Report: Brown Was Not Shot With His Hands In The Air

1408390089660_Image_galleryImage_Officer_DARREN_WILSON_pic1408392017717_Image_galleryImage_Piaget_Crenshaw_who_livesMore evidence is emerging supporting Ferguson officer Darren Wilson’s claims in the shooting of Michael Brown. The most recent story states that Brown did not have his hands up in the air, as supporters have long claimed, when he was shot. The image of people holding her hands in the air has become the unifying symbol of case and the new evidence represents a new contradiction of the account of Brown’s friend, Dorian Johnson, who insisted that Brown was not shot in a struggle in the car and was shot with his hands in the air.

The fatal encounter between Wilson and Brown occurred shortly after Brown committed a strong arm robbery of a store owner in stealing some cigars:

However, Brown was unarmed when he was shot and Missouri Governor Jay Nixon quickly called for the prosecution of Wilson and referred to Brown as the victim and Eric Holder ordered a massive federal investigation of the shooting as a civil rights violation before the completion of the local investigation.

Middle_of_the_crowd_in_FergusonMuch of the anger stemmed from the account of Johnson. As discussed earlier, the evidence indicates that Wilson was suffered some injuries in a struggle and that, consistent with his account, Brown was shot at close quarters, his blood was on the service weapon. The evidence also reportedly supports the claim that the gun was discarded within the car in a struggle.

Regardless of how one reads this evidence, it is another cautionary tale in rushing to judgment in such cases before the investigation is completed. The involvement of politicians and protesters in immediately demanding prosecution can have a highly distortive effect on such cases. There has been an immediate and negative response to any suggestions of evidence supporting the officer in this controversy. The fact is that this controversy — and subsequent rioting — was based on the account of Johnson and very early (and contested) stories of what occurred. As I have previously discussed, while the looting and rioting was not their fault, it was highly improper for politicians to assign guilt before the completion of even the initial investigation.

Wilson reportedly testified before the Grand Jury that he pulled over in his SUV to talk to Brown and his friend Dorian Johnson about the theft of cigarillos. He said that when tried to get out, Brown slammed the door shut and punched him in the face. He just that, when he reached for his weapon, Brown grabbed it and it was pointing for a time at Wilson in the struggling. He said that it was in this struggle that Brown was shot in the hand. He said that he then chased after Brown who allegedly turned and ran toward him. Wilson testified that he told him to stop and then fired. He said that when Wilson continued, he fired more shots.

The independent experts hired by the Post-Dispatch said that they believed that the evidence supported Wilson on some critical points and that a significant struggle occurred in direct and irreconcilable conflict with the account of Johnson. Forensic pathologist from San Francisco, Dr. Judy Melinek, said that Brown’s palms could not have been facing Wilson in the standard surrender position – with hands up and palms out – when he was shot. While other scenarios could explain the evidence and there is still the question of why so many shots were fired (even if the officer’s account is true), there may remain considerable conflicts in the original account.

Those conclusions would seem to support growing view that the Obama Administration also found insufficient evidence to support any federal charge in the shooting and is leaking stories to prepare people for the closing of the investigation.

Source: CBS

287 thoughts on “Report: Brown Was Not Shot With His Hands In The Air”

  1. Nick, You should have spent some time in St. Louis. Plenty of Italians. Every year they celebrate Hill Day down at Dago(*) Hill.

    Dago is not a pejorative on the Hill. It’s what the locals call themselves. I used to go there with my grandfather. He was born in Italy.

  2. DBQ, You are assuming a fact not in evidence. That being folks accepting judicial decisions regarding anything involving race. I often think what it would have been like if the internet was what it is today during the OJ trial. Got a taste w/ Zimmerman.

  3. Dole Pineapples, so good some hide the fact that they eat them, all the while disparaging other Dole Pineapple eaters. Or some try to assert some cheat while eating the Dole Pineapples, while the juice of the Dole Pineapple runs down their arms and makes their face sticky.

  4. You know. There is really no point in participating in this discussion since some people have their minds already made up irregardless. Waiting until the evidence has been presented and the Grand Jury has had a chance to review and deliberate seems to be not even a consideration. Even then no amount of evidence either for or against a verdict of guilt or innocence will sway anyone. Locked in minds.

    Waste of time. Like trying to teach a pig to sing.

  5. And SWM. I say this not ball busting. You must resent having to live in Dallas. I don’t think I would like living there either, but the heat would be my biggest problem. Hell, KC damn near killed me. The Midwest has too few “Eyetalians” as I am called. That was a culture shock. Moving from Ct., Pa. and NJ and being called “Eyetalian” in the Midwest. We all have our crosses to bear, SWM. The good sisters taught us that.

  6. Jack

    “And you are our canard in the dole mine.”

    Dredd, That was a personal attack. Damn it! Knock it off. If you can’t follow the rules, please go elsewhere. If you can’t understand the rules, leave and come back when you can.
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    When someone who doesn’t know jack attacks SWM they deserve my moderation.

  7. Madison is the most segregated city in the US. I have many black friends here as well as I did every other place I’ve lived. In some respects, I much prefer hanging w/ black people. They can be more interesting and MUCH more honest. Most all folks where I grew up in the east are blunt and honest .White folk in the Midwest are not. They tiptoe and pussyfoot w/ faux civility. So, I need to hang / more black people since living in the Midwest just to be able to have honest and straightforward conversations. We “fascists” are like that.

  8. “And you are our canard in the dole mine.”

    Dredd, That was a personal attack. Damn it! Knock it off. If you can’t follow the rules, please go elsewhere. If you can’t understand the rules, leave and come back when you can.

  9. Nick Spinelli

    Stephen. There are posts from today about Holder and Obama these cultists are avoiding. They are angry and depressed. SWM is our canary in the coal mine.
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    And you are our canard in the dole mine.

  10. nick, I only had one really close black friend in Dallas. It was more segregated except for the democratic party. I had many more in Minneapolis and many in Chicago.

  11. Stephen

    My outlook on this case from the beginning has been that I will accept the grand jury’s decision, no matter what it is.

    Why anybody would view this differently is beyond my understanding.

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    Then you need to expand your understanding to the level of law that applies to all police departments.

    Constitutional law, the supreme law of our land, does not allow the behavior by police that the Missouri “fleeing felon” statute does.

    The Missouri petite jury instructions, however, are in compliance with federal law.

    The grand jury is not given the petite jury instructions.

    Another problem with the grand jury escapade (to cover up a crime?) is being conducted by a prosecutor whose father was killed by a black man when the prosecutor was young enough to be severely traumatized by it.

    Yet he refused to recuse himself, and let the accused testify for four hours, but has not called any of the many other witnesses.

    The appearance of fairness, not merely actual fairness, is the better standard for such things (like with judges).

    It does not pass the smell test and will do damage to the perception of justice.

  12. Stephen. There are posts from today about Holder and Obama these cultists are avoiding. They are angry and depressed. SWM is our canary in the coal mine.

  13. “Stephen Yep, we really don’t attract much of your Stormfront vote.”

    Yes, ma’am.

    Godwin rule invoked.

    Fascinating that you refuse to acknowledge the inevitable outcome of your tactics. Obviously, Ferguson and blacks are just pawns in your game. You really don’t care what happens to those people.

  14. nick, My black friend and I could spot the white privilege types in Dallas. We just rolled our eyes at each other.

  15. Way to throw “fascists” out there SWM. Right out of the Dem talking points. You diminish yourself when you pull that crap.

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