We have been reporting on the protests occurring on college campuses and the troubling demands sometimes made by the “Black Lives Matter” movement in terms of academic components and programs, including college newspapers. Oberlin College President Marvin Krislov finally had enough after receiving a list of rambling demands from black students — demands declared to be nonnegotiable for the Administration. Krislov correctly refused to concede core control over the academic mission and yield to such demands which included things like the firing of certain employees and enrolling recently released prisoners.
While saying that some of the demands may raise compelling ideas, he would “not respond directly to any document that explicitly rejects the notion of collaborative engagement. Many of its demands contravene principles of shared governance. And it contains personal attacks on a number of faculty and staff members who are dedicated and valued members of this community.” Bravo.
The 14-page list of demands contains rambling and ridiculous demands. It can be seen here. This includes the demand for instant tenure for named academics — a decision that must be based on peer review of their publications and teaching — not by plebiscite. It also contains a list of academics and administrators to be fired immediately.
It further states:
Oberlin College and Conservatory is an unethical institution. From capitalizing on massive labor exploitation across campus, to the Conservatory of Music treating Black and other students of color as less than through its everyday running, Oberlin College unapologetically acts as unethical institution, antithetical to its historical vision. In the 1830s, this school claimed a legacy of supporting its Black students. However, that legacy has amounted to nothing more than a public relations campaign initiated to benefit the image of the institution and not the Africana people it was set out for … [T]his institution functions on the premises of imperialism, white supremacy, capitalism, ableism, and a cissexist heteropatriarchy. Oberlin College and Conservatory uses the limited number of Black and Brown students to color in its brochures, but then erases us from student life on this campus. You profit off of our accomplishments and invisible labor, yet You expect us to produce personal solutions to institutional incompetencies. We as a College-defined “high risk,” “low income,” “disadvantaged” community should not have to carry the burden of deconstructing the white supremacist, patriarchal, capitalist system that we took no part in creating, yet is so deeply embedded in the soil upon which this institution was built.
Krylov however appeared to agree that the college has racist problems: “We are not where we want to be. So we must commit ourselves to deep study of how systemic barriers persist at Oberlin.”
That will obviously not satisfy the students who expressly warned that they have provided “demands and not suggestions. If these demands are not taken seriously, immediate action from the Africana community will follow.”
Source: PBS
Occupy Wall Street…Occupy Oregon…looting and riots after Brown…threats against Oberlin.
Small groups of people trying to force their ways on others in defiance of a democracy.
Isaac – the definition of terrorism is using violence and terror to force a government to do what you want, either foreign or domestic. I believe that actual murder or attempted murder or injury has to occur in order to meet the definition. To be honest, I have not taken the time to read much about the state park takeover. Of course as a conservationist and environmentalist I vehemently oppose private parties trying to usurp public land without going through the process to try to obtain it legally. I also object to perma-protests like Occupy Anything. Have your sit in or protest and then go home. Rinse and repeat. And don’t prevent people from running businesses or enjoying public space so you can have your say.
If the group engages in violence or tries to in order to coerce the government to give them what they want, then, yes, they are domestic terrorists. Planning or trying to blow up a building would be an example. Shooting up a mall or planning to do so to get what you want would be another example. From what little I know, this group has violated a series of laws. I am not aware of any violence attempted or planned, however. But I may read more that may change my opinion. If they break any laws that make them felons then, no, they will no longer have the right to bear arms.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition
Oberlin College are 72% white, 7% Hispanic, 5% Black and 4% Asian and students come mainly from California, Illinois, Massachusetts, and New York and the faculty diversity equals the student racial proportions.
Of all students enrolled, 87% is progressive liberal and 13% liberal and 50% do not affiliate with any religion and 100% are accepting of the LBGT community. 71% is accepting of students who falls into the ethnic, sexual or religious minority. 3% say the campus is split on its acceptance on minority groups.
Some student reviews state mainly that Republican/Conservative/Christian views are not tolerated on this campus. Some state the majority of the students are rude. Some students claim that Oberlin is very accepting of minorities with many organizations designed to make people with varying beliefs and lifestyles feel comfortable.
Oberlin College was the very first college to accept black Americans and the college offers a wide variety of cultural awareness classes, promotes it and the theme of campus life. Most claim there is a segregation of race amongst their groups by race.
These stats came from colleges.niche.com and gives Oberlin College an “A” rating. Yet the 5% black student population insist on the majority of other students and faculty meet their demands. They are a minority who demand majority status.
This college’s liberal, atheist, non-Republican Christian school helped create this monster called Black Lives Matter aka The New KKK group that are acting like a bunch of spoiled brats whom are throwing a fit because they want to make the whole faculty & student population follow the minority rules and demands.
Wilberforce University is 95% black and 1% white and rated B- in diversity with 20% of the student population claiming it’s hard to be a minority at this school.
Yet 0% of student population at Oberlin college claim it’s hard to be a minority, which is rated an A in diversity. So what race isn’t very accepting of other races here?
The Oberlin President has to stand up and be counted. In response to their demands (if I were hime) I would hire a special needs tutor to give them some education about how to read and write on a fourth grade level. After all, they are in college. I would ask them the Saint Louis Question: Where did you go to high school? Then I would not accept an applicant from that high school in the future. As to the male demanders I would tell them to “pull out now like your fathers should have.” I would quit the Oberlin job and go find a job at a bank or something.
An alien should not have the right to bear arms (i.e. gun powder fired weapons). Oh, if they are crippled and need a left arm or right arm that is one thing. But no weapons for aliens. Aliens includes those who are not citizens as well as that guy from Remulak. But this dog is on the “gun side”. My “minerals” tell me that no friggin muslim should be allowed to have a friggin gun. Nor be around a bear, whether it be grizzily or black bear. And black bears matter.
Religious fanatics: they need to be home schooled.
Domestic terrorism: when the maid dumps poop on the un-made bed.
Another perspective on demand number 7 of the Oberlin manifest
http://www.cleveland.com/morris/index.ssf/2016/01/some_oberlin_student_demands_a.html
Okay these are paying students. Just take your money elsewhere if you’re not happy. If a establishment treats me badly I never go back, I spend my money elsewhere. I suggest these students do the same. These are just cry babies looking for their 15 minutes. They need to be told – and in this case they were – you’re out of line.
Jeff Field
Now that you bring up Bundy here are some questions for the NRA and gun advocates.
-Does taking over a government facility by armed force constitute domestic terrorism?
-Should the rights of all citizens override the desires and intentions of special interests when it comes to government provided facilities or services?
-Should the government protect its citizens from marauding and armed groups who inflict their peculiar desires and demands on society in general?
-Does allowing domestic terrorists the freedom to occupy by force public lands demand a response by the government?
-Should religious fanatics that receive their orders from their god be allowed to use these so called rights to usurp the authority under which we all function?
Should religious fanatics be allowed to possess arms?
-Should domestic terrorists be allowed to possess arms?
Let’s see if anyone on the gun side has the minerals or the mental capacity to respond.
issac – a counter-question. Back in the day, the American Indian Movement took Alcatraz Island hostage. Where they domestic terrorists?
Paul, I can answer that question for issac; They were domestic terrorists if main stream media says they were.
You don’t like the school you are attending for some reason, go someplace else more to your liking. That’s part of living in a free country, which the USA still is to some degree. Nobody is forced to go to any particular school, at least. Evaluating the opportunities of a situation and making a choice that presents the best outcome in your opinion is part of growing up. Demanding that someone bend to your desires and attend your every needs is simply childish. An attitude they can grow out of if shown the way properly.
These ignorant illiterate creeps sound frighteningly like the ignorant illiterate creeps led by Bundy et al that occupy the wildlife refuge in Oregon. While people like this hope to generate sympathy by portraying themselves as victims they are the exact opposite of victims. They are victimizers and opportunists and have no place in an institution of higher learning. After reading their manifesto, one wonders if basic literacy is no longer a prerequisite for admission to this college.
Back in the 70s in universities across Canada there was a sizable influx of foreign students from Hong Kong and other parts of Asia, primarily due to Hong Kong and Canada being part of the British Commonwealth or other such arrangement, facilitating immigration, and the impending take over of Hong Kong by China.
There were many students that qualified in all subjects but simply did not have sufficient mastery of the English language. This caused a lot of problems when they took their places in classrooms and slowed down the learning process for everyone.
The administrations’ response was to create a set of fast track classes to bring the student’s level of English comprehension and expression up to a level whereby they could participate in the subjects they were studying without impeding the process for all.
After reading this ‘manifesto’ it might be a worthwhile experiment in the US universities and colleges to institute such a program. A sizable portion of university and college students today in the US have such a wanting working ability of the English language that it not only frustrates the learning experience for the rest of the students, it affects them in an adverse and enduring manner. If they obtain a degree and still cannot speak with some level of competence and command, then they have been encouraged to continue on in their initial clumsy manner instead of acquiring a reasonable and workable ability to speak clearly and accurately.
Regarding the dysfunctional conglomeration of ideas and expressions, after their content has registered, the universities and colleges cannot help those missing that many brain cells. The of course, there is Sarah Palin.
This is Latin from SW Missoura: Ya can’t cure an idjit.”
This is from Blazing Saddles: “Where da White women at?”
This is from Al Capone: “We will take that issue up tonight.”
This is from Black Labs Matter: “Woof!”
Next thing they will demand is “instant intercourse”. Of course.
Universitas delenda est.
But first, get rid of all “Studies” majors.
They are a waste of time and a signal of someone who is litigious and therefore unhireable.
Soros is funding this group so they have the money they need to make waves. I am sure they have read Alinsky and they now have zeroed in on the President as their target. I hope he has the support of his Board.
“immediate action from the Africana community will follow.”
Africana huh? Let’s have all the students from Africa, and not double digit generation born in the USA, step up. The rest go back and study grammar and prose.
It doesn’t matter what color these kids are. Threats and ultimatums don’t work. They are idiots.
This poorly written demand letter doesn’t instill much confidence in the academic or intellectual abilities of Oberlin students. If I were the college president, my first thought would have been to question the quality of the admissions process. There are tens of thousands of young people who would cherish the opportunity for an Oberlin education. Perhaps Oberlin should admit FOREIGN black students to fill their diversity quota. I had classes with students from Ethiopia and other African countries. They were quite studious and tended to major in engineering, computer science and other challenging programs. They appreciated the opportunities provided and were quite gracious.
Happy to see someone is stepping up and acting like he is running the asylum?
I am shocked that JT is siding with College President Marvin Krislov, who refuses to give in to Black Lives Matter. Clearly, as any dedicated lefitists nows, anyone who does not agree with Black Lives Matter is a a racist and a bigot. What’s next for the leftist JT? Is he going to next argue that Islam isn’t the religion of peace? That global warming is a hoax? I for one refuse to believe that JT has given up his deeply held leftist belief system and that sooner or later, he will come back to the realization that Black Lives Matter knows what is correct and righteous. We’ll just chalk his latest article here to a brief moment of hysteria and that he will return to his leftist roots.
It is encouraging that he did not cave to unreasonable demands and accompanying threat.
However, let us see how he weathers what follows. He’ll be labeled a racist, of course, and there will be protests. Will reason win out?
Race relations have deteriorated so drastically in the past 8 years. It’s so sad. There is absolutely no comparison to the state of race in the 1960s. And yet now if you disagree with Bernie Sanders you’re antisemitic, with Hillary Clinton you’re a chauvinist (or you’ve turned your back on your own gender), with Obama and you’re racist.
Everyone races to assume that you must disagree based on some severe moral failing, rather than simply talking about positions on issues. You are not qualified to disagree because you must be (fill in the appropriate label of racist, etc.) It’s become a ham-handed attempt to bully anyone who disagrees with ultra-Liberal philosophies. I don’t understand this urge. If someone disagrees with Ben Carson or Carly Fiorina or Donald Trump, I assume it’s because they disagree with their position, not because they are black, or a woman, or a rich white guy.
The trend is divisive, and very troubling. The world would be a better place if we could just talk about issues.
I do not believe that this is what MLK, Jr fought for.
This is all revolutionary lingo. (I wonder where I can get a current lexicon). Find out who’s funding them – they’re just the avant garde in a proxy war.