We have previously discussed the issues surrounding decisions to raise children according to their non-biological sex at a young age. Now, a Massachusetts couple has decided that their five-year-old daughter must be a boy and has decided to raise the child a such. I will readily admit that I am not an expert in this field, but as a parent of four I find such a decision to be highly troubling and premature. A five-year-old child seems far far too early to make such an extreme change. Indeed, this determination was made a year earlier.
The child is now called Jack Lemay rather than Mia Lemay. The change occurred after, at age four, the parents took the child to a family therapy team which concluded that the four-year-old was transgender.
The mother, Mimi, insisted that what she saw as a “psychological burden that I don’t think anyone should have to deal with, especially not my child.” She said that the child began early on saying that she liked boy things and saying that she was a boy. The father, Joe, said that “he was showing real signs of a lot of shame and self-hatred.” Now, as Jacob, they say that the child is thriving.
They are indeed the parents and must act according to their best judgment for their child. However, as a friend, I would have strongly discouraged such a change at such an early age.
What do you think?
Source: CBS
Isaac, Those parents who foist upon their children all the baggage of them wanting their kid, @ age 5, to be an Olympic champ, a Stanley Cup champ, etc. Who “support” them by making them go to the ice @ 4 in the morning instead of just letting them grow up as kids, would pass polygraphs that what they are doing is “supportive.” I didn’t think you would be one of the ones incapable of seeing this very common pathology. I live and learn.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/born-this-way-stories-of-young-transgender-children/
“Born this way: Stories of young transgendered children.
Dr. Olson defined it as “persistent unhappiness, discomfort and distress about the incongruence between the gender that you are assigned, based on your anatomy at birth, versus the way you internally experience gender.
“We also know that among trans people, there are high rates of depression, anxiety, social isolation, [and] suicide attempts. All of these things we see dramatically increased in trans youth. But young people that I’ve seen, who socially transition in childhood and have support of their familes, they have a very different experience.””
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We have a LOT to learn about this issue.
Or even worse yet, a hoser.
It seems that there is this time of life called puberty where sex manifests itself with a vengeance and regardless of what specialists think or say. Physiologically, that would be when to explore the meaning of which sex the child identifies with. The stability of the child and the result of the choice made for them by nature would depend, for the most part, on the support they get from family and friends, not to mention their society of school and other involvements.
It could be worse. The kid could be Muslim.
bam, You could put a freakin’ gun to my head and I would not watch that show. Reality shows are a sure sign of the apocalypse. And, Diane Sawyer is a smarmy, vapid, self absorbed alcoholic. I have seen her shitfaced doing broadcasts, including election night a couple years ago. She has more baggage than that poor, pussy whipped, Jenner.
Squeeky had posted the McHugh interview in a post yesterday; I thought it was appropriate here as well.
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At age 5, an “expert” can diagnose PHYSICAL ailments with some pretty good certainty. But how do they diagnose MENTAL or PSYCHOLOGICAL ailments with any certainty??? In general:
and
More at this link:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/suffer-the-children/201105/six-problems-wih-psychiatric-diagnosis-children
What you are seeing here are the secondary effects of the Gaystapo’s propaganda. What these parents are letting “experts” pontificate about, is the same as the “experts” of a few years ago who convinced kids they had been part of ritual Satanic sexual abuse at various daycares. A bunch of made up crap.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
http://www.today.com/health/experts-answer-questions-about-transgender-kids-t17026
Experts answer questions about transgender kids.
http://tsq.dukejournals.org/content/1/1-2/57.full
“The psychiatrists and physicians who treat these youths and families also seek more secure and reliable mechanisms for determining which children are truly transgender, which will become gay or lesbian, and which may exhibit no gender nonconformity at all later on. Over the last two decades, professionals have developed specialized clinics for treating gender-nonconforming children, and parents and children often submit to a vast battery of tests as a condition of their treatment. An international consortium of gender experts collaborated on producing standardized measures for gender, along with a robust research agenda that includes theorizing the causes, incidence, and developmental trajectories of atypical childhood gender behaviors and identities. It appears that while puberty-blocking hormone therapies offer relief to many children, these and other, newer medical technologies simultaneously exert their own normalizing pressures to order, taxonomize, and measure gender transgressions.”
“324 sex-reassigned persons (191 male-to-females, 133 female-to-males) in Sweden, 1973–2003. “
“Recent studies have demonstrated that the earlier child transitions the more well adjusted he or she will be as an adult.”
Did those studies compare earlier transitions to those who received birth-gender training?
Have the studies compared aggressive ‘transitioning’ with aggressive reorienting?
Why not? (Because I know the answer is no.)
This Swedish study supports McHugh:
Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden
https://nwhn.org/transgender-youth-providing-medical-treatment-misunderstood-population
“Although it is unknown how many children and teens are truly transgender, medical professionals and others who care for children are finally paying attention to this minority group. Doctors in the United States, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and elsewhere in Europe now agree that early treatment of transgender children can change — and even save — lives. In order to understand what kinds of treatments are needed for transgender children and youth, it is important to understand what a transgender child is, what treatments are available, and how these treatments can help.
One of the challenges for parents and caregivers alike there is no way to be 100 percent sure that a child is truly transgender. There is no test to determine if a child who insists over time that he or she is not the gender assigned to them at birth is going to feel the same way as an adult. But, the overwhelming majority of transgender adults report that they knew that they were transgender from the time they were children. The longer a cross-gender identification “phase” persists, the less likely it is to be a phase. So, parents and clinicians alike rely on a combination of the child’s experience, the parents’ perspectives, the longevity of the gender variance, and psychological assessment to determine if, and when, it is time to validate a child’s experience of their own gender with medical intervention. One California parent describes their experience, saying: “We had always allowed our daughter to express herself in the ways that felt right for her. When she was young – two years old — and told us she was a boy, we naturally assumed this was a phase. At first we neither encouraged it nor discouraged it. We essentially ignored it. However, this phase has yet to end! It has been eight years now. After a while, we no longer ignored it and, with the help of a therapist, we allowed our child to change pronouns and live as a boy starting in kindergarten. He is now half way through fifth grade. Our son has always been our son- it just took us a few years to understand this. We fully support him and will whatever it takes for him to live a happy and successful life.””
But, we see those 5 year old girls spending 10 hours in the gym to be Olympic gymnasts, their mommies dream. How many of those 5 year olds should have that foisted upon them??
David Cary Hart,
Yes anything that comes from this person will undoubtedly be very much skewed toward conservative and religionist.
Unless that child didn’t need to be transitioned, then there are serious psych issues for a lifetime. 5 years old is too freakin’ young!!
Tune in tonight, ABC, to the new face of transgender, Bruce Jenner. Mr. Wheaties, former Olympian, in all his glory, talking about transitioning. Guess he had to wade through three marriages and fathering six kids to finally arrive at the conclusion, at age 65, no less, that he needed to change his gender.
I blame in on the Kardashians. Living with that bunch of baboons finally made him crack. Only a matter of time.
Anyone want to come over? I’m making popcorn for this one.
Pogo: Paul R. McHugh is first, and foremost, a Defender of the Faith™. Seriously, he blogs at Witherspoon which is an Opus Dei org. The Church says that transgender people do not exist. McHugh accepts that over any medical erudition. Moreover, he is in a very small professional minority.
Recent studies have demonstrated that the earlier child transitions the more well adjusted he or she will be as an adult.
Mashco Piro isolated Indian tribe might hold clue. At the 4:03 mark, teenager askes
older warrior question. And finger points saying “wantontaton”. Teenager says “oh” in shock. No LBGT down here. Just 6 foot arrows ready to fire at intruders.
David, Indeed, DBQ nailed it w/ just ONE comment. Having been a teacher and coach, it is not surprising to me that some folks here are clueless that a parent can love their child deeply but still foist upon them their own baggage. I coached baseball for 30 years. I coached some real good players. One of the BEST players was a girl tomboy who wore short hair, had a name that could be male or female, and looked like a boy. She had older brothers who played baseball, but none were as good as her. This kid didn’t want to play girls softball, she wanted to play the REAL game of baseball. She had loving parents who allowed her to be who she was. She is now a beautiful young woman. I also coached many boys whose parents thought their kid was their meal ticket, scholarships to college and maybe MLB players. Well, I coached several kids who got Division 1 baseball scholarships but none good enough to play professionally. I was so touched when one kid asked me to be @ his university letter of intent signing. Anyway, parents put so much pressure on kids that they don’t deserve. I coached boys who did not even want to play baseball, but did so to please their father. Folks who seem clueless about this very common pathology, and are unwilling to accept that may be what is going on here, may have a lotta baggage themselves. You can love your child TO DEATH sometimes. Just sayn’.
Gary, I can agree with you that it may be too soon to assign a gender to the child who is gender dysmorphic, but I think these parents are sincerely thing to help mitigate the trauma if indeed the child is gender dismorphic as opposed to going through a phase. I hope they don’t create trauma if the child is just going through a phase. I suppose that is where the group of psychiatrists and psychologists come in. I don’t know what I would do in these parents’ shoes, but I won’t place judgment on them.