In the cult of personality surrounding President Barack Obama, the ultimate test of loyalty is to shoot a cherish value. No one has proven herself more blindly loyal than House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi who previously led the fight to kill privacy in America as a demonstration of absolute fealty. Now, Pelosi appears to be advocating military action. In a meeting with the White House. Pelosi voiced the need for action. Presumably, this means military action — again — because Obama said that the use of chemical weapons would be a redline and of course Obama is not to be mocked. It is a test that England appears to have failed and now there is a concern that the White House views England with suspicion and distrust for balking at war.
Pelosi paid only passing acknowledgement of liberals who oppose war, but suggested that we should attack even if we do so against the wishes of our allies and go in alone. She insisted “it is clear that the American people are weary of war. However, Assad gassing his own people is an issue of our national security, regional stability and global security.” Of course, our sprawling military industrial complex is not weary. We are about to fire off a billion or so dollars worth of missiles that will have to be replaced and could trigger a broader war.
Pelosi is quoted as countering statements from House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) suggesting a more cautious approach with consultation. Pelosi reportedly countered that the United States needed “to do something.”
So now that Pelosi has led the attack on privacy, called for another war, supported warrantless surveillance, and the killing of citizens on the sole authority of the president, it is difficult to see what is left for the democratic party beyond of course Barack Obama.
Arthur Randolph Erb,
As President Eisenhower would caution you: “Don’t just do something. Stand there.”
No nation has killed more innocent people than the United States has over the past fifty years. And none of those millions of deaths had any bearing whatsoever on the “security” or “moral virtue” of the United States. The world today could not possibly have a lower estimate of America’s self-proclaimed “morality.” So please give us all a break from your pious proclamations of puerile pugilistic perfection. Destroying villages to save them sounds so Vietnam.
Now, if you want to head on over to Syria and straighten out that centuries-long intra-Islamic, post-colonial bloodletting all by your lonesome, then go right ahead. My own government once forced me to participate in one of these Children’s Crusades against “evil over the horizon somewhere” and I refuse to ever again heed the blathering, salivating calls for more of the same.
You can’t always make a bad situation better, but the U.S. military can always make it worse.
Springtime for Hitler in Germany. Autumn for Poland and France.
Nancy Pelosi is old and no longer coherent. Retire now like your father should have Nancy.
Topple Assad and what do we get? Ted Kopple? Al Qaeda can not wait for us to bomb Assad. Whose side are we on? Hit Assad with missiles? Where? How many collateral casualties of women and children? Obama is as warped as Bush I and Bush II. Of course Iraq and Afghanistan are so much better off today.
President Obama rather naively put himself in a box when he made the improvident statement about chemical weapon utilization by Syria crossing a red line. He staked the credibility of the US on his willingness to do something if the Syrians deployed chemical weapons. Over the last few days the Republicans have been pillorying him over his tardiness/reluctance to attack Syria. All indications are that the President will act. In doing so the US has effectively picked a side in a civil war. Something which we have no business doing and will invariably cause this nation much grief later.
Obama will bomb, somehow over time Syria will retaliate (think terrorism). We will have made enemies with a fair percentage of the Syrian people. But, the Syrian people will still be involved in a civil war.
Wednesday, Obama gave an interview to PBS where when questioned about the Syrian debacle, he expressed the view that this would be a brief action and that he hoped that it would be viewed by Assad as a “shot across the bow” and that maybe then Assad won’t use chemical weapons anymore. The preposterousness of this notion is obvious. And when Assad does use chemical weapons again or worse, orchestrates a retaliatory attack on the US for this nations aggression in contravention to International law, then what? There is only one thing left to do when that happens. Escalate our involvement in the conflict.
It is embarrassing that the Democrat’s are rolling right along with this plan. It is deliciously ironic that many of the Republican congressmen and women that were pushing for Obama to salvage American pride by doing something for Syria’s crossing of the line are now preaching restraint and calling for submission to a congressional vote prior to any military action in Syria.
If Obama were wise, he’d give them their vote. He’d ask permission and watch as Republicans squirm before they vote to intervene. The Democrats would be squirming as they voted to authorize force out of loyalty to the party and the President. They’d both be wrong, but they could maintain that they saved face and preserved the US’s credibility and proved that our nation’s declarations mean something.
As George C Scott said in that scintillating speech in the beginning of the movie Patton, Americans love war, or was it, Americans love to fight?
One things for sure, as was observed by many others, the corporations that are making the munitions are positively giddy with their good fortune.
Maryland has a gas chamber and so does Wyoming. Send in the missiles.
A congressman from NYC, Democrat, first name Eliot, just got off of PBS and declared that Assad has committed crimes against humanity by gassing his own people. If a state can not gas it’s own citizens then Obama, Pelosi, and our government should send drones to bomb the gas chamber at the Missouri State Penitentiary in Jefferson City, Missoura. You can’t gas your own people!
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi worshipped at the shrine of Dubya and Dick long before Barack Obama moved in to receive her obsequious genuflecting to corporate power. Hence:
Nancy the Negotiator
Nancy the Negotiator
Gives up first; surrenders later;
Takes her cards from off the table,
Then recites her loser fable:
“We don’t have the votes we need,”
Nancy says, in tones that bleed:
“Mean Republicans will whine
If we do not toe their line.”
Nancy bows to George and Dick
While her skinny ass they kick;
Writes them checks both blank and rubber,
Then proceeds to lamely blubber:
“We don’t like what Dubya’s doing.
Still, we quite enjoy the screwing.
Masochism’s what we offer,
Helping crooks to loot the coffer”
“Sure, the squandered blood and treasure
Goes to those we will not measure.
Still, we promise you’ll adore us
If you mark your ballot for us.”
“Choices you don’t have assail you,
Leaving only us who fail you.
Nonetheless, we’ve gotten fatter.
Why, then, should we think you matter?”
Michael Murry, “The Misfortune Teller,” Copyright © 2007
The arrogance of elected officials in safe districts knows no bounds. This person was the first female Speaker of the House. The only way to go is up.
Dear Arthur, Thank you for your warmongering twaddle. Unintentional humor is the best kind.
My question is how many people can Assad gas to death before there is an outcry to stop it? Or is the Assad regime allowed to kill an unlimited number of people as we stand by? If it is an unlimited number, then will the US act if he uses gas against his neighbors such as Turkey or Jordan? Will that be sufficient causus belli? There are already attacks going on against those countries because they are allowing refugees to stay in their border areas? it is rather tough to control gases and it would seem reasonable that if Assad has carte blanche to use poison gas, he can be forgiven if a little drifts across the border then. If you are against any military action in response to this attack by Assad, then you had damn well be ready to answer these questions because they will have to be answered one way or another and SOONER rather than later.
I don’t think it is remiss to point out that pacifism and an absolute horror of war brought about war in WWII. Hitler used the timidity of England and France to his advantage in his destroying the League of Nations, and the peace. One can also be reminded of how the near failure of Congress to renew the draft in 1941 provided the impetus for the Japanese to attack the US at Pearl Harbor. The Japanese leaders cited that vote as a deciding factor in their decision to go to war against the US. They figured that the US was so timid and pacifist that they would seek a negotiated peace at the first opportunity after the initial disasterous engagements. Instead of peace, the isolationists guaranteed war when they voted to kill the draft. Those who are against war or military action often are the ones who cause the very thing that they are against and at a FAR greater cost than otherwise would have been the case had they used common sense.
Dropping pols like bombs is a form of chemical warfare.
“it is clear that the American people are weary of war. However, Assad gassing his own people is an issue of our national security, regional stability and global security.”
BS to the ultimate. Only a liar or a fool would assert that there is a U.S. national security interest in this civil war. Nancy may be both.
Speaking of Pelosi, I wish I had said this:
We have to bomb Syria to find out what’s in it!
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Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
DEB – They can take their Messiah with them…
What this Liberal would really like to see…………….. is you, Mrs. Pelosi, and the rest of Congress, to be dropped out of the belly of a Bomber, over the Pacific Ocean……….
I cannot believe the hypocrisy of Obama or Pelosi. Both claim to honor the legacy and work of Martin Luther King Jr. Yet neither will ever consider the strength, the honor, the courage and the commitment to a better world that following nonviolence demands. Peaceful solutions are not “doing nothing”. They are the best solutions in facing injustice.
That both these “leaders” utterly reject one of the most noble actions possible speaks volumes about who they both are.
I used to admire Nancy Pelosi. throwing away one’s principles & scruples seems to be the rule of the day in both parties just to further ambition and more power. wherever does it end?
Don’t forget in that litany of charges that she also gave traitors and domestic war criminals a pass by saying “Impeachment is off the table.”
Words do not adequately express how much I loathe this aider and abettor after the fact.
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When all else fails… Bring out the Hooples!