It is common to get advice like “never look a polar bear in the eye.” The same appears to be true with Dayton police officers. Driver John Felton has posted a video of a pull over by a police officer who told him that he was pulled over because he “made direct eye contact” with him while driving by.
The officer remains polite in the video tape below but he admits near the end that he followed the driver (who is clearly upset) “Because you made direct eye contact with me and held onto it when I was passing you.”
The officer handed John Felton a warning for a traffic signal violation. Felton had to sit on the roadside after being following by the officer for some time.
The city arranged for Felton to have a conversation with the officer, facilitated by the Dayton Mediation Center. Felton, who has retained a lawyer, says that he was stopped because of his Michigan plates even though he grew up in the area.
The traffic violation of not signaling more than 100 feet before making a turn is something that most drivers have done repeatedly.
When Felton objected to the concept of suspicious eye contact, the officer said “I am not going to argue about it anymore with you, sir. I’ll just scan your license and give you a citation for the violation, and you could take it to court.”
Here is the video:
Source: CNN
http://youtu.be/moeIv4glE5k
By the way, in case you have missed anon’s link about cops shooting a man with his hands up, here it is again:
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anon
1, September 1, 2015 at 5:48 pm
“Video Appears To Show Man With Hands Up Gunned Down By Texas Cops”
“I’ve been in this position for 14 years, and I’ve never seen anything like it.” -Nelson Wolff, county judge
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hands-up-killed-texas-cops_55e5b650e4b0b7a9633a3094
From the article:
“He kind of just put his hands in the air,” Thomas told the station. “After he put his hands in the air, they shot him.”
“It’s very shocking and looks very bad,” Nelson Wolff, the county judge, told The New York Times. “I’ve been in this position for 14 years, and I’ve never seen anything like it.”
Nick, please take your advice and ignore me. It would better for you in the long run.
I am the troll and yet you are the one who tracks my moves and know which blogs I frequent????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DBQ, again, you are speaking from the comfortable chair of white privilege.
1- Cops are not doing it for free. No one is forcing them to become cops. They chose a path not out of sainthood but because it is a job like any other job. They know the costs of it going it. They are paid for it, empowered, respected and deputized. That’s why they are trained and equipped with guns.
2- White people may have a community where they can work together with cops to police their areas. Most blacks are treated like suspects from the get go. Cops show up in their neighborhoods as invaders and plantation overseers. When from a young age any interaction with a cop is one where they try to emasculate you, show you you are nothing, mistreat you every chance they get, put you face down on the pavement on a whim, asking you work together with the cops is ridiculous and downright ignorant.
po – I have worked with inner city kids a great share of my life and have lived in the inner city. I have never had the cops give my kids a bad time, even when they arrested them. They were pretty nice about it. Life is not perfect. Where I live now is not the inner city and we pay more to have more cops. Response time is very fast. Town government takes a survey every year to see how they are doing. They fix things right away.
Yes, Nick, one befitting all of that purported logic and intelligence. LOL!
“Video Appears To Show Man With Hands Up Gunned Down By Texas Cops”
“I’ve been in this position for 14 years, and I’ve never seen anything like it.” -Nelson Wolff, county judge
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hands-up-killed-texas-cops_55e5b650e4b0b7a9633a3094
From the article:
“He kind of just put his hands in the air,” Thomas told the station. “After he put his hands in the air, they shot him.”
“It’s very shocking and looks very bad,” Nelson Wolff, the county judge, told The New York Times. “I’ve been in this position for 14 years, and I’ve never seen anything like it.”
Nick
Have you ever noticed that those on here who have managed flee and escape their countries of origin–desperately seeking to live and wallow in the West–taking full advantage of the benefits and qualities which are so lacking in their previous despotic hellholes–jump at any possible chance to criticize a system which is light years ahead of their former homes? These perpetual malcontents won’t be happy until the US has been dragged to the level of their previous countries, where the respect for law and order is non-existent.
Isaac, Good comments.
In that Jake Tapper report a police chief and an Obama Administration lackey said the reason murders are up are because of guns. You know, those magic guns that don’t have angry, evil, hating men pulling the trigger. That magic gun that killed Daron Goforth went off 15 times. Damn, that’s some magic gun.
Oh, another cop outside Chicago was just murdered. Pig probably had it coming. “Pigs in a blanket, fry the bacon!” The Black Lives Matter chant.
Murders are up this year from 20% in Chicago to 56% in St. Louis to over 60% in DC. I got this from a good report from Jake Tapper today. A Baltimore cop explained it simply. Cops are under siege. So, they’re backing off. They’re not rousting bad guys. They’re not stopping guys who are suspicious. They respond to 911 calls but are not being proactive. Cops in NYC have said the same thing as this Baltimore cop. They do not want to be second guessed by people like the cop haters here. And, most of these additional victims are black/males, killed by other black/males. “Be careful what you wish for” cop haters.
The cop didn’t pull the guy over for looking him in the eye. He pulled him over for a minor infraction. The cop was succumbing to today’s conditions. He screwed up by giving the guy a ticket and not beginning with an explanation and a warning. I have been pulled over and given warnings for stuff like this. I have been followed, sometimes pulled over, sometimes not. I am white.
Profiling is the result of statistical reasoning feeding racist tendencies or not. The cop is deficient in giving the guy a ticket and not a warning. The Black guy was defensive. It must be next to if not impossible to not be defensive if you are Black and are pulled over by a cop.
The question is should the cop have ignored his instincts and not have followed the car or have started with ‘I’m only going to give you a warning this time…’?
we pay for police forces because most of us believe they are esssential to an ordered society.
@ blhlls
I agree that a police/constabulary is essential to an ordered society.
HOWEVER, I will assert that it is a two way street in that the community needs to be working with the police as a joint effort to reach that ordered society. You need both an effective and honest police force AND a community that will respect the police as well as assist them. After all if you live in the town or neighborhood you have a personal vested interest in maintaining law and order.
The police put themselves in danger, mortal danger, every single da*mned day. They do this in spite of a lack of support from the community and even in the face of purposeful harm from those in the community.
The police are not pinatas for political points. They are not obligated to commit suicide on the behalf of people who won’t help themselves or those who mean them harm.
Are there bad police. Duh. There are bad people everywhere. The organizations of the police departments need to weed out the bad and obviously unfit. Are there good police who make some bad instantaneous, split second decisions. Yes. YOU try to be a cop in those situations. Good cops who make some mistakes are not the same as the corrupt or bad apples.
Are there bad apples out there in the community? DUH again. This is why we have the police to protect the public. BUT……it can’t be just the police. It has to be a joint effort. If the GOOD people of the community want to have that orderly society, they need to help and stand up for that orderly society instead of aiding and abetting the evil doers buy their actions or more often their own inaction. They don’t want to get involved. They want someone ELSE to lay their life on the line for their own sorry butts.
The police are already slowing down, backing off on responding to calls, refusing to go without massive backup. [The Ferguson Effect] The police aren’t stupid nor are they suicidal.
Yes. They should take off for a month and see how the “good” people like the resulting chaos. Perhaps that will get the ‘good’ people off of their butts and involved in their communities.
Repeat. The police are not obligated to commit suicide for people who do not appreciate their efforts and who denigrate them at all turns.
If the people don’t like it…..they need to remember that they are the ones who have created and allowed this type of degenerate society.
The traffic law requiring a driver to signal 100 feet before making a turn is an example of over-regulation having no bearing on public safety the only purpose of which is revenue generation, harassment, and/or an excuse for detaining otherwise lawful citizens.
Bam, come back with something stronger…my logic stands out against your ranting…try again!
Well said, blhlls!
Why is it that the only options available to us are the extremes ones? Either abuse the citizenry or don’t do your job?
What about the one in between, do your job but do it in a way so as to respect the rights of the citizenry!!
The cops are armed with badges, guns, authority, backup and the full might of the judicial system, and yet they get the benefit of the doubt when blatantly abusing the rights of the citizens?!
If you are siding with the cops simply because the victim is black, wait till you are the one victimized, or your kid or relative. It is unavoidable.
http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/08/police-mans-home-without-a-warrant/
DBQ, we pay for police forces because most of us believe they are esssential to an ordered society. It is not a choice between a force which permits the “bad apples” to commit misconduct with impunity or no police force at all. A professional police force which is seen to enforce standards of conduct, get rid of those “bad apples” we keep hearing about (and officers who cover for them are equally “bad apples”), and acts in a way that members of the public who come into contact with officers believe that their goal is “to protect and serve” is an option if we will put the work into it that’s required.
Great post
The Science Geek
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Another police officer shot and killed, this time in Illinois.
The police, especially in the large blue controlled cities, should just take a month off and let the people see how well they like their lives without the police. It would be chaos. However, maybe then some of the more upstanding and law abiding citizens will do something about those in their own community who are the bad actors, the criminals and who are creating the unsavory conditions.
If the police/sheriffs took off a month here, it wouldn’t be very noticeable but in the inner cities and the areas where the black lives matter morons are, it would be a very big difference.
I would applaud the police if they did this.
Hey, Mr. Logic and Intelligence! What part of YOU FAILED TO SIGNAL A TURN MORE THAN 100 FEET PRIOR TO THAT TURN did that advanced mind of yours miss? Listen to the video. You may learn something, for a change.
Sorry plato, missed your post, exactly!