Oberlin President Rejects List of Rambling Demands From Black Students

krislov-marvinFormal_Seal_of_Oberlin_College,_Oberlin,_OH,_USA.svgWe have been reporting on the protests occurring on college campuses and the troubling demands sometimes made by the “Black Lives Matter” movement in terms of academic components and programs, including college newspapers. Oberlin College President Marvin Krislov finally had enough after receiving a list of rambling demands from black students — demands declared to be nonnegotiable for the Administration. Krislov correctly refused to concede core control over the academic mission and yield to such demands which included things like the firing of certain employees and enrolling recently released prisoners.

While saying that some of the demands may raise compelling ideas, he would “not respond directly to any document that explicitly rejects the notion of collaborative engagement. Many of its demands contravene principles of shared governance. And it contains personal attacks on a number of faculty and staff members who are dedicated and valued members of this community.” Bravo.

The 14-page list of demands contains rambling and ridiculous demands. It can be seen here. This includes the demand for instant tenure for named academics — a decision that must be based on peer review of their publications and teaching — not by plebiscite. It also contains a list of academics and administrators to be fired immediately.

It further states:

Oberlin College and Conservatory is an unethical institution. From capitalizing on massive labor exploitation across campus, to the Conservatory of Music treating Black and other students of color as less than through its everyday running, Oberlin College unapologetically acts as unethical institution, antithetical to its historical vision. In the 1830s, this school claimed a legacy of supporting its Black students. However, that legacy has amounted to nothing more than a public relations campaign initiated to benefit the image of the institution and not the Africana people it was set out for … [T]his institution functions on the premises of imperialism, white supremacy, capitalism, ableism, and a cissexist heteropatriarchy. Oberlin College and Conservatory uses the limited number of Black and Brown students to color in its brochures, but then erases us from student life on this campus. You profit off of our accomplishments and invisible labor, yet You expect us to produce personal solutions to institutional incompetencies. We as a College-defined “high risk,” “low income,” “disadvantaged” community should not have to carry the burden of deconstructing the white supremacist, patriarchal, capitalist system that we took no part in creating, yet is so deeply embedded in the soil upon which this institution was built.

Krylov however appeared to agree that the college has racist problems: “We are not where we want to be. So we must commit ourselves to deep study of how systemic barriers persist at Oberlin.”

That will obviously not satisfy the students who expressly warned that they have provided “demands and not suggestions. If these demands are not taken seriously, immediate action from the Africana community will follow.”

Source: PBS

40 thoughts on “Oberlin President Rejects List of Rambling Demands From Black Students

  1. Karen

    Is that a pipe in my pocket or am I armed? If an armed group takes over a government or any facility and then says that they are under their rule, from their god, and yet if they do not kill anyone; then is this terrorism. Does someone have to get killed in a bank robbery for it to be a bank robbery?

    The domestic terrorists in Oregon represent that gray area of America where rule of law by consensus of all comes into conflict with rule of law by consensus of a few. The hypocrisy lies in the fact that these domestic terrorists are masquerading as Americans and not robbing a bank as perhaps, other than Americans.

  2. Isaac:

    “Is that a pipe in my pocket or am I armed? If an armed group takes over a government or any facility and then says that they are under their rule, from their god, and yet if they do not kill anyone; then is this terrorism. Does someone have to get killed in a bank robbery for it to be a bank robbery?”

    If what they are doing is acts “dangerous to human life” and intend to “influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion or affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping” then by the definition of the FBI they are terrorists.

    Whether someone is armed or not, if they steal from a bank it’s bank robbery. To be armed robbery they have to be armed.

    Occupy Wallstreet used intimidation and coercion, but the threat was to shut down businesses, not kill everyone. The letter to the Oberlin Admin contained a threat, but they did not specify violence, so they are not terrorists. There are sometimes 2nd Amendment demonstrations where people protest wearing their firearms. But if it is an open carry state and they are not threatening to kill everyone, then it’s just a protest.

    I do not know if the Occupy Oregon (or whatever they’re calling it) are threatening to kill anyone if they don’t get their demands met. If so, then by definition they are domestic terrorists. If an armed group takes over a government then that is a coup. I also do not know if Oregon is an open carry state, or what firearms laws they may have broken. I’m pressed for time this morning.

    As I said, I have not read up on this and so do not know if they are threatening violence if they don’t get their way.

  3. This is what I found:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/armed-group-refusing-leave-oregon-wildlife-refuge-sheriff-n493261

    “On Wednesday Ward said at a community meeting that the armed group should go home, and took exception to the fact that the occupiers are from outside of the area. He said they “hijacked” the protest over the ranchers.

    “You don’t to come here from elsewhere and tell us how we’re going to live our lives,” Ward said.”

    It sounds like they’ve taken over or interfered with a local protest over the imprisonment of ranchers for burning government land.

    This started over a legitimate protest against government land snatching, the deliberate flooding of ranchers’ property, and the mismanagement of a wildlife refuge. (You will recall that I’ve spoken before about lack of accountability and need for reform in various government environmental agencies. There needs to be a partnership rather than an adversarial relationship between landowners and environmental agencies.)

    The Bundys’ taking over of this protest may have completely ruined it for the locals who are actually affected.

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/

  4. Karen S. I’m very glad that you’re interested in researching the situation in Oregon. It’s absolutely critical that we get to the truth. As the saying goes; follow the money.

    Clinton Foundation took massive payoffs, promised Hammond Ranch and other publicly owned lands to Russian’s along with one-fifth of our uranium ore
    https://jhaines6a.wordpress.com/2016/01/23/clinton-foundation-took-massive-payoffs-promised-hammond-ranch-and-other-publicly-owned-lands-to-russians-along-with-one-fifth-of-our-uranium-ore/

  5. issacbasonkavichi; There you go again, getting all your information from ONE side of the story. Unfortunately your ‘method’ of forming an opinion is all too common; parroting Regressive Democrat talking points gleaned from the sewer main known as main stream media. Do you even know how to think for yourself? The answer is painfully obvious….

  6. Black Lies Matter

    1. “I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their

    character.”

    2. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,…” means exceptional and

    superior consideration and treatment shall be provided based on pigmentation.

    3. Affirmative action is constitutional.

    4. Welfare is constitutional.

    5. Forced busing is constitutional.

    6. Obamacare is constitutional.

    7. “Multiculturalism” contributed to American success and greatness.

    8. Hands up, don’t shoot.

    9. O.J. Simpson is innocent.

    10. Bill Cosby is innocent.

    11. Tawana Brawley was raped.

    etc.

  7. Oberlin’s President may be whistling past the graveyard but at least he’s whistling.

    Perhaps a new “Politically Correct” dictionary needs to be compiled to disarm the BLM and other social justice movements.

    Perhaps being called a Racist takes on a new meaning, such as “an individual that opposes policies that have proven to harm rather help minorities.”

    Then, when someone calls you a racist you point to this alternative definition and tell them thank you.

  8. Maplady is to be commended. The Cleveland Plain Dealer article provides very valuable context on the protests. I urge everyone to read it. It is unfortunate that Professor Turley so often omits important elements of stories and there should have been many here who asked themselves what prompted these actions. Don’t be afraid to use Google, people. Take the risk to be better informed.

    I think the President of Oberlin acted most appropriately and the students should be embarrassed.

  9. I doubt seriously if the “students” in military basic training would have long behaved this way. It’s that pesky old “discipline” thing. Why are “students” in an academic setting indulged and enabled?

    “Follow the money,” you say? What did the parents pay for; a party, revolution? Parents can’t give their children a car to drive while intoxicated. Parents should not be allowed to give their children a university to drive while intoxicated. The culprits are the parents.

    Children who behave in this undisciplined, egocentric manner should be admonished, chastised then disinherited. They should be made to experience the full weight of nature – poverty teaches well. Agitation, chaos, slothfulness, indulgence and decadence are not the right lessons to learn.

    By definition, students are uninformed, naïve and uneducated. They are in school to learn, not teach. They are in school to follow, not lead.

    Shut up and learn!

    Violations of law must be prosecuted to the fullest extent.

    Parents must not maliciously matriculate their children with impunity.

  10. To castigate the President of this school and not remark on the idiotic and poorly worded manifesto shows either the author is idiotic, a blind partisan, or likely a toxic combo.

  11. Paul

    The occupation of Alcatraz was one of hundreds of protests in its time demanding equal rights, government guarantees, government treaties be honored, etc. Regardless of whether most of the city of San Francisco was on the side of the Indians-the longshoremen’s union threatened to close down the port if the government took action, the fact that the protesters were armed and eventually, having been reduced to just over a dozen, presented themselves armed to the Coast Guard, the armed insurrection was illegal and only the problems it represented and the fact that the isolation of the site prevented any threats to the general population the act of bearing arms against one’s government comes into play. Both are of the same ilk and wrong.

    However, the Oregon issues present a somewhat more isolated problem. The belligerents are holding the site, through threat of violence, armed to the teeth, for commercial issues. They want the land on their terms to graze cattle and make money. Aside from the vast differences between the times and the events, both groups, having taken by arms public properties should be either refused the privilege or right to bear arms or at the very least be placed on a list and scrutinized.

    Nothing is purely black or white as religious adherents of sacred texts would like. The domestic terrorists in Oregon have displayed the ability to take over large areas of the West, set up road blocks and intimidate citizens. They reference their own peculiar interpretation of some god as giving them the right to make unilateral decisions. It took over a year and a half to resolve Alcatraz and the government won. The people won. There should be no reason to wait that long here.

    The main difference in this gray matter is that the Indians who occupied Alcatraz, although breaking the law, did so at a time and for reasons that the majority of Americans agreed with. This latest expression of ‘rights’ is something that is unique to some ranchers/not all ranchers, has next to nothing to do with the shortcomings of the United States and its citizens, and if allowed to work in the favor of these nut case domestic John Wayne terrorists, will only encourage even more traitorous acts.

    The Indian issues were and remain far, far, far, more relevant and in need of repair. This is nothing more that a very few nut jobs interpreting what America means. Take them down, lock them up, and list them as not to be permitted to bear arms. If that means a half dozen Indians who were at Alcatraz don’t get guns to play with then so be it. If the 2nd amendment is so sacrosanct then it must be treated so. These domestic terrorists all but cr*p on it.

  12. Nat King Cole:

    Ramblin’ rose, ramblin’ rose
    Why you ramble, no one knows
    Wild and wind blown, that’s how you’ve grown
    Who can cling to a ramblin’ rose?

    Ramble on, ramble on
    When your ramblin’ days are gone
    Who will love you with a love true
    When your ramblin’ days are gone?

    Ramblin’ rose, ramblin’ rose
    Why I want you, heaven knows
    Though I love you with a love true
    Who can cling to a ramblin’ rose?

    Ramblin’ rose, ramblin’ rose
    Why I want you, heaven knows
    Though I love you with a love true
    Who can cling to a ramblin’ rose?

    Songwriters
    JOE SHERMAN, NOEL SHERMAN

  13. @issacbasonkavichi: Have you EVER looked into the other side of the Oregon standoff? I mean EVER? I’ve posted articles, videos, etc. and you’re obviously ignoring the other side of the story. The militia in Oregon is trying to save your as* and everyone’s a*s from this encroaching governmental tyranny and you don’t get it. The media has you convinced that those who are your enemy are your friends, and your friends are your enemy. It’s that simple. I hate to see people so duped.

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