There is an interesting development in the Clinton email scandal. The investigation has entered a particularly dangerous stage for Clinton with a key aide receiving immunity and interviews scheduled for key associates. The danger is that statements given prosecutors can differ and contradict each other or, worse yet, contradict Clinton. Moreover, such statements could be unknown to Clinton when she speaks with investigators. For that reason, many are likely to view a recent announcement with considerable suspicion that the top four staff members to Clinton have agreed to be represented by the same attorney, Beth Wilkinson. That would allow a degree of coordination or at least confirmation of differing statements or accounts. Since Wilkinson is not allowed to represent multiple clients with conflicts, it would also create a situation where the statements must not conflict in significant ways between the clients and, if they do, she would likely have to remove herself — a move that would likely be known to the Clinton counsel and highlight a potential problem with a given associate. She will represent former Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills, Deputy Chief Jake Sullivan, Mills’ deputy Heather Samuelson, and Clinton spokesman Philippe Reines.
Wilkinson is a top lawyer with close contacts at the Justice Department. She is a logical choice, particularly if you believe that the FBI may push for charges and the only fail-safe would be a refusal by the Justice Department to prosecute.
The joint representation is an extremely important development, which is likely to reassure Clinton’s personal counsel. It is however a curious choice for the individual clients in an investigation that covers a large number of emails and actions over a long period of time. They could have serious potential conflicts of interest in the mishandling of classified evidence or the circumvention of security protocols and rules. There is little reason why all four would prefer the same counsel unless they wanted to present a uniform account. Generally, it is clearly to a person’s advantage to have a single lawyer who is solely and exclusively pursuing your own interest. Moreover, there is little question that the Clinton campaign would prefer key witnesses to be represented jointly. The danger is a “prisoner’s dilemma” scenario where witnesses are unclear what other witnesses might be saying. The concern is that, even if Wilkinson does not share such statements between clients, she would be there to object or potentially steer clients away from conflicting or dangerous departures.
This is not to take away from Wilkinson who is a very accomplished lawyer who prosecuted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh and former Panama dictator Manuel Noriega. She has the experience to foresee the types of dangers that lurk in such interviews, though she is not unique in that sense in this city with a wide array of such experienced counsel.
The most problematic in a joint representation is Sullivan who has repeatedly come up in reports on the circumvention of the secure State department email system and various classified email. Mills is also someone who I believe would be best served with individual counsel. Sullivan and Mills also represent two of the greatest potential threats to Clinton. Samuelson also has some potential liability as the alleged person who sorted through the emails to decide what to delete, including emails now deemed classified.
None of this is meant to suggest any unethical by Wilkinson who has a stellar reputation and can clearly represent all four absent a known conflict or potential conflict in interest. However, such joint defenses always raise concerns over coordinated accounts and shared information. That is likely to be an issue that will be raised by the investigators in the questioning of these witnesses and potential targets.
The DC rule allows for clients to sign an understanding or waiver reflecting realities and risks of multiple clients in the same matter. The rule is below. What is problematic in this case is that this is not a civil but a criminal matter where any conflict could result in both adverse and criminal penalties. It also creates a risk for the lawyer if there are allegations raised later regarding communications or steering between witnesses.
Rules of Professional Conduct: Rule 1.7–Conflict of Interest: General Rule
(a) A lawyer shall not advance two or more adverse positions in the same matter.
(b) Except as permitted by paragraph (c) below, a lawyer shall not represent a client with respect to a matter if:
(1) That matter involves a specific party or parties and a position to be taken by that client in that matter is adverse to a position taken or to be taken by another client in the same matter even though that client is unrepresented or represented by a different lawyer;
(2) Such representation will be or is likely to be adversely affected by representation of another client;
(3) Representation of another client will be or is likely to be adversely affected by such representation;
(4) The lawyer’s professional judgment on behalf of the client will be or reasonably may be adversely affected by the lawyer’s responsibilities to or interests in a third party or the lawyer’s own financial, business, property, or personal interests.
(c) A lawyer may represent a client with respect to a matter in the circumstances described in paragraph (b) above if
(1) Each potentially affected client provides informed consent to such representation after full disclosure of the existence and nature of the possible conflict and the possible adverse consequences of such representation; and
(2) The lawyer reasonably believes that the lawyer will be able to provide competent and diligent representation to each affected client.
(d) If a conflict not reasonably foreseeable at the outset of representation arises under paragraph (b)(1) after the representation commences, and is not waived under paragraph (c), a lawyer need not withdraw from any representation unless the conflict also arises under paragraphs (b)(2), (b)(3), or (b)(4).Comment[1] Rule 1.7 is intended to provide clear notice of circumstances that may constitute a conflict of interest. Rule 1.7(a) sets out the limited circumstances in which representation of conflicting interests is absolutely prohibited even with the informed consent of all involved clients. Rule 1.7(b) sets out those circumstances in which representation is barred in the absence of informed client consent. For the definition of “informed consent,” see Rule 1.0(e). The difference between Rule 1.7(a) and Rule 1.7(b) is that in the former, the lawyer is representing multiple interests in the same matter, while in the latter, the lawyer is representing a single interest, but a client of the lawyer who is represented by different counsel has an interest adverse to that advanced by the lawyer. The application of Rules 1.7(a) and 1.7(b) to specific facts must also take into consideration the principles of imputed disqualification described in Rule 1.10. Rule 1.7(c) states the procedure that must be used to obtain the client’s informed consent if representation is to commence or continue in the circumstances described in Rule 1.7(b). Rule 1.7(d) governs withdrawal in cases arising under Rule 1.7(b)(1).Representation Absolutely Prohibited – Rule 1.7(a)
[2] Institutional interests in preserving confidence in the adversary process and in the administration of justice preclude permitting a lawyer to represent adverse positions in the same matter. For that reason, paragraph (a) prohibits such conflicting representations, with or without client consent.
[3] The same lawyer (or law firm,seeRule 1.10) should not espouse adverse positions in the same matter during the course of any type of representation, whether such adverse positions are taken on behalf of clients or on behalf of the lawyer or an association of which the lawyer is a member. On the other hand, for purposes of Rule 1.7(a), an “adverse” position does not include inconsistent or alternative positions advanced by counsel on behalf of a single client. Rule 1.7(a) is intended to codify the result reached in D.C. Bar Legal Ethics Committee Opinion 204, including the conclusion that a rulemaking whose result will be applied retroactively in pending adjudications is the same matter as the adjudications, even though treated as separate proceedings by an agency. However, if the adverse positions to be taken relate to different matters, the absolute prohibition of paragraph (a) is inapplicable, even though paragraphs (b) and (c) may apply.
[4] The absolute prohibition of paragraph (a) applies only to situations in which a lawyer would be called upon to espouse adverse positions for different clients in the same matter. It is for this reason that paragraph (a) refers to adversity with respect to a “position taken or to be taken” in a matter rather than adversity with respect to the matter or the entire representation. This approach is intended to reduce the costs of litigation in other representations where parties have common, non-adverse interests on certain issues, but have adverse (or contingently or possibly adverse) positions with respect to other issues. If, for example, a lawyer would not be required to take adverse positions in providing joint representation of two clients in the liability phase of a case, it would be permissible to undertake such a limited representation. Then, after completion of the liability phase, and upon satisfying the requirements of paragraph (c) of this rule, and of any other applicable Rules, the lawyer could represent either one of those parties as to the damages phase of the case, even though the other, represented by separate counsel as to damages, might have an adverse position as to that phase of the case. Insofar as the absolute prohibition of paragraph (a) is concerned, a lawyer may represent two parties that may be adverse to each other as to some aspects of the case so long as the same lawyer does not represent both parties with respect to those positions. Such a representation comes within paragraph (b), rather than paragraph (a), and is therefore subject to the consent provisions of paragraph (c).
[5] The ability to represent two parties who have adverse interests as to portions of a case may be limited because the lawyer obtains confidences or secrets relating to a party while jointly representing both parties in one phase of the case. In some circumstances, such confidences or secrets might be useful, against the interests of the party to whom they relate, in a subsequent part of the case. Absent the informed consent of the party whose confidences or secrets are implicated, the subsequent adverse representation is governed by the “substantial relationship” test, which is set forth in Rule 1.9.
[6] The prohibition of paragraph (a) relates only to actual conflicts of positions, not to mere formalities. For example, a lawyer is not absolutely forbidden to provide joint or simultaneous representation if the clients’ positions are only nominally but not actually adverse. Joint representation is commonly provided to incorporators of a business, to parties to a contract, in formulating estate plans for family members, and in other circumstances where the clients might be nominally adverse in some respect but have retained a lawyer to accomplish a common purpose. If no actual conflict of positions exists with respect to a matter, the absolute prohibition of paragraph (a) does not come into play. Thus, in the limited circumstances set forth in Opinion 143 of the D.C. Bar Legal Ethics Committee, this prohibition would not preclude the representation of both parties in an uncontested divorce proceeding, there being no actual conflict of positions based on the facts presented in Opinion 143. For further discussion of common representation issues, including intermediation, see Comments [14]-[18].
Representation Conditionally Prohibited – Rule 1.7(b)
[7] Paragraphs (b) and (c) are based upon two principles: (1) that a client is entitled to wholehearted and zealous representation of its interests, and (2) that the client as well as the lawyer must have the opportunity to judge and be satisfied that such representation can be provided. Consistent with these principles, paragraph (b) provides a general description of the types of circumstances in which representation is improper in the absence of informed consent. The underlying premise is that disclosure and informed consent are required before assuming a representation if there is any reason to doubt the lawyer’s ability to provide wholehearted and zealous representation of a client or if a client might reasonably consider the representation of its interests to be adversely affected by the lawyer’s assumption of the other representation in question. Although the lawyer must be satisfied that the representation can be wholeheartedly and zealously undertaken, if an objective observer would have any reasonable doubt on that issue, the client has a right to disclosure of all relevant considerations and the opportunity to be the judge of its own interests.
[8] A client may, on occasion, adopt unreasonable positions with respect to having the lawyer who is representing that client also represent other parties. Such an unreasonable position may be based on an aversion to the other parties being represented by a lawyer, or on some philosophical or ideological ground having no foundation in the Rules regarding representation of conflicting interests. Whatever difficulties may be presented for the lawyer in such circumstances as a matter of client relations, the unreasonable positions taken by a client do not fall within the circumstances requiring notification and informed consent. Clients have broad discretion to terminate their representation by a lawyer and that discretion may generally be exercised on unreasonable as well as reasonable grounds.
[9] If the lawyer determines or can foresee that an issue with respect to the application of paragraph (b) exists, the only prudent course is for the lawyer to make disclosure, pursuant to paragraph (c), to each affected client and enable each to determine whether in its judgment the representation at issue is likely to affect its interests adversely.
[10] Paragraph (b) does not purport to state a uniform rule applicable to cases in which two clients may be adverse to each other in a matter in which neither is represented by the lawyer or in a situation in which two or more clients may be direct business competitors. The matter in which two clients are adverse may be so unrelated or insignificant as to have no possible effect upon a lawyer’s ability to represent both in other matters. The fact that two clients are business competitors, standing alone, is usually not a bar to simultaneous representation. Thus, in a matter involving a specific party or parties, paragraphs (b)(1) and (c) require notice and informed consent if the lawyer will take a position on behalf of one client adverse to another client even though the lawyer represents the latter client only on an unrelated position or in an unrelated matter. Paragraphs (b)(2), (3), (4) and (c) require disclosure and informed consent in any situation in which the lawyer’s representation of a client may be adversely affected by representation of another client or by any of the factors specified in paragraph (b)(4)
Who is paying Wilkinson????
Wilkinson is probably (or soon to be) on the Sec of State payroll. The public can pay her salary while she defends Clinton’s criminal syndicate, till Clinton is crowned Queen, at which time she can pardon all including herself. All while Dem and Rep Congress critters, their MSM cronies, and the brain dead public swallow it whole. Redux of DC Mayor Marion Barry, but on the national level, and felonies that virtually positively leaked Top Secrets to our #1 enemies (it’s virtually impossible her $5k private server was not hacked).
Welcome to Woody Allen’s “Bananas” Republic.
Seriously, it appears that Clinton’s closest aide Ms. Huma Abeddin, was on four simultaneous payrolls: Sec of State w/Hilary, Clinton’s private aid, the Clinton Foundation, and at least one PAC supporting the Clinton Crime Syndicate.
Authors of political fiction wish they could imagine stories with so much meat on the bone!
@Roger J, remember that kid?
The kid that stood up and said, “I’m with Bernie Sanders but I wanted to ask you a question…” The look on Clinton’s face as she listened, her stance. She was very defensive, and ended up talking back to the kid.
I wonder if he’s still alive or roughed up by Clinton’s goons. I can’t remember his name but he had curly hair, is portly, and used to wear a blazer and shirt. If he is not alive, then Clinton must have gotten her hands dirty.
steve:
Wouldn’t she just need their written consent if there were conflicts of interest? I wonder if these people are devoted fans willing to fall on their swords for their Queen. And I agree with you on Whitewater.
My biggest complaints about the Duopoly are a complete lack of accountability and the clearinghouse of favors for special interests. And she’s hip deep in it.
But I still think nothing will ever stick to her. That Teflon coating is seriously resistant to scratches and high heat.
I hope Clinton ends up making so many mistakes in court, despite the fact Wilkinson’s competency.
@Steve Groen
That’s an interesting law in California. I have to ask. Was Beth Wilkinson representing Hillary Clinton before a trial in California? If so, then Beth can’t take them on. My guess is that Wilkinson is likely to represent Clinton somewhere else where that rule of law doesn’t apply to her.
Texan Polygynist writes, “That’s an interesting law in California. I have to ask. Was Beth Wilkinson representing Hillary Clinton before a trial in California? If so, then Beth can’t take them on. My guess is that Wilkinson is likely to represent Clinton somewhere else where that rule of law doesn’t apply to her.”
The “law” is really an ethics rule here and similar to that in most states. I haven’t heard anything about Ms. Wilkinson before Prof. Turley posted this thread, but my guess is that Hillary has a host of experienced former federal prosecutors representing her in the background while Ms. Wilkinson is helping the witnesses.
You see, this is why the Clintons get away with utter lawlessness time and again. She may now have some control over the very witnesses who could do her damage.
This Clinton political machine is very much part of the entrenched establishment in Washington, where our government representatives are not held accountable.
Nick, people have DIED because of the Clintons. They have friends who “play rough.” Not to worry – Bill and Hillary Clinton are truly above the law, and will never serve a day. Frankly, I don’t know why the FBI is even bothering with the investigation – perhaps it’s “pro forma.”
SMH! Politics just gets slimier and nastier every day. Is there an honest person running for office in this country? And these creeps think WE can’t think for ourselves. I don’t think anyone in DC gives a damn about the people. All they want is to better themselves and TELL us what is good for us. Corruption runs rampant in our country to the point where votes don’t even count. Hillary Clinton leads the pack and her followers are blind mice.
They’re taking Ben Franklin’s advice….
“We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”
Steve, If she hasn’t played in minefields as a child, she is in one now. People have gone to prison because of the Clinton’s. They have been disbarred and/or sacrificed their careers because of them. They are the consummate Machiavellian pols and they will use any means necessary to succeed and survive.
Nick, what you’ve said, at least about Slick Willie is true, and I know Hillary’s playing the same game. Besides, she represents the status quo, and a global economy propped up with our military is unsustainable.
I’ll stick with Prof. Turley’s thought that Ms. Wilkinson is a competent attorney and knows what she’s doing. If, after all’s said and done, she immediately resigns her bar membership and retires to some angelic Tahitian island she’s just purchased, well, then we’ll know you were wholly correct.
I’ve never, ever, been a Clinton fan from Whitewater (which I think was a storefront cloaked as a real estate development) forward. I wanted to like the guy and his wife, but his versions of so many indiscretions reached a critical mass where crying “fox!” lost my attention. And her agenda was clear when she didn’t divorce the cad after the blue dress. Then, we get the “[depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is,” among other lessons in evasion, which were so outrageous to anyone with any sense of integrity that he became a eye-and-ear-irritant to me.
If by “brilliant” you mean highly questionable, unethical and quite possibly illegal, I’m sure that we all agree with you. The system is set up, in such a way, to prevent these games, making it a violation to represent multiple clients under various circumstances. The system, once again, is turning a blind eye to this flagrant violation of ethics, which is well-established law. Certain murderers and bank robbers are brilliant, as well, but they shouldn’t garner our admiration and respect.
Nobody ever said Hillary was stupid. You may not like her, but you got to admit that strategically, it’s a brilliant move.
Names belong, not belonging.
Terms such as “stellar reputation” and “accomplished lawyer” shouldn’t be employed to describe an allegedly educated and experienced attorney who is, by all accounts, about to embark on a highly unethical, and, possibly, illegal journey–one which is fraught with known and undeniable conflicts of interest. Change the name of the attorney and the names of the clients and JT would be singing a completely different tune, questioning the ethics of the attorney and the fairness of the entire process if these were some Joe Schmoes. How about some consistency, JT? Ethics and fairness shouldn’t be so malleable just because the names belonging to high profile individuals.
Here, it’s Rule 3-310(C). “A member [of the State Bar of California] shall not, without the informed written consent of each client: (1) Accept representation of more than one client in a matter in which the interests of the clients potentially conflict; . . .”
I’ve never been able to figure out how an attorney could adequately describe in writing all potential conflicts and obtain informed consent. There are just too many circumstances that could arise which cannot be anticipated in writing before the fact.
Beth Wilkinson must have played in minefields as a child.
Such conflicts are waiveable
Charles – in general I would agree that a joined defense would be the best option. However, as we have seen from the emails, some have more exposure than others. This could get messy.
BTW, the attorney will not say who is picking up the cost of their defense.
Just how much coercion was used in forcing this representation on these 4 underlings.
This attorney opened a boutique firm where she can represent them all for the same price. They are saving money this way.
Unless they all plan to answer “No comment” I do not see a way out of this. I am not surprised the DoJ is allowing it, however it could be interesting.
This is Exhibit 8754 showing just how slimy the Clinton’s are.