding a bit like Jose Rodriguez

    Oh, my. Someone is full of himself.

  5. “And in summary: What is this stuff about wanton killing of American citizens by Predator Drones? Do some research please… the 2-guys that we know about where terrorists that were responsible for doing very bad things to Americans (i.e. Nidal Incident at Ft Hood TX). His son’s death was an accident and not “targeted” as most of you think. There was NO WAY to give them due-process here in America for obvious reasons. They were judged in absentia I think. And justice was done. This is the “big city” now, all gloves are off, tell me if you have a better ways for dealing with very bad guys like Anwar al-Awlaki.” -sonofathunderingbloviator

    Cass Sunstein and his acolytes come to mind. (http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/ )

    With regard to Abdulrahman’s targeted killing? The sons of the father were visited upon the son — it was not an accident, as John Brennan “suspected.”
    The review should be made public.

    (https://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/04/25-9

    “However, John Brennan, at the time President Obama’s senior adviser on counterterrorism and homeland security, “suspected that the kid had been killed intentionally and ordered a review. I don’t know what happened with the review.”” (Jeremy Scahill) )

  6. “And in summary: What is this stuff about wanton killing of American citizens by Predator Drones? Do some research please… the 2-guys that we know about where terrorists that were responsible for doing very bad things to Americans (i.e. Nidal Incident at Ft Hood TX). His son’s death was an accident and not “targeted” as most of you think. There was NO WAY to give them due-process here in America for obvious reasons. They were judged in absentia I think. And justice was done. This is the “big city” now, all gloves are off, tell me if you have a better ways for dealing with very bad guys like Anwar al-Awlaki.” -sonofathunderingbloviator

    Cass Sunstein and his acolytes come to mind. (http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/ )

    With regard to Abdulrahman’s targeted killing? The sons of the father were visited upon the son — it was not an accident, as John Brennan “suspected.”
    The review should be made public.

    (https://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/04/25-9

    “However, John Brennan, at the time President Obama’s senior adviser on counterterrorism and homeland security, “suspected that the kid had been killed intentionally and ordered a review. I don’t know what happened with the review.”” (Jeremy Scahill) )

    As far as Nidal Hassan is concerned, there’s more to the Fort Hood incident than meets the eye. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/19/tara-osborn_n_3782380.html [“Col. Tara Osborn, Fort Hood Shooting Judge, Bars Most Motive Evidence”])

    “And justice was done. This is the “big city” now, all gloves are off.” -sonofabloviator, again, sounding a bit like Jose Rodriguez

    Oh, my. Someone is full of himself.

  7. Otteray Scribe – We, the American public, are to blame for allowing giants like Goldman Sachs (et al) to become so entwined and integral to our financial well-being. We basically never learned the big lesson we got in 1929. Arguably the basic “business model” for these modern-day Nephelim is “corporate fraud”. Why do you think Louis Freeh (ex FBI Director) was trying to get legislation to have FBI back-doors installed into EVERY US corporate Intranet?

    Of course he got shot down as he was aiming too high. If Eric was to go after these Leviathans it would be tantamount to burning down your house to kill some water-bugs. They are connected at the hip with the infamous Wall Street cabal (you know the guys who tried a White House coup d’état in 1933?). They lawyer-up with heavy weights. They call in every political favor they have ever banked with their GOP friends in Congress. Then they call in the corrupt “shadows” from within the America IC community to run interference by illegal intel-gathering and other subversive acts against the attacking party – in this case the DoJ itself.

    Eric is correct some entities ARE just too darned big to take on. Like a lake trout trying to swallow a blue whale. Just can’t be done. It’s the big city as they say. DoJ has to get creative to keep them all in check IMO.

    SOTB

  8. OK I personally don’t think Dyson’s misnomer for Moses was supported in Moses’ writings about himself. He was not a “law-giver” (per se) as the actual “giving” of the 600+ commandments (or ‘words’) was from YHWH (i.e. God Almighty). It would be more accurate to say he was simply a law-MESSENGER and enforcer. Like Mr. Holder he is only delivering the message and then enforcing it. Moses enforced most of the laws like he did at the Golden Calf incident. The other laws were NEVER actually enforced as they were actually meant as a social-moral deterrents for the arrogant/head-strong Hebrews. IOW no one was ever killed for working on the Sabbath. It was just meant to scare anyone from trying. Evidently it worked. And of course God allowed Moses to embellish (within reason) some of them a bit too. IMO that is.

    So instead of dealing in generalities, which detracts from the facts of the case, what specifically has Eric Holder done to cause most of you to throw in your vote of no-confidence? Let’s see: A young African-American CIA case officer “goes off the reservation” and allows a reporter to have classified information about an operation which may or may not be terminated yet (i.e. the story about the Russian scientist sent into Iran). The reporter writes a book about it, Eric “the messenger” let’s it be known that this is wrong… then he uses his office to “enforce” it through classified wire-taps which he arguably got legally from a federal magistrate.

    Also there was the AP debacle. Why were their phones being tapped? Could it be that there are a bunch of CIA guys/gals running around off-the-rez? Shouldn’t we try and discover who they all are? Wasn’t the AP debacle a jeopardy to our (i.e. USA) top-secret assets in Yemen? Of course the CIA-IG could have done all of this on the down/low but the public would never know any of it. Thus way it gets publicized so the guilty parties can run scared now. Hopefully they’ll flush themselves out.

    The NSA debacles really has nothing to do with Mr. Holder as that’s “above his pay grade” (as they say). So don’t even posit that Eric had anything to do with that. Yes blame Mr. Obama because he used Bush’s spy-system to help him flush out his own rotten-apples (and of course as Truman said The Buck Stops Here).

    Everyone thinks that Eric, Barrack, Keith, and John are all big salacious snoops who spy on EVERYBODY for the joy of it all (or for political leverage like both Bushes used it for). What if there was a basically UNKNOWN (to you) enemy out there that did not fit the profile of the “usual suspects”? What if he was out there just waiting for his moment to ponce on the American public. Wouldn’t you want these guys to flush him out now rather than later when it was too late?

    And in summary: What is this stuff about wanton killing of American citizens by Predator Drones? Do some research please… the 2-guys that we know about where terrorists that were responsible for doing very bad things to Americans (i.e. Nidal Incident at Ft Hood TX). His son’s death was an accident and not “targeted” as most of you think. There was NO WAY to give them due-process here in America for obvious reasons. They were judged in absentia I think. And justice was done. This is the “big city” now, all gloves are off, tell me if you have a better ways for dealing with very bad guys like Anwar al-Awlaki.

    SOTB

  9. This is beginning to look like a mutual masturbation society (kinda like the Academy Awards), except this is mental masturbation, rather than rational thought. It’s too bad that people allow their emotions to overload their rhetoric with flamboyant words of praise that have no basis in fact. To pay someone a compliment based upon specific facts that justify that compliment is one thing, but to simply heap praise upon someone is nothing more than being a sycophant. Wasn’t Georgetown the place that Viet Din drafted the Patriot Act? It seems to be full of so-called Constitutional professors that believe “Due Process” means summary executions. Either that or they are simply trying to abolish the Bill of Rights altogether. This type of saliva dripping verbal fellatio is sickening!

  10. OS,

    I think Eline has been on that bandwagon for a while…. Thanks…..

  11. This article has just been brought to my attention:

    Holder Laid the Groundwork for “Too Big to Jail” In 1999
    Everyone knows that Eric Holder – the head of the Department of Not-Much Justice – has said that the big banks are too big to jail.

    And many people know that – prior to becoming the Attorney General – Holder was a partner at a big firm which did some despicable things to represent the big banks and MERS.

    But Holder’s see-no-evil act actually started more than a decade ago.

    Specifically, in 1999, as Deputy Attorney General, Holder wrote a memo arguing against prosecuting large financial service companies:

    Read rest of story here:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-06-03/holder-laid-groundwork-%E2%80%9Ctoo-big-jail%E2%80%9D-1999

  12. “Friends said Mr. Holder did not look forward to leaving the government because he did not particularly enjoy private practice. Mr. Holder grew up in the Justice Department and has said wistfully that he recognizes that this will be his final position there. As the first black attorney general, he also cares deeply about civil rights law and, according to the friends, wants to stay on the job long enough to participate in this month’s 50th anniversary commemoration of the integration of the University of Alabama by two black students, one of them his sister-in-law, who died in 2005.” NYT

  13. Does anybody on this blog thread remember President Obama signing (with his magic autopen) the PATRIOT Sunsets Extension Act of 2011? Key provisions of the original PATRIOT Act (roving wiretaps) therefore are still in place until 2015. In addition, this president’s war powers, transferred to him at his inauguration from Congressional Act in 2011, continue this authority to subvert America’s Constitution.

  14. Mr. Blauw,

    Always a pleasure to come across your writings.

    Concerning the belief that “money owns and controls…” everything, to put it succinctly, does not address the root of the problem.

    In my view, money controls everything only after those in charge have capitulated and absconded their duties. Because money is the only thing that’s left behind.

    Whether people see that clearly now, or in due time after the 20/20 hindsight affect has run its course, or even understood only by those that prefer the truth at any price, remains to be seen.

  15. The clown car posse entertainment show that was known as the 2012 republican primary, failed to elect a republican president…or did it?
    A republican President would have given unity to the Dems, they could have stood in harmony (sort of) against hard core succor the rich policy, that Romney no doubt would have eagerly touted.
    WHOOPS the Democratic incumbent won a second term. Whoops he is one of “ours” Whoops we MUST support him.
    Karl Rove in his most fevered of dreams could not have pulled off such a genius coup. Romney loss,..The Republicans and the 1%ers WON.

  16. Michael Murry…. “President Obama and Attorney General Holder have not just slavishly genuflected to intimidation by the rabid right at home, but they have aggressively moved to co-opt these authoritarian policies and and make them their own ”

    WOW ! I at first (2009) and for too long after, thought Obama was being politically astute and confusing to the Repubs, by embracing many of their policies, he denuded many of their attacks against him.
    No gun control policy at all, increase the troops in Afghanistan, continued spending of Mega bucks for the MIC….etc.
    I was full of optimism and hope that Obamas words were not straw.
    The dodge of Republican obstructionism (while true) is really a convenient distraction that allows this DINO to succor the WealthUberLords.
    Excusing the atrocities of Bush & Cheney should have been my first clue. The Wall st Banksters in his cabinet should have been my second clue. Holder denying and ignoring the biggest banking fraud conspiracy ever concretizes my opinion. ….Money owns and controls all three branches of our government “of We the Sheeples” and as Amy Goodman was earlier quoted, I sum up as The press should be the fourth estate, NOT for the state. Big money owns the press too.

  17. From “Hope” and “Change” to despair and the status quo. And with a Nobel Peace Prize for Endless War, too.

    To me, Eric Holder and President Obama both seem afflicted with the unmistakable symptoms of:

    Congenital Stockholm Syndrome

    He started by giving up quickly,
    Surrendering early his case.
    He offered to kiss their asses.
    Replying, they pissed in his face.

    Their urine, he thought, tasted strangely;
    Yet not at all bad to his taste.
    He’d gotten so used to it, plainly.
    Why let such a drink go to waste?

    The people who voted in favor
    Of him and his promise of “change”
    Now see in his many betrayals
    A poodle afflicted with mange.

    Each time that the surly and crazy
    Republicans out for his skin
    Condemn him for living and breathing,
    He graciously helps them to win.

    He’ll turn on his base in an instant
    With threats and disdain and neglect
    While bombing some Muslims so Cheney
    Might thrill to the lives that he’s wrecked.

    A black man in love with apartheid
    He offers his stalwart support
    To Zionists and their extortion
    With “More, please!” his only retort.

    A masochist begging for beatings
    Obama takes joy in abuse
    Receiving just what he has asked for
    Which makes him of no earthly use

    The little brown men that he’s murdered
    In homes far away from our land
    Bring profits obscene to his backers
    Who give him the back of their hand.

    Obama seeks praise from the vicious
    Republicans, no matter what.
    He suffers, apparently, nothing
    So much as his need to kiss butt.

    Michael Murry, “The Misfortune Teller,” Copyright 2011

  18. “The American government reacted not to the Chinese upheaval or to Vietnamese nationalism per se, but to intimidation by the rabid right at home and to the public dread of Communism that this played on and reflected. [In the] social and psychological sources of this dread … lie the roots of American policy in Vietnam.” – Barbara Tuchman, The March of Folly: from Troy to Vietnam(1984)

    The American government reacts to intimidation by the rabid right at home. Period.

    “Rather than combating the irrationality of charges of softness on Communism and subversion, the Truman Administration, sure that it was the lesser of two evils, moved to expropriate the issue, as in a more subtle way it was already doing in foreign affairs. So the issue was legitimized; rather than being the property of the far right, which the centrist Republicans tolerated for obvious political benefits, it had even been picked up by the incumbent Democratic party.” — David Halberstam, The Best and the Brightest (1969)

    President Obama and Attorney General Holder have not just slavishly genuflected to intimidation by the rabid right at home, but they have aggressively moved to co-opt these authoritarian policies and and make them their own — as have Democratic party administrations from Truman to the present. Now another “Democratic” party administration (stuffed with as many corporate Republicans as possible) finds itself in the ludicrous position of having legitimized the reactionary right-wing policies of their many Republican predecessors while allowing right-wing Republicans to opportunistically pose as “libertarians” offended by the very right-wing policies that they cherish and support.

    Yes, Eric Holder should go — for not having the slightest idea whom the Democratic party should represent and what the Democratic party ought to fight for. But then, President Obama would only appoint another corporate Republican to take his place. Lucy Boehner had better tee up that football again. Charlie Brown Obama looks about ready to take another kick at it.

  19. ” … it has been astonishing to watch Democrats once again abandoning a core principle — in this case the protection of the free press — to excuse another abuse of the Obama Administration.”

    Oh, yes. Not just astonishing, but shocking. How dare those corporate Democrats act like corporate Republicans and expect the Republicans to welcome and praise them as fellow-traveling fascists!

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