The lawyer for Kentucky clerk Kim Davis has stated that she met with Pope Francis during the pontiff’s visit to Washington D.C. last week and received encouragement from him in the meeting. It is a surprising disclosure, if true, but Attorney Mat Staver of the Liberty Counsel insists that the Pope spoke to Davis and her husband in English and said “Thank you for your courage” and told her to “stay strong.”
The Vatican is mum on the alleged meeting or who was present on September 24 at the Apostolic Nunciature in Washington. That was the same day that he had spoken to Congress.
That adds an interesting political wrinkle for Democrats who generally love (as do I) this Pope for his views on climate change, poverty, and other issues. The Pope however also spoke against abortion and does not support same-sex marriage. If he also supports Davis, it can create some difficult issues with the party line on the Clerk. After all, as we discussed today, you have one Democrat who reveres the Pope so much that he is actually dispensing the Pope’s drinking water to family from the glass used during his speech before Congress.
Of course, there is no reason why either Republicans and Democrats cannot still oppose the position of Davis even if (and that is still an “if”) the Pope supports her position. After all, many support the right to choose even when they are personally against abortion and remain practicing Catholics. Yet, it is intriguing that this is one of the people that the Pope would choose to meet if the account is correct.
I am surprised if the Vatican agreed to this meeting. Even the people on rope lines are often screened for the Pope though he is known to plunge into crowds. If this was a truly arranged “meeting,” it is pretty significant that Davis would be selected for such a meeting and encouragement. Politicians like Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz have been criticized for their support of Davis, who asserts the right to impose her religious views of the legitimacy of a marriage before performing her purely ministerial functions. Reporters have been trying to get the Vatican to confirm whether the Pope has added his voice of support.
Of course, the Vatican could spin the meeting as support for someone following her faith rather than endorsing her legal position. Nevertheless, the alleged meeting may be the most surprising in this even-filled Papal visit.
Max, if PP selling baby parts doesn’t make you uncomfortable, just say so.
No point dissembling about the videos.
Just say that you affirm the right of PP to cut babies up for sale, even if they are born alive.
Don’t be shy.
Democrats and liberals are able to support the Pope for his views that agree with theirs, such as Capitalism and Climate Change, while at the same time respect that he is still a Catholic. I never expected him to change his views on abortion or same sex marriage. The thing that surprised me more in the meeting with Kim Davis is that as a fundamentalist religion, the Apostolic Church considers Catholics “idolaters”. The roseries he gave her and her husband, they won’t keep. They gave the roseries to their parents who are Catholic.
Is the Pope a Catholic? Yes.
Olly
When Kimmy D appeared at the Values Voters convention last weekend, tell me that wasn’t about her role as County Clerk.
Barking
She believes in the lard…
Jesus spoke:
Matt 23: 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Fatso! Call her Fatso!
What kind of people call her Fatso?
Fat kids, skinny kids,
Kids who climb on rocks.
Limp wimps crippled pimps..
Even pimps with chicken pox .. say Fatso!
Annie,
It’s like Chuck Todd this last weekend letting Carly slide and double down on that dead baby video…
… Lexi’s FaceBook comments have been available and widely circulated ell before last weekend.
Chuck Todd isn’t a journalist, though. He’s not even an investigative reporter.
He’s a tool.
Any good journalist does their homework about their subject.
Good thing JT isn’t a journalist then, eh?
Max,
Maybe JT didn’t hear the news about her changing Party affiliation?
ike
“Why try to pick a fight over this?”
= = =
Because in America, Religion has become political.
The wall of separation has been chipped away by lawyers looking for a free ride.
I wish Jon would write about that wall…
… Instead, opining about those holes in that wall.
Mike,
It feeds the thirst that this blog needs to stay relevant.
Annie,
She is out of her Republican closet.
The Pope stands next to her.
Standing against the Pope is the GOP.
Yet, Turley pens about how the Dems are in a quandary…
So the GOP now embraces Kim and the Pope’s stance on poverty and GCC and death penalty?
Get real, Jon.
Professor Turley wrote:
“If he also supports Davis, it can create some difficult issues with the party line on the Clerk.”
Huh?
I’m pretty sure Democrats understand that the Pope is, was, and will be firmly against abortion and contraception. This difference of opinion and faith and law did not prevent Democrats from offering the Pope a warm welcome and respect.
I am a Democrat, a liberal, a progressive. I have no problem with the Pope visiting with Kim Davis nor with his joyous visit to the United States. It didn’t look as if Obama did either.
Why try to pick a fight over this?
Max,
Democrats are free of Kim Davis, free at last, hallelujah, free at last!
KCF
Caly’s claims about fetus’ on films are made up. Period.
Even the mother of one of the babies has come forward and admitted that the film is NOT a PP film.
Yet, Carly get’s to claim it as such on live TV.
So, who’s lying? Carly or the mother, Lexi?
Your welcome Max. Likewise.
Olly,
My question stands unanswered.
Thanks for playing.
In which Max decries a perk limited only to Democrats, such as the women paid by Planned Parenthood to throw condoms at Carly Fiorina.
“Planned Parenthood. They have a great travel budget and offered her 1st class.”
Maybe Kim should’ve taken advantage of PP’s family planning services and used birth control when she was cheating on her husband and got pregnant with her twins.
Max,
Was it Kim Davis meeting with the Pope or a County Clerk? Are you opposed to citizens receiving gifts of $25?