Do Monkeys Reject Unequal Pay?

By Darren Smith, Weekend Contributor

capuchin-monkey-in-leavesA vital question of social equality was tested recently before the scientific community. Do monkeys accept the social justice issue of equal pay?

We have uncovered an experiment that shows quite conclusively the answer to this question.

Video below the fold…

By Darren Smith

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219 thoughts on “Do Monkeys Reject Unequal Pay?”

  1. rickard engström dalsjöfors

    Hi there! I just wanted to ask if you ever have any issues with hackers?
    My last blog (wordpress) was hacked and I ended up losing a few months of hard work due to no data backup.
    Do you have any solutions to protect against hackers?
    ==================
    Depends on the content of your blog.

    Support Ed Snowden or the military NSA, depending on your content.

  2. Mr Keebler,

    Some of these trolls are like the guy in Waterworld … the old man deep down in the oil storage tank on the Exxon Valdez … the club-house of “the Smokers.”

    He had been there breathing that crap forever.

    When the mutant (Kevin Costner) dropped the “enlightenment stick” (flare) down into the hold, he was happy for the first time in a long time cause he knew “freedom” was just a boom boom away.

  3. Dredd – symbolic racism does not exist, the science behind it is as phony as the data that Michael Mann is hiding. Social sciences are neither social or a science.

  4. Keebler – I have no idea who the ‘originals’ are/were. I have only been on here about 2 months. I understand that two former GBers are no longer with us but they were gone before I got on here. Since I have been on here a few people have been banned but it has not been permanent. In the last few cases I was gone from the site when people were banned and clearly had no part in it.

  5. Paul Schulte

    Dredd – the Stockholm Syndrome would indicate that I was a victim and identified with my captors.

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    Self reporting, self analysis, and self medicating is suspect:

    For decades, researchers have expressed concern that self-report racial attitude measures are vulnerable to distortion from pressures respondents feel to present themselves as unprejudiced.

    (Symbolic Racism: A Look At The Science – 3, @1,). Let someone else determine if “the Stockholm Syndrome would indicate that I was a victim” … then get a second opinion.

  6. You know what I find most amusing, is this that are incapable if comprehension of the issues attack the messenger than figure out the message, right Paul? You seeking to get people banned, deleted, suspended?

    I hear someone got a stern message from the owner, how’s that work out for you? Person not named.

  7. Paul Schulte

    Dredd – … victims of Stockhold Syndrome do not have deep seated problems, they have only one problem that usually is overcome fairly easily.
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    Wrong:

    The Stockholm Syndrome was named in 1973 by psychologist Nils Bejerot after the hostage victims of a Stockholm, Sweden robbery and six-day kidnapping resisted being rescued, defended their captors, and refused to testify against them. Two of the women hostages eventually became engaged to the captors.

    When victims are under tremendous emotional and physical duress, they may begin to identify with their abusers or captors as a defensive mechanism. The victim develops a strategy of staying alive by keeping the captor happy and eventually sympathizes with the captor. Small acts of kindness on the part of the abuser increases the emotional bond.

    Stockholm Syndrome is a common survival mechanism of

    captured brides
    battered women
    physically and/or emotionally abused children
    incest victims
    prostitutes
    cult members
    concentration camp prisoners
    prisoners of war
    those in controlling and/or intimidating relationships
    hijacked victims
    hostages..

    It is believed that Patty Hearst and Elizabeth Smart experienced Stockholm Syndrome.

    Speak for yourself about it being easy to shake off.

    Don’t speak for Uncle Clarence.

  8. Bettykath, that actually sounds really good.

    I totally understand the fatigue with the passive aggressive stuff. Then when one responds out of frustration, one risks sinking to the level of the abusers and incurring the wrath of the deletion gods.

  9. Bett,

    Just have some See’s White Apple Pie truffle. It was to die for. Speaking of intelligence the trolls think they have a market on snark and monopolizing the threads.

    They say not to feed them, but they have been effective in getting a number of folks temporarily suspended from here. Hence, the less you engage them, not respond to them the better off you are.

    I think it was nick or Paul that was bragging one day about how many of the originals they have run off. Those they do not deem a threat they smooze with. They want them in there corner. I know you are smart enough to see through this, some aren’t.

    Good seeing you. Btw I really like Elaine and all you regular folks. Men and women.

  10. Paul Schulte

    Dredd – the Stockholm Syndrome would indicate that I was a victim and identified with my captors. I am not a victim and I identify with almost no one.

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    That is why I don’t call you Uncle Clarence.

  11. Elaine, Considering the source is a good alternative. I just got tired of ignoring the passive-aggressive snarks.

    Annie, How about chocolate covered bananas buried in strawberries?

  12. Turns out it makes a difference whether the situation is controlled by a technician or if the monkeys work out the distribution on their own.

    http://www.emory.edu/LIVING_LINKS/publications/articles/Brosnan_etal_2006.pdf

    excerpt:
    American Journal of Primatology 68:713–724 (2006)
    RESEARCH ARTICLE
    Partner’s Behavior, Not Reward Distribution, Determines Success in an Unequal Cooperative Task in Capuchin Monkeys
    SARAH F. BROSNAN, CASSIOPEIA FREEMAN, AND FRANS B.M. DE WAAL

    It was recently demonstrated that capuchin monkeys notice and respond
    to distributional inequity, a trait that has been proposed to support the
    evolution of cooperation in the human species. However, it is unknown
    how capuchins react to inequitable rewards in an unrestricted coopera-
    tive paradigm in which they may freely choose both whether to
    participate and, within the bounds of their partner’s behavior, which
    reward they will receive for their participation. We tested capuchin
    monkeys with such a design, using a cooperative barpull, which has been
    used with great success in the past. Contrary to our expectations, the
    equity of the reward distribution did not affect success or pulling
    behavior. However, the behavior of the partner in an unequal situation
    did affect overall success rates: pairs that had a tendency to alternate
    which individual received the higher-value food in unequal reward
    situations were more than twice as successful in obtaining rewards than
    pairs in which one individual dominated the higher-value food. This
    ability to equitably distribute rewards in inherently biased cooperative
    situations has profound implications for activities such as group hunts, in
    which multiple individuals work together for a single, monopolizable
    reward.

    1. bettykath – there have been some studies done on playing children and girls are more likely to make sure that everyone shares equally, but the boys play for keeps.

  13. Annie – that is a nice suggestion, but I cannot eat raw fruit, it has to be cooked or processed.

  14. Dredd – the Stockholm Syndrome would indicate that I was a victim and identified with my captors. I am not a victim and I identify with almost no one. And victims of Stockhold Syndrome do not have deep seated problems, they have only one problem that usually is overcome fairly easily.

  15. Dredd – if you send chocolate you are just going to waste your money.

  16. Paul Schulte

    bettykath – some people are very good at trying to stir the pot. Let’s just take Dredd’s comment “By Uncle Clarence” which is both demeaning and racist, unless Dredd is black in case it is just demeaning.
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    No it isn’t.

    It is recognition of The Stockholm Syndrome.

    The greatest psychological problem.

    He is the poster man of the syndrome.

    The kid has deep seated problems.

  17. bettykath – some people are very good at trying to stir the pot. Let’s just take Dredd’s comment “By Uncle Clarence” which is both demeaning and racist, unless Dredd is black in case it is just demeaning.

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