Attorney Matt McLaughlin, an attorney in Huntington Beach, California, is facing a call for disbarment after he filed for a statewide resolution that would legalize the execution of gay people and make it a crime to support gay rights in the state. Anyone can file such papers and, for just $200, force the attorney general to prepare a title and a summary for the proposed new law. The question is whether this despicable act can or should be used for a bar action as conduct that shows that he is not of “good moral character.”
The 2016 initiative, named the “Sodomite Suppression Act”, is awaiting further review by the office of the state attorney general, Kamala Harris, and would mandate “any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head, or by any other convenient method.” It would also make it a crime to support gay rights, punishable by a $1 million fine and up to 10 years in prison (as well as expulsion from the state). It would also make it illegal to distribute “sodomistic propaganda” to “any person under the age of majority”. Furthermore, being a “sodomite” or distributing “sodomistic propaganda” would disqualify a resident from serving in public office or public employment and from enjoying any public benefit. McLaughlin stated in his proposal that it is “better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God’s just wrath”. Suffice it to say, McLaughlin has some serious issues as well as a serious need for psychoanalysis.
However, what he did was the exercise of a legal action with the political system. There is an ironic twist to the notion of his claims of morality being used to establish that he is not of “good moral character.” We have faced this type of issue before. If an attorney does not engage in discriminatory or hateful treatment of clients or witnesses, should he be punished for his political or moral views? I tend to be leery of speech being the basis for criminal or bar sanctions because it is difficult to see where to draw the line. There are many attorneys who engage in political speech as individuals that is deemed insulting to different races or genders.
State senator Ricardo Lara and others have filed a formal complaint with the state bar. It is not clear if any proceeding would bring up past controversies with McLaughlin, including his 2004 proposed initiative to add the King James Bible as a textbook in California public schools. Once again, such efforts are taken in his capacity as a citizen within the political system.
What do you think?
Nick
Your argument about Magic Johnson is missing historical details. In 1991, HIV and AIDS was a death sentence. Full stop! Go no further and ask, HOW a human being can condemn a man for responding to a health crisis in full bloom like that. Remember, this was right before the cocktail drug mixes that have prolonged the lives of so many people whom you and Squeeky advocate letting “just die”. Such kind hearted souls you both have, wishing ill will upon others, especially those who are deathly ill or living with an illness that can take a life.
Let me guess, do you also think cancer patients should suffer their sins, too?
I call a buffoon, a buffoon, because he is a buffoon and the truth shall make you free. I look upon it as a public service message. You’re welcome.
FWIW, Snopes has a piece on the autism vaccine thing, based on Dr. Thompson the whistleblower’s, statements.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
@ Paul C. Schulte
“Ken – I read the entire article, however, based on what was submitted, I did not see a problem with the study being withdrawn and subjects taken out that did not meet the new criteria.
“I would have to see the raw data of both studies before I potentially got up in arms about the results. I am only going on what you submitted. That fact that he ‘feels’ bad is on him.”
So the senior CDC research scientist who was actually involved in the study becomes a whistleblower, says that his team cooked the books on the autism data, and says it was the low-point of his career, and you say you see nothing wrong with removing the data from the study that showed a 236% increase in autism in black kids given the MMR, and that if he feels bad about it, it’s “on him.”
Do you understand why you have a credibility problem with so many people?
Probably not.
Ken – that he caved to begin with is his problem. However, I am more interested to see whether he cooked the books to begin with. There is a lot of that going around in the science industry.
What I see is a study that uses a new qualifier (actual birth certificates) which cuts the number by 41%. That still leaves a number that is larger than most studies have to be. I do not see why this qualifier does not make the science valid?
NickS
Plus, I think Kramer is HIV positive, sooo I bet he does want somebody to find a cure, But a cure might not be possible. In the mean time, I wonder why he doesn’t go back to his original position:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/aids/interviews/kramer.html
Yeah, DUH! I mean HIV is something that it is really very simple to either end, or at least greatly reduce- – -(1)Stop letting people put their weenie into your rear end. (2) If you simply find life not worth living unless you can permit people to put their weenie into your rear end, first make them get a blood test, and always wear a condom. (3) If you are somebody who simply finds life not worth living unless you can put your weenie into somebody else’s rear end, then get blood tested and always wear a condom. (4) If you are HIV positive, quit having sex with other people. (5) If your partner is HIV positive, do not let him put his weenie into your rear end, period.
Notice the common element in all the above??? Just reducing the promiscuity would work miracles.
@Max-1
People who care more about having an org*sm in a particular fashion, that is in somebody’s rear end, than they do about their partners’ health should be blamed and shamed. What, do you want to give them a humanitarian award???
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Nick
And the advantage of calling Mr Kramer names does what to further a cure, how? It’s as if you’re asserting fighting for a cure (aka life) is against your better judgement. Odd… I thought you admired people who don’t succumb to pc, Mr Kramer being Mr non pc himself, giving the RR Admin the big FU!
issac
The petition…
https://www.change.org/p/doj-file-criminal-charges-of-fraud-against-bank-officers-named-in-evidence-before-the-statute-of-limitations-expires-this-year
Kramer is a buffoon. He predicted in 1991, Magic Johnson would be dead in several years. For those publicly educated, that was 24 years ago.
I hope this doesn’t become a double post, but the moderator said that my first one had more than 2 links, to remove the extra ones, and re-post it, so here it is.
@ Squeaky Fromm, Scourge of the Gayness
“@Ken Rogers,
“Believe it or not, I do not put anything past the Government-Industrial Complex, sooo I have no difficulty in believing that numbers will be fudged if money is at stake. For example, the Global Warming data numbers, which more and more people are calling into question. That being said, I do not think this is happening on the HIV/AIDS front.”
In other words, Squeaks, you don’t put anything past the Government-Industrial Complex unless it supports your homophobic narrative. 🙂
As a former CDC-trained epidemiologist who has evaluated the evidence for and against the HIV/AIDS hypothesis in depth and over a long period, I’m here to tell you that the discovery of the “probable cause” of AIDS was announced at a government press conference, not in the peer-reviewed literature, and has been promoted by an unrelenting propaganda campaign by the Government-Industrial Complex ever since, in order to siphon taxpayer funds for HIV/AIDS “research,” and to sell test kits and anti-retroviral drugs.
Here’s a guest column that I co-authored with Dr. Peter Duesberg a couple of years ago, after a newspaper ran a story about HIV testing’s having become added to the US medical “standard of care”:
“This column was written by virologist Peter H. Duesberg, Professor of Molecular Biology at the University of California, Berkeley and member of the National Academy of Sciences and by Ken Rogers, former sexually transmitted disease (STD) epidemiologist and health educator trained by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC).
“In the article entitled “New HIV screening guidelines ease access” which appeared in the Herald-Times on Saturday, August 17, important aspects of testing for Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) were not addressed, placing H-T readers at risk of being importantly misled regarding the risks and benefits of HIV testing.
“Leaving aside for the moment the body of scientific evidence militating against the HIV/AIDS hypothesis and the growing number of medical scientists, physicians, and other health care professionals who question its scientific validity in whole or in, it is important to realize how limited in value current HIV testing is, even for detecting the presence of HIV in the person being tested.
“As Virginia Tech chemistry professor emeritus Henry Bauer has written, ‘So-called “HIV tests” have not been proven to detect infection by HIV (human immunodeficiency virus, a retrovirus), even though for more than a quarter century these tests have been widely used to diagnose such infection. Manufacturers of the test kits do not claim that the tests detect infection. The tests are for and were approved [by the FDA] only for screening blood, where sensitivity rather than specificity is the prime criterion and false positives are of relatively little concern.
” ‘Technical discussion of how to detect HIV infection makes plain that in themselves the tests are insufficient to diagnose infection. In point of fact, “positive HIV” tests may be the result of dozens [emphasis added] of such conditions as hypergammaglobulinemia, tuberculosis, vaccination against influenza, receipt of tetanus immune globulin, or even pregnancy.”
“ ‘The mistaken equating of ‘HIV-positive’ with ‘infected by HIV’ has the gravest consequences: healthy individuals who happen at some time to test ‘HIV-positive’ have suffered great physical, psychological, and/or financial damage.
“ ‘There is no gold standard for HIV tests. Current practice is to take positive tests as proof of active infection even though the antibody tests have not been shown to be specific for HIV antibodies, and even the presence of HIV antibodies has not been proved to signify active infection by HIV rather than past exposure and acquired immunity.
“ ‘As a result, healthy people may be doomed, without justification, to lifelong administration of toxic drugs. This applies particularly to people in groups traditionally regarded as ‘high risk.’ (Henry Bauer, Ph.D., Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons Volume 15 Number 1 Spring 2010; http://www.jpands.org/vol15no1/bauer.pdf)
“As a result of these and other considerations that limitations of space preclude going into here, it is our urgent recommendation that it be recognized that being tested for HIV, with its attendant risks of false-positive error, misdiagnosis, and possible treatment with extremely toxic antiretroviral drugs such as AZT is fraught with physical, emotional, and financial peril.”
Squeeky,
So you choose the shame and blame game… like that helps anyone BUT your agenda. Agian Squeeky, choosing to let people die speaks more about your moral integrity than it does about the people you prefer just die…
issac
70 days then the perps walk free… from the largest heist perpetrated upon the American taxpayer. And Obama’s bummed about his DOJ pick not getting full support…
@Max-1
IIRC, Kramer once said that HIV positive people should stop having sex period, because it was obvious that they were not going to be responsible. Heck, half the gay guys who are HIV positive don’t even know it, because they are too darn predatory to even go get checked out. They care more about sexual satisfaction than they do the life and health of their numerous partners.
Kramer is full of poop. IMHO. Gay men have only their selves to blame for this, and he is doing them no favor to help avoid personal responsibility. I do not feel like spending billions of dollars so a bunch of idiots can promiscuously sodomize each other in relative safety.
I will try to find that Kramer quote again. I think I posted here once, although nobody probably paid it any attention then either.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
“Anti-gay pastor Rick Scarborough, notorious for insisting that HIV/AIDS is God’s punishment for homosexuality, is working with Religious Right leader James Dobson, televangelist James Robison and conservative legal activist Mat Staver to recruit leading Religious Right activists and politicians to sign a pledge to commit civil disobedience in protest of a potential Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage.
A team of prominent Christian leaders is preparing a statement that will inform the public – including justices on the U.S. Supreme Court – that they will engage in civil disobedience rather than follow a ruling that establishes homosexual “marriage” in the United States.
Among those leading the charge is James Dobson of Family Talk Radio, Rick Scarborough of Vision America Action, Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel and James Robison of Life Today, whose brand new publication called The Stream reported on a recent telephone conference call discussing the issue.
Stream Executive Editor Jay Richards told WND there were about 20 other Christian leaders on the call. He said members of Congress have expressed an interest in the plan, which will be disclosed in the next few days in a statement regarding marriage and the U.S. Supreme Court.
Scarborough confirmed congressmen “are lining up to sign the document.”
“The undeniable case is that when same-sex “marriage’ becomes, declared by the Supreme Court, as the law of the land, they will begin to enforce it, like all civil rights laws.”
That is where the civil disobedience will loom large.
“We’re saying, before that, we will never obey that tyrannical law. It’s counter to natural law, and God’s higher law.””
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/21/1372235/-Anti-Gay-Religious-Right-Already-In-Meltdown-Mode-Over-Upcoming-SCOTUS-Marriage-Equality-Ruling
Squeeky
Careless sex is just, well… careless. NO? Regardless of who’s sexing who…
So, the best medicine is prevention. Yet, shame and blame does not encourage prevention, in fact the shame and blame schtick drives people the opposite direction. It forces people into a closet. It imparts shame onto the emotional side of being a human being. It triggers people to seek comfort is areas the general society shuns… Like misfit island. And on misfit island they have crank, crack, meth, pot and alcohol to ease that pain that society shames with… There, they aren’t allowed to feel secure within a committed relationship because the greater society has made it illegal to be committed.
Again Squeeky, it’s a choice you’re making. Choosing to demean others for the condition society places upon them is just rude. Callous and rude.
http://youtu.be/VhS-YQzcy5I
The Religious Right is going nuts over the impending Supreme Court decision on same sex marriage. They are already calling for >b>martyrdom. Sounds familiar.
Paul
Twice, snap, snap-quick draw Schultz
Max-1
70 days left for JT to really use his minerals. If he did, I would vote for him. You know he is going to run for something soon.
Someone has an anal fixation. Non stop anal sex scare tactics. Hmmmm.
Nick,
Think of it this way… this gay man is just making sure you’re keeping it straight.
off topic…
We have 70 days left on the dtatute of limitations to press the DOJ into a prosecution case for the 2008 Wall Street crash/theft of American taxes that went to
payoffer…rewarder… bail out. Too big to jail we were told… so, we need to tell the DOJ enough! 70 days left.Crystal meth is poison to whomever uses it. Crystal meth is a drug of choice amongst gay men. David Sedaris has written both poignantly and humorously of the scourge.
Some people walk around w/ redwood forests on their freakin’ shoulders, making it nearly freakin’ impossible to have a goddamn normal conversation.