Attorney Matt McLaughlin, an attorney in Huntington Beach, California, is facing a call for disbarment after he filed for a statewide resolution that would legalize the execution of gay people and make it a crime to support gay rights in the state. Anyone can file such papers and, for just $200, force the attorney general to prepare a title and a summary for the proposed new law. The question is whether this despicable act can or should be used for a bar action as conduct that shows that he is not of “good moral character.”
The 2016 initiative, named the “Sodomite Suppression Act”, is awaiting further review by the office of the state attorney general, Kamala Harris, and would mandate “any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head, or by any other convenient method.” It would also make it a crime to support gay rights, punishable by a $1 million fine and up to 10 years in prison (as well as expulsion from the state). It would also make it illegal to distribute “sodomistic propaganda” to “any person under the age of majority”. Furthermore, being a “sodomite” or distributing “sodomistic propaganda” would disqualify a resident from serving in public office or public employment and from enjoying any public benefit. McLaughlin stated in his proposal that it is “better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God’s just wrath”. Suffice it to say, McLaughlin has some serious issues as well as a serious need for psychoanalysis.
However, what he did was the exercise of a legal action with the political system. There is an ironic twist to the notion of his claims of morality being used to establish that he is not of “good moral character.” We have faced this type of issue before. If an attorney does not engage in discriminatory or hateful treatment of clients or witnesses, should he be punished for his political or moral views? I tend to be leery of speech being the basis for criminal or bar sanctions because it is difficult to see where to draw the line. There are many attorneys who engage in political speech as individuals that is deemed insulting to different races or genders.
State senator Ricardo Lara and others have filed a formal complaint with the state bar. It is not clear if any proceeding would bring up past controversies with McLaughlin, including his 2004 proposed initiative to add the King James Bible as a textbook in California public schools. Once again, such efforts are taken in his capacity as a citizen within the political system.
What do you think?
@ Paul C. Schulte
“Darren – I am putting together a study proving Democrats cause cancer. Everywhere they live there are cancer clusters. The statistics are there.”
I shared your research idea with a friend who’s a Democrat, and he said, “He’ll never get funding for the study. Everybody already *knows* that Democrats cause Republicans in the body politic.”
No doubt a much better bet is a study to determine if HIV causes galloping gayness syndrome. That should be good for at least $10 mil from the NIH. Just be sure you highlight “HIV” repeatedly in your grant app.
And the grant would be renewable, as it looks like they’ve allocated funding for the next fifty (50) years plus, until they find a “cure” for that little rascal.
If you’ve got any Merck stock, hang onto it. It could buy *your* great-grandkids’ yachts, too.
It may, unlike a Democrat, be a harmless passenger virus, but it’s got your Gummint-Pharma-Complex RE-search STAR-power, Baby, so get crackin’ on that grant app.
Squeeky Cleanjeans will probably help you write it, if you tell her there’ll be plenty of the gayness proctology involved. 🙂
Ken – been rethinking my study and decided to take the the Michael Mann approach. I will start by saying that Republicans cause cancer, then get funding from the usual suspects. However, when I publish, I will change Republican to Democrat and then hide the date as proprietary. Immediately, I will proclaim the science is settled.
Although McLaughlin’s actions seem extreme to our cultural standards of free unbridled sex, unchecked, the path we are going will lead to the suppression of free speech like we see happening in the U.K. Recently reported is the case of Michael Overd being fined or imprisoned for 45 days if he does not pay the fine for nothing more than speech.
Taunton street preacher convicted for homophobic sermon
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-32017649
Happy, I think you seriously need to calm down, reassess your animus toward Ken. It seems for some reason, you’ve created an enemy where there is none. No one has told me to not speak to you, but Happy, your behavior has escalated and become increasingly odd. I don’t want to get sucked into whatever is going on with you, okay?
There is not a thing going on with me Ingannie. As far as I am concerned we are good. Thank you remarking to me about Ken Rogers though because I am Intuitive about people.
I am in no way “bringing you into this” but these are the posts I just looked up and although I usually will take some abuse, I refuse to from this particular poster.
Ken Rogers
@ Unhappiepappies
“The [housing] market collapsed because no one can balance a freaking check book.”
Well, I can balance a check book, and I know several other people who can, but you don’t think the Gypsies caused it, then?
Maybe *that’s* why Squeeky hasn’t gone after them along with the “blacks” and homosexuals.
If you don’t recognize several of Squeeky’s rants as racist and homophobic, I don’t know what to tell you, other than to take a look at your own postures.
Wouldn’t “black” people I’ve identified as such have to read what I’ve written in order for me to pander to them, or can I somehow pander to them without our knowing each other?
Skip to next post and his reply to mine and my unmasking
happypappies
Kenny Rogers or whomever your name really is
Anyone who believes that Iraq had anything to do with the attacks of 9/11 is wallowing– not dipping a toe in– but *wallowing* in willful ignorance and/or a stupefied state of Cheney-esque disinformation bewilderment.
disinformation hahahahaha
And you are correcting Nick for grammar.
There is only one poster I know who tells people what to do and who to talke to. And I wasn’t aware that he was on here giving orders again 😉 😉
He always posts last
Ken Rogers
@ Nicky Spinelli, Professional People Reader
“Kenny is an old timer here, under a new name. He’ll change names or just run off. I read people for a living.”
Your being a Professional People Reader may explain why you pretty obviously haven’t spent much time reading anything else.
Keep waving around your little pocket knife, and we may have some fun. 🙂
There is more but I am sure you get the general Idea 😉
Max-1
happypappies
Who did Jesus wish would “just die”?
What did Jesus say we should do, instead?
Now, which do you court?
“He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities.
The chastisement of our peace was upon him.
Max-1 I am furious with that truther Ken Rogers and if you go back and look at the comments again you will see it was Squeeky who brought up the Gay thing. I don’t have problem with this and I have admitted it publicly before and I have fought a battle publicly for you before when you ran off with Inga who now is best buddies with Ken Rogers who has told her not to Speak to Me. The man has formed a Cult of sorts and morphed into a monster of sorts on here and I am watching him. It is nothing to do with you. Okay?
“All we like sheep have gone astray we have turned every one to his own way
And the Lord hath Laid on Him the Iniquities of us All.”
Now, I talked about this moving Lenten Scripture and they all laughed at me and said, can you believe this and compared Christians to ISIS. I know they can’t help it and I know it’s my Cross too Max-1, I am just saying you have to help too.
There are reports that Roundup is also linked to Parkinson’s Disease.
Roundup causes everything like DDT
Darren – I am putting together a study proving Democrats cause cancer. Everywhere they live there are cancer clusters. The statistics are there.
happypappies
I am beginning to suspect an organic cause, like some some kind of chemical.
= = =
Like this?
Study: Monsanto’s Roundup Herbicide Probably Causes Cancer
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/03/monsanto-herbicide-cause-cancer
I would like to point out that these several states I’ve been linking to highlighting the animus bills against the LGBT community are all GOP driven initiatives…
The assurance of “good moral character” isn’t for the protection of the attorney’s clients, but rather a guarantee that the attorney won’t bring the legal profession into disrepute. Absolute free speech doesn’t apply. If an attorney repeatedly used profanity in the courtroom, he would properly be sanctioned. Proposing a resolution so poorly thought out and impracticable that its whole effect is merely inflammatory certainly shows a cynical disregard for the legal process. That is censurable.
happypappies
Who did Jesus wish would “just die”?
What did Jesus say we should do, instead?
Now, which do you court?
happypappies
Squeeky has said time adinfinitum… kill the gays, let them die. That doesn’t come from any place where love exists. Peace.
Max-1
Kill the gays let them die – where does that come from not from someone who loves
What about people who want the Israel People to die because they kill the Pakistan people or What about the Iranian People that are killing their women but we are supposed to make peace with them and what about so many other things that Jesus was the tender shot for and he was despised and rejected of men, a man of sorrow. Surely he has borne our grief and carried our sorrow.
A followup to Gov. Mike Pence’s threat to sign the pro-discrimination bill in Indiana… Let the boycotts begin!
Gen Con threatens the governor it will leave the state over Indiana’s controversial SB 101
http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/24/8285287/gen-con-threatens-the-governor-it-will-leave-the-state-over-indianas
The letter to Gov. Mike Pence:
http://files.gencon.com/Gen_Con_Statement_Regarding_SB101.pdf
@Ken Rogers
I read the Frontiers link, and many of the comments terein. It was interesting, but I am still going to stick with the majoritarian view on this one. Nearly all of the Frontiers points were rebutted here, IMHO:
http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/myths
OTOH, if you are right, I suspect that the truth will eventually win out.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
@happypappies
Oh, its not so much that they bash me, but it’s the way some of them are just sooo oblivious to reality that is fascinating. For example, some of them are ready to lynch Ugandans or whoever who purpose executing gays, along with any Christians they can find in the neighborhood. Then, when you ask them who kills more gays, the Ugandans or other gays who are HIV positive and they just zone out on it. They are sooo afraid of offending the PC Gods that they are willing to participate in the sacrifice of about 30,000 gay men per year. I find that mindset absolutely fascinating. It is like some kind of weird mental illness.
That same kind of thing occurs on other issues, like race, and events like Trayvon and Michael Brown. There is just such a mindless adherence to the race narrative, that they will spin around like the Tasmanian Devil spewing out all kinds of silly drivel about how self defense laws are wrong. Then they band together like those little kids in Lord of Flies all while pretending they are rational. Bizarre!
Sooo, I am kind of like a physicist sometimes, and I deconstruct their positions and crash their little thought particles into each other to see what kind of sub-atomic particles makes up the larger one which I guess you call the Moron. One day, I actually may figure out how come some people are sooo stupid and/or brain dead. I am beginning to suspect an organic cause, like some some kind of chemical. It is more interesting than it is fun.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter.
Oh, Squeeky, they are going to cure leukemia with it according to this
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/02/14/university-pennsylvania-researchers-use-hiv-virus-help-cure-cancer
btw. I liked your analogy of Lord of the Flies but I am thinking more on the Beelzebub himself in this case.
Now – this is why I missed and needed your input – Sooo, I am kind of like a physicist sometimes, and I deconstruct their positions and crash their little thought particles into each other to see what kind of sub-atomic particles makes up the larger one which I guess you call the Moron. One day, I actually may figure out how come some people are sooo stupid and/or brain dead. I am beginning to suspect an organic cause, like some some kind of chemical. It is more interesting than it is fun.
Squeaky Fromm Pom, Girl Medical Scientist and Scourge of the Gayness
“@Ken Rogers
“I looked your theories up as they regard HIV/AIDs, and it seems that the claims are about 20 years old, and of dubious value.”
“Sooo, while I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, this one, this one seems pretty much put to bed. I would suggest that one exercise a great deal of caution when it comes to permitting one’s self to be sodomized but pretty much by anybody. but particularly by strangers.
“Plus, if you are a man who has sex with other men, you have a moral obligation to get yourself checked out, even if an unhappy answer interferes with your future sex life.”
Let’s see. Here are a few of the facts that I called to your attention:
1) The drug companies put in their test kit inserts that the tests are *antibody* tests and cannot tell with any specificity whether someone has the HI virus in his/her body, and are not suitable for diagnosing AIDS;
2) I cited an expert with a doctorate in chemistry who pointed out that at least 60 medical conditions can produce a positive antibody reaction to the HIV tests;
3) I cited the statistic that although AIDS is virtually non-existent in Japan, 25% of the population are “HIV positive”;
4) I quoted Kerry Mullis, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for his development of polymerase chain reaction (PCR) for testing viral load, as saying that no one has ever documented, through purification and isolation of HIV in an AIDS patient, that it causes AIDS;
5) I cited a scientific essay written by a world-renowned virologist and member of the National Academy of Science on his drug-AIDS hypothesis, which accounts for all the etiological evidence for the AIDS syndrome, unlike the HIV/AIDS hypothesis that cannot account for phenomena such as untreated HIV-positives who, even after decades, have not developed AIDS;
6) I cited evidence of major fraud and collusion with the pharmaceutical industry at the CDC, whose pronouncements you nonetheless persist in treating like holy writ, and whose advice you continue to urge upon everyone, i.e., to “get tested,” especially if they’ve got the gayness.
So you surfed the Internet for a few minutes and read a Wikipedia article on the subject, which entry read as though it could well have been written by someone on a pharmaceutical company’s payroll, and decided that my “theories” (whatever those are) didn’t meet your rigorous scientific criteria. 🙂
I’m reminded of Norman Mailer’s observation of the feminist Kate Millet that “She has a mind like a flat-iron.” 🙂
I’m pretty sure that he was alluding to her being conspicuously so refractory to new facts that they just bounced off her mind like BBs off a griddle, if they didn’t pretty immediately comport with her prior beliefs.
For those whose minds are at least a little more porous than a flat-iron, and who are receptive to non-officially approved scientific information, and who aren’t interested in being emotionally, financially, or physically devastated by advocates and practitioners of the HIV/AIDS hypothesis (and that’s all it is, a hypothesis, and a singularly weak and dangerous one, at that), here’s an excellent summary of the reasons for the persistence, among some 2,000 doctors, researchers, and epidemiologists around the world, over a period of some 30 years, of dissent from the Government-Medical-Industrial Complex’s big money-maker, the HIV/AIDS boondoggle:
“Public Health, 23 September 2014 | doi: 10.3389/fpubh.2014.00154
Questioning the HIV-AIDS hypothesis: 30 years of dissent
Patricia Goodson*
“Since 1984, when the hypothesis that HIV-causes-AIDS was announced, many scholars have questioned the premise and offered alternative explanations. Thirty years later, competing propositions as well as questioning of the mainstream hypothesis persist, often supported by prominent scientists.
“This article synthesizes the most salient questions raised, alongside theories proposing non-viral causes for AIDS. The synthesis is organized according to four categories of data believed to support the HIV-AIDS hypothesis: retroviral molecular markers; transmission electron microscopy (EM) images of retroviral particles; efficacy of anti-retroviral drugs; and epidemiological data.
“Despite three decades of concerted investments in the mainstream hypothesis, the lingering questions and challenges synthesized herein offer public health professionals an opportunity to reflect on their assumptions and practices regarding HIV/AIDS.
“The HIV/AIDS hypothesis is one hell of a mistake”, wrote Kary Mullis in 1996 [(1), p. 14]. Mullis – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry, 1993 – and other distinguished scientists have claimed the HIV-causes-AIDS hypothesis is false, unproductive, and unethical.
“They have done so since 1984, when the hypothesis was proposed. Thirty years after countless studies, resources, and attempts to cure have been poured into the HIV-AIDS hypothesis, it may be fruitful to ask: What happened to those views and voices that once disagreed? Have the past three decades, with their scientific, technological, and public health developments, been sufficient to convince critics of the hypothesis’ value? Have these advances been able to silence the questioning?
“Here, I synthesize the main criticisms aimed at the HIV-AIDS hypothesis, alongside select unorthodox1 theories proposing non-viral cause(s) for AIDS, to argue: far from being condemned to extinction, competing explanations for, and thorough questioning of the mainstream premise persist. Perhaps better known by the lay public than by health professionals, many explanations are, in fact, attracting a growing number of sympathizers. To support the argument, I employ historical research and data synthesis methods. I utilize, as data, trade and professional publications in tandem with authoritative scientific sources.”
http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fpubh.2014.00154/full
@happypappies
Oh, I would love to be a fly on the wall if some of the Gay Celebrationists here had a daughter or granddaughter who brought home a new boy friend who was bi-sexual. I suspect they would NOT be saying, “Oh, I am sooo proud of you for not discriminating against an LGBT person.” More likely, the reality would set in at that point, along with hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth, and the “WTF??? Are you trying to catch AIDS or something???”
The liberals have had things their way for too long, and they still think calling people “racist” or “homophobe” is enough to send people scurrying away in terror. Fat chance!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Squeeky
Come on – tell me – I know that you really love it that all of the Gay people come to Bash you and the Progressives that Hate Gay people but pretend not to 😉 😉 😉
Squeekers
Oh, look he got some figures from Japan. How sweet. Everyone knows all of the Needle people and gay people dying from that immune deficiency disease in the 80s was a figment of everyone’s imagination.
Do you think those Fukushima are as good as some as the ones that sprang up right here in the USA? What about people who had friends and relatives who died from it? Kinda cruel no? Well, then look at the Porno perpetuator of them and trust me, he is a porn king.
@happypappies
A lot of “denialists” follow the same patterns. I saw a lot of this back when I used to engage/debate the two citizen parent Birthers. The tactics are often the same, and you even see it here when you engage with what NickS calls “the cultists.”
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/aids_denialism_vs._science/
Same with the autism vaccine stuff, the way I see it. Sometimes it is difficult to distinguish between skepticism and denialism, but it looks to me like the way a person debates and interacts is the best way.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Squeeky
This poster is just getting warmed up. I watch him and let him know I am. He is now refusing to engage with me when in the beginning you could not shut the profane indignities up that came forth from his mouth. He now is developing a cult and It concerns me whenever he spends too much time on this site.
You saw what happened when I threw the bomb a couple of days ago. It was an ego bomb. lol.
When you have a person with such mixed ideologies as this poster saying that the black man is not getting his civil rights but the Palestinian’s state is occupied and oh, by the way Po, Inga and whomever else was there, don’t talk to happy anymore, you know that there is some serious mind control going on.
Blatant speeches about how unhappy I am and how you and SamFox are the same person and the courting of TJustice and subsequent failure not to mention the constant Herr Schulte and Nicky remarks. Of course this is not to mention the remarks to you regarding your moniker of the Manson girl.
Since he so closely resembles Charles Will Is Mans Son. Himself. 😉 😉 😉
I like your analogies of debate up there and have become that aggravated on this very site I must admit.
Thank you Nick
Squeeks did that old fool up there not realize the professor who covered up for the autism and the slimy genetics professor also
Andrew Jeremy Wakefield (born c. 1957) is a British former surgeon and medical researcher, known for his fraudulent 1998 research paper in support of the now-discredited claim that there was a link between the administration of the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine, and the appearance of autism and bowel disease.[1][2][3][4][5]
After the publication of the paper, other researchers were unable to reproduce Wakefield’s findings or confirm his hypothesis of an association between the MMR vaccine and autism,[6] or autism and gastrointestinal disease.[7] A 2004 investigation by Sunday Times reporter Brian Deer identified undisclosed financial conflicts of interest on Wakefield’s part,[8] and most of his co-authors then withdrew their support for the study’s interpretations.[9] The British General Medical Council (GMC) conducted an inquiry into allegations of misconduct against Wakefield and two former colleagues.[10] The investigation centred on Deer’s numerous findings, including that children with autism were subjected to unnecessary invasive medical procedures,[11] such as colonoscopy and lumbar puncture, and that Wakefield acted without the required ethical approval from an institutional review board.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
On 28 January 2010, a five-member statutory tribunal of the GMC found three dozen charges proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children
This doctor who has promoted the use of a hormone-suppressing drug to treat children with autism was disciplined last week by medical boards in Illinois and Missouri, following similar actions taken in a number of other states.
Dr. Mark Geier, a Maryland geneticist, was featured in a 2009 Tribune investigation into dubious treatments for autism. Experts said Geier’s “Lupron protocol,” which involves injecting children with high doses of a drug sometimes used to chemically castrate sex offenders, was risky and based on junk science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Geier