Two Transportation Security Administration screeners at Denver International airport have been fired after investigators found that a male TSA employee would select handsome men that he wanted to fondle as part of a secondary patdown. Before you give the TSA much credit however you may want to read on.
Accordingly to the reports, the unnamed male TSA screener told a female screen that he liked to grope the genitals of male passengers and that he would alert another screener that the man was a female to cause the scanning machine to indicate an anomaly in the genital area. He would then do a secondary screening and grope the passenger. This appears to have occurred roughly a dozen times.
In December 2013, Jamelyn Steenhoek filed a complaint against TSA screeners at the airport saying the frisking she received at the same Denver airport amounted to a sexual assault, particularly the fondling of her breasts. No charges were filed.
Now here is the rub, both literally and figuratively. The TSA was given an anonymous tip of an employee who was groping passengers for sexual pleasure on Nov. 18, 2014. The tip came from another TSA employee. Yet, it took nearly three months for TSA act. It just left this man in a position to sexually assault passengers.
It is also unclear why this is not a crime. There was no basis for fondling the genitals of these passengers but the TSA employee is not named let alone charged. Presumably, a man walking through the airport fondling people would have faced a bit more of a penalty than just being led out of the airport.
Source: CBS
Well Squeeky, you still haven’t explained how such a far right wing conservative such as yourself would volunteer for the Hillary Clinton campaign and vote for her when she is for every social issue you are against.
“I seriously doubt that he considers the legal recognition of homosexuality to have been rushed.”
Mike, you have avoided the question entirely.
By what right do you oppose unwanted touching?
As you stated, those who spend decades (or even centuries) fighting for the changes understandably find the wait interminable.
You cannot point to norms and traditions with your right hand when you strike them down with your left.
All I can see that you and Inga and Max have done is say,
“Things change. We moved the bar to here. We have no basis for doing so, except that we said so. Our norms are as random as they are rigid. And you’re a bigot for questioning that process.”
@Ingannie
Yes, Ingannie, there are people here who disagree with me. However, they seem to share your habit of not answering questions, dodging issues, and engaging in ad hominem attacks. Like you, they say stuff, but they can’t ever seem to explain stuff.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
“The authoritarians seem applaud or give a pass to police abuse”
In which Inga reverts to straw man mode, making false attributions of conclusions that have never been made.
“…while clutching their pearls and fainting…”
That’s homophobic stereotyping.
@NickS
Well, when 20% of a group (men who have sex with men) are HIV positive, it is kind of just common sense that gayish men have some serious impulse control problems. But, the Ingannie types just luuuvvve studies and things, because it makes them feel so scientific and reasonable, sooo:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1807268/
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Pogo:
Changes in social, cultural, political and legal norms always appear to occur too swiftly in the minds of those who are opposed to them or who have not been paying attention. Those who spend decades (or even centuries) fighting for the changes understandably find the wait interminable.
One of my close friends is a gay man who served as the best man at my wedding in 1968. He was finally able to legally marry his partner of many years two years ago. I seriously doubt that he considers the legal recognition of homosexuality to have been rushed.
Squeeky, if you think your outlook is “normative”, I would bet there are plenty here would disagree. My progeny are an asset to society, I would however worry about you reproducing.
The authoritarians seem applaud or give a pass to police abuse, while clutching their pearls and fainting over this gay TSA agent pervert, groping 12 men. How many thousands of Americans are victims of police abuse yearly?
Squeeky, your authoritarian utopia is already in progress.
Nick:
There is a difference between a pat down and a strip search and cavity inspection. I see no need for routine pat downs to be conducted by persons of the same sex. Of course there is potential for abuse. There is potential for abuse in every activity conducted by humans. However, given the number of people who pass through airport screenings on a daily basis (or courthouses for that matter), the fact that only a few people have violated standards of professionalism convinces me the reaction to the incident in question is a tad overwrought.
http://youtu.be/CgixrRZ-Avg
Here’s a strip search and pat down by male and female officers of the VICTIM of a crime.
@NickS
What Ingannie says in public here, and what Ingannie says and does in real life are probably two way different things. That is why the world that she leaves to her offspring and their offspring will be a far less wonderful place. That is what the Bible means in Numbers 14:18.
This is less a curse upon the third and fourth generations and much more a statement of metaphysical reality. The sins of one generation have results, which play out over time. For example, mommy is a drunk, and drinks way too much. Little Johnny is born with fetal alcohol syndrome and thus when older, only works at menial labor, and is often fired for behavioral issues. But, Little Johnny reproduces, and his kids (the third generation) have a hard life, barely making it through high school. Some of them join the military and get their life together, but some turn out to be super low class individuals, and are are in constant financial and/or criminal problems and thus their kids (the fourth generation) also have problems.
This is gift the Ingannies leave to society on a broader scale to society. Ingannies progeny are the ones who will have to live in a world with less disciplined people, who never got a spanking, and less healthy people because drugs have become acceptable, and who are less likely to be a partner in a stable marriage, because that has become simply one of many life choices, all of which are valued equally at the official level. Plus, the efficacy with which organized religion can positively effect lives will be diminished because the Ingannies got the wrong kind of cookies in vacation bible school, and spend their lives in rebellion against rules and normative behavior.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
@Nick
Re: evasion
Serpentine, Sheldon! Serpentine!!
http://youtu.be/IEzvW5BvY7I
Here’s some male cops strip searching and patting down a female in a cell. Yep, authority figures seem to engage in abuse all too often. Doesn’t matter what their sexual identity is.
Pogo and Squeek, I’m hearing, by the evasion tactics employed here, tacit approval that men should be allowed to routinely frisk women. That old fashioned standard is apparently prudish and archaic.
http://youtu.be/urRrs88Pskk
Here’s one for the guys.
There is potential for abuse even by heterosexual on heterosexual pat downs. Some same sex, same sexual orientation pat downs may not be sexual at all, but a form of debasement, insult and intimidation. There is a potential for abuse in any ‘authority’ and citizen encounter.
We see the same thing in nursing homes where carers abuse the patients.
Mike, I have been in and out of court houses as many times as you. I have NEVER been patted down by a woman. I have been screened by a woman through a metal detector. I have wanded by women if the metal detector buzzed, but I have NEVER been patted down by a woman court security, cop, TSA agent, etc. However, you are being evasive. You do know the standard is men LEO’s are not allowed to frisk women unless it is an emergency situation. Ironically, the first post on this blog where I was verbally assaulted by the old GB crew involved the Florida case of Leila Tarantino, who filed a Federal lawsuit against a Sheriff’s Dept. for being strip searched by male officers. Do you agree that is a good standard? And, if you do, how can you not see there being a potential problem w/ gay men frisking men. You are a smart man. But, you have been infected w/ the PC virus. It eats away @ the logical part of people’s brains. And, let me say again, while I believe there are many men righteous enough to routinely frisk women, I think it’s a logical standard to have that allowed only in emergency situations. And, I know gay male and female law enforcement people who I know are righteous in frisking people of the same sex. But, there is the potential for abuse. We virtually eliminate the potential for abuse by not having men LEO frisk women unless it’s an emergency. This is not an easy problem, unless you evade refuse to acknowledge there is one. Then, it’s easy peasy.
I love watching older movies where you could walk into an airport and buy a one way ticket with cash without ID then board your flight and fly unmolested to your destination.
America, America, where have you gone?
Paul C:
Your brother and sister are onto something.
Now if only the rest of the flying chattel would wake up and smell the tyranny in front of their collective noses we might be able to end the ridiculous TSA security theater at airports.