More evidence is emerging supporting Ferguson officer Darren Wilson’s claims in the shooting of Michael Brown. The most recent story states that Brown did not have his hands up in the air, as supporters have long claimed, when he was shot. The image of people holding her hands in the air has become the unifying symbol of case and the new evidence represents a new contradiction of the account of Brown’s friend, Dorian Johnson, who insisted that Brown was not shot in a struggle in the car and was shot with his hands in the air.
The fatal encounter between Wilson and Brown occurred shortly after Brown committed a strong arm robbery of a store owner in stealing some cigars:
However, Brown was unarmed when he was shot and Missouri Governor Jay Nixon quickly called for the prosecution of Wilson and referred to Brown as the victim and Eric Holder ordered a massive federal investigation of the shooting as a civil rights violation before the completion of the local investigation.
Much of the anger stemmed from the account of Johnson. As discussed earlier, the evidence indicates that Wilson was suffered some injuries in a struggle and that, consistent with his account, Brown was shot at close quarters, his blood was on the service weapon. The evidence also reportedly supports the claim that the gun was discarded within the car in a struggle.
Regardless of how one reads this evidence, it is another cautionary tale in rushing to judgment in such cases before the investigation is completed. The involvement of politicians and protesters in immediately demanding prosecution can have a highly distortive effect on such cases. There has been an immediate and negative response to any suggestions of evidence supporting the officer in this controversy. The fact is that this controversy — and subsequent rioting — was based on the account of Johnson and very early (and contested) stories of what occurred. As I have previously discussed, while the looting and rioting was not their fault, it was highly improper for politicians to assign guilt before the completion of even the initial investigation.
Wilson reportedly testified before the Grand Jury that he pulled over in his SUV to talk to Brown and his friend Dorian Johnson about the theft of cigarillos. He said that when tried to get out, Brown slammed the door shut and punched him in the face. He just that, when he reached for his weapon, Brown grabbed it and it was pointing for a time at Wilson in the struggling. He said that it was in this struggle that Brown was shot in the hand. He said that he then chased after Brown who allegedly turned and ran toward him. Wilson testified that he told him to stop and then fired. He said that when Wilson continued, he fired more shots.
The independent experts hired by the Post-Dispatch said that they believed that the evidence supported Wilson on some critical points and that a significant struggle occurred in direct and irreconcilable conflict with the account of Johnson. Forensic pathologist from San Francisco, Dr. Judy Melinek, said that Brown’s palms could not have been facing Wilson in the standard surrender position – with hands up and palms out – when he was shot. While other scenarios could explain the evidence and there is still the question of why so many shots were fired (even if the officer’s account is true), there may remain considerable conflicts in the original account.
Those conclusions would seem to support growing view that the Obama Administration also found insufficient evidence to support any federal charge in the shooting and is leaking stories to prepare people for the closing of the investigation.
Source: CBS
Paul C. Schulte,
I gave you the wrong link above concerning the law of when.
Here is the correct link, but in case you do not “want to to there”, here is the law of when:
I’m offering this information for what if may shed on this situation. It’s from an interview by a forensic pathologist (I believe). I think the interview was from “Here and Now”? I must paraphrase because I’m going from memory.
He pointed out that when the original autopsy was performed the family had wanted a govt. witness there. The govt. did not send a witness. Why does this matter? Because, he pointed out, an autopsy is really making a mess of the body. Things begin to be out of their original places and a subsequent autopsy may not (is not as likely to) be as accurate as the first.
If I can find this interview, i will post the link because I feel he made significant points to consider.
Jill – what was this government witness to do? And how were they to be qualified?
Karen S
Trooper – true. The window of opportunity for Brown’s parents to influence his decisions is gone forever now.
When we got our drivers’ licenses, my father gave each of us a lecture on what to do if we got pulled over by a police officer, and the proper way to act, even if the officer was completely in the wrong.
And we were also raised with the firm knowledge that our behavior in public would reflect directly on the family.
As for your other comment, my heart goes out to the Canadian soldier’s family. So tragic. I also just watched a news program where yet another extremist attacked two cops with an ax, and was shot. And then the school shooting. Oh, and a doctor back from treating Ebola patients decided to ride the subway and go bowling instead of self quarantining, and now has Ebola. Bad week for the news.
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A lot of our parents suffered from Stockholm Syndrome.
Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter
The timing of the shots may become relevant. Didn’t the Bird of Avon once say???
If he were shot, when tis shot, then ’twere well he were shot quickly. Shakespeare (McDonalds)
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
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Thou squeeketh from on thine hind legs.
But squeeketh well.
Max-1
Dredd,
The Constitution is older… easier to dismiss, I guess.
What’s a Fourth Amendment?
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It is part of the Bill of Rights (not far rights), the first ten amendments, which were demanded at the constitutional convention circa 1787 and then written by may man Madison.
It forbids the government to do any unreasonable searches or seizures.
Taking a life, such as in the instant case, is an unreasonable seizure according to Tennessee v Garner.
It causes fascists to have seizures (if you know what I mean Verne).
Trooper – true. The window of opportunity for Brown’s parents to influence his decisions is gone forever now.
When we got our drivers’ licenses, my father gave each of us a lecture on what to do if we got pulled over by a police officer, and the proper way to act, even if the officer was completely in the wrong.
And we were also raised with the firm knowledge that our behavior in public would reflect directly on the family.
As for your other comment, my heart goes out to the Canadian soldier’s family. So tragic. I also just watched a news program where yet another extremist attacked two cops with an ax, and was shot. And then the school shooting. Oh, and a doctor back from treating Ebola patients decided to ride the subway and go bowling instead of self quarantining, and now has Ebola. Bad week for the news.
The timing of the shots may become relevant. Didn’t the Bird of Avon once say???
If he were shot, when tis shot, then ’twere well he were shot quickly. Shakespeare (McDonalds)
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Paul C. Schulte
Garner is 30 years old, the article is 20 years old. Got anything up to date? And I give homework, I don’t do it!
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You get an F.
Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803) is still good law.
Your next assignment is The Law of When.
You other doggies take your time.
(And your be calm pills.)
Marbury v Madison was a grab by the Supreme Court to allow it to use its jurisdiction of overview, but only in federal cases.
Quite frankly I have no earthy idea why you think the law of when, which is not a law to begin with, has anything to do with any of this.
Dredd,
The Constitution is older… easier to dismiss, I guess.
What’s a Fourth Amendment?
Dredd,
Don’t piss me off… I’m the LAW and I’m armed!
O.K Corrall style… ‘pitchew-pitchew-pitchew’ locked and loaded.
LOL
Little boys…
Paul C. Schulte
You are a legend in your own mind.
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You are a mind in your own legend.
Instead of armchair quarterbacking we could, oh, I don’t know, WAIT FOR THE REPORT.
How was he fleeing if he was shot in the front? If he was running away he’d have been shot in the back.
We only have some of the information at this point.
Max-1
I guess what Dredd is saying… coppers can’t kill fleeing suspects.
What some are saying is that they should be able to kill fleeing suspects.
I guess what I don’t understand is that if a suspect is fleeing, HOW is the officer in fear of their lives in that moment of flight, exactly. Adrenaline filled perspective aside…
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Good observation.
I has nothing to do with preserving life, it has to do with the blood thirst to murder.
That is what they want to become legal like it was in “the good ole daze” …
Paul C. Schulte
I do desire we may be better strangers. – Shakespeare (As You Like It)
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Me too “we.”
I guess what Dredd is saying… coppers can’t kill fleeing suspects.
What some are saying is that they should be able to kill fleeing suspects.
I guess what I don’t understand is that if a suspect is fleeing, HOW is the officer in fear of their lives in that moment of flight, exactly. Adrenaline filled perspective aside…
Paul C.
Yep. They sure are effective… If human rights abuses are your goal.
Sorry Dredd, didn’t see that. You derailed me with the Subterranean blues…
This reading assignment is for PC the S, yorkshire trooper pooper, and dogbuscuits.
You shall curtail your irrelevant, numnuts, braindead, and pukey nonsense and submit a report to knickers concerning this ancient history:
(THE JouRNAL oF CRIMINAL LAW & CRiMINOLOGY). What is that peeweee, you want to do that homework too cause this is a lahw blawg … cool go for the goggy biscuits.
Your specific assignment is to explain why Luddites, LINO, RINO, and DINO jerks prefer hogs to reason.
Extra points for limiting utterly stupid statements.
Garner is 30 years old, the article is 20 years old. Got anything up to date? And I give homework, I don’t do it!
Yeah Max-1 I already quoted that too.
They were using Saint Raygun, a sound weapon that makes protesters bleed from their librul liver lilied red and white shoe laces.
The LINOs here are miffed at me for not waiting till they Brown-Wuz-Uh-Thug report to come in.
Max-1 – as I said before, it is nice to know they got what they paid for. Those sound disturbers actually work. 🙂
The leaks aren’t helping and the media’s reporting and distortion of said leaks agitate the people of Ferguson ever more. Top it off with this:
Amnesty International Releases New Ferguson Report Documenting Human Rights Abuses
http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/press-releases/amnesty-international-releases-new-ferguson-report-documenting-human-rights-abuses