As the country mourns the massacre in Orlando, the police have identified the murderer as Omar Mateen, 29, from Port St. Lucie in Florida. He was born to Afghan parents who came to this country in the 1980s. He is responsible for the largest massacre of people in U.S. history after killed at least 50 people at a gay nightclub called Pulse in Orlando. Mateen reportedly called 911 shortly before the shooting and swore allegiance to the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
Mateen shows the twisted religious training of ISIS supporters, who believe that God supports their burning 19 girls alive when they refuse to be sex slaves or, in this case, massacring innocent people at a nightclub. They are told that God celebrates such atrocities as fulfillment of Islamic values.
At least 50 people were killed and 53 others were injured in the shooting.
Mateen’s father, Mir Seddique, told NBC News his son became angry when he saw two men kissing in Miami several months ago. So Mateen sees two men kissing and months later massacres dozens? I must confess to be a tad skeptical that there was no other influence. Mir Seddique is quoted as saying “This has nothing to do with religion.” However, his allegiance to ISIS and deep anger with homosexuals undermine that view. Indeed, he appears to be a follower of a radical Islamic cleric and ex-con.
The family is clearly traumatized and issued a statement that “We are saying we are apologizing for the whole incident. We weren’t aware of any action he is taking. We are in shock like the whole country.” However, the Washington Post reports that the father is an outspoken supporter of the Afghan Taliban.
ABC News reported that Mateen was divorced in 2011 and was accused of a history of spousal abuse. His wife told the Washington Post that she met him online eight years ago and that was “was not a stable person.” She said that small things like not doing the laundry would result in beatings. Mateen had two firearms licenses, a security officer license and a statewide firearms license. He had worked for the security firm G4S since 2007.
His history would suggest another disturbed and violent individual drawn to ISIS, which offers religious legitimation for such anger and savagery. In 2013, Sheikh Farrokh Sekaleshfar spoke at the Husseini Islamic Center in the Orlando suburb of Sanford, Florida, and called for death to homosexuals. He is shown in the video below as saying “Death is the sentence. We know there’s nothing to be embarrassed about this, death is the sentence.”
WHY on Earth would you see it as a punishment to better regulate the access to AR-15s and AK47s?
That is insane.
There is no second amendment in France, yet somehow terrorists managed to acquire firearms. The second amendment does not permit the use of destructive devices such as certain explosives, yet, they manage to be used by terrorists.
History is replete with examples of governments or politicians using tragedies to their own advantage and civil rights and liberty are often the first to go from a population that sometimes readily hands them away.
Remember that the average law-abiding American citizen is not the terrorist here. Why should we be punished?
His name is not Omar, but am sure he is a Muslim too
https://twitter.com/MarkHarrisNYC/status/742115162216366080/photo/1
Po….I think the 353 “acts of terror” you refer to are from the Mass Shooting Tracker.
The defination of “mass shootings” can vary…..evidently, the “old” FBI defination of “4 or more killed” in a single incident is at odds with the “4 or more injured” in the Mass Shooting Tracker’s calculation.
Drive by shootings probably account for a sizable minority of the MST’s 353 total, and I would guess that “domestic murders”, when a spouse or other family member shoots other relatives.
Not to minimize or downplay the tragedy of these types of murders and injuries, but they are not directed by or encouraged by an international terrorist organization.
That’s an important distinction in a realistic appraisal of the threat from terrorist ORGANIZATIONS.
Tom, even if we cleanse the number of 2 thirds, it still leaves 100…so I still say that 3 or 4 out of 100 ain’t sizable.
Additionally, we do have terrorist ORGANIZATIONS right here, domestically born and bred, which are pretty adamant about what their aim is, as shown on that map of hate I linked above.
Meanwhile, here is an interesting resource.
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
First of all, let’s have a correction please. The largest massacre in American history occurred at Wounded Knee on December 29, 1890, on the Lakota Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota. Approximately 300 Lakota were slaughtered by the US 7th Cavalry, though some reports put the number as low 12 150. Still the largest known massacre either way.
Second, in addition to blaming the individual who is directly responsible for these deaths, we must look at the American worship of the 2nd Amendment which is so fervent that it prevents our society from doing anything to make the purchase and ownership of weapons by someone so clearly unstable, almost impossible.
Finally, let’s forget about whether radical fundamentalist Christians or Muslims are worse. The FACT is that they are both the same. This morning the most excellent Christian Lt. Governor of Texas tweeted his response to the massacre:
“Do not be deceived.
God will not be mocked
A man reaps what he sows”
Galatians 6:7
So lets not split hairs here. The individual who shot these people is the one responsible. Our society that continues to support and defend religious bigots and extremists of ANY stripe, while fetishizing the 2nd Amendment carries the burden for the next massacre, and the next, and the next.
There is no such thing as Islamophobia. Fear of Muslims is very rational. Even Muslims are afraid of other Muslims and with good reason! That is. It to say that there are not Muslims that are as horrified by these attacks as I am.
I cannot fathom how liberals and progressives ignore the clear evidence that fundamentalist Muslims are against freedoms that they allegedly hold dear…..freedom of so each, freedom to love who and how one wants, just for starters.
My condolences to the families, many of whom are still wondering where their loved ones are.
This is what I was talking about yesterday. If lawyers, judges, lawmakers, officials and the public would follow the Constitution, this might not have happened as it did. Or at least the local police could have follow him around after having been notified by the FBI. Not much could be done, of course if he got weapons illegally. That is what happened in gun controlled France.
To help rid us of this problem, we must keep Muslims from immigrating, and we must stop the political correctness about Mohammad (he was vile). And we need to say so repeatedly to shame young American Muslims who we must live with into rejecting Islam.
The FEDS have absolutely NO authority to infringe on arms. But he states do. The US Constitution bars feds, not states. Thomas Jefferson said as much about speech and the First Amendment. He said the feds had no authority whatsoever to infringe, but the states did have a right.
This is about WHO the Constitution limits and what is limited. And it is about the tenth amendment.
Here is how it could have worked. All Florida gun shops (and Gun Show owners) would be notified by local or state officials that Mateen is a shady character (because the FBI knew he was). Florida law would kick in and bar the gun sale. Then the gun owner would have to contact the police to let them know Mateen tried to buy a weapon.
Then the local cops follow the guy around like he was a KKK member!
And remember this: the wolf pack (governments) mass murdered 100,000,000 unarmed civilians in their OWN governments last century. They are always the biggest threat to life and limb. The lone wolves are a drop in the bucket in comparison.
And that is why it cannot be about the feds restricting guns. They must remain wholly harmless and without power. There will always be killings. But give it to the states tools to work with, where it belongs. Bar Muslim immigration forever. And shame American Muslims about their vile sex-slave trafficking prophet who had sex with a little girl.
Where I come from that is criminal. And for a “religion” to promote it is unacceptable.
Po
It is usually the case when a person swears loyalty to an Islamic terrorist organization, then commits a terrorist act, that he was motivated by religious extremism. Arguing that ISIS is a secular organization would be absurd.
islam teaches to kill the homosexual. Christianity teaches to hate the sin …not the sinner. Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery go and sin no more. islam offers 3 options to infidels ( all who are not muslem )….convert, become a slave ( pay lifetime tribute) or die. To homosexuals it is pretty much Die. Maybe one should try researching beyond the backs of cereal boxes before engaging in discussing subjects of serious portent
Riesling
1, June 12, 2016 at 4:09 pm
RIP to those who have been murdered. Strength to their families and friends. Full recovery to the injured.
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Well said, Riesling.
Nice leap, Prof, digging out a video from an unrelated individual to build up the case that this individual was islamically motivated is pretty low.
On one hand, accepting the father’s words that the son was homophobically motivated, yet rejecting on the other his words that it was not religiously motivated?
Junk w/ the first, “Yeah but Christians are worse” comment. He gets a vegan brownie as reward.
RIP to those who have been murdered. Strength to their families and friends. Full recovery to the injured.
Yeh, this is Obama’s fault. Keep telling yourself that. As for the teachings of Islam, I’ve heard equally hateful anti-homosexual rhetoric from christian clergy and plenty of right wing theists. From how many pulpits will there be talk of reaping what is sown? I can’t help but notice how the response to this horror is remarkably muted, relative to the incidents that preceded it. Is this because the news splashes the word “Gay” in so many headlines, or are we truly becoming immune to the sickness rooted in our culture? Neither answer offers much in the way of encouragement.
Obama feeling compelled in his brief address to continually use the word “hate” is telling. All terrorist killings are hate. But, Obama had to elevate the victims since they are protected by hate crime laws. I didn’t hear “hate” emphasized in the Cali terrorist attacks. Govt. health inspectors are not a protected class. In the mindset of liberals, killing people protected by hate crimes is worse than killing just regular folk.
ISIS is our generation’s Nazi’s. However, we don’t have our Churchill.
Nancy, Obama will never do anything about Americans being killed by ISIS on American soil. He does not believe ISIS is at war with all cultures different from theirs. We have the first President that makes a speech instead of protecting the American people. Was there not one person in that club with a gun? Apparently not. This is what Hillary wants. No guns for Americans to protect themselves. But ISIS will have guns. The American people know we are at war. If only the President fought that war. I’m sick of his speeches. They save no lives, protect no one.
This should help Trump’s campaign….
the guy worked for the FEDS
no red flags there – just ignore that
Just remember…islam teaches that to lie and deceive the infidel is justified and will be rewarded. There doesn’t need to be a direct connection to isis. The koran is what teaches and demands these acts of violence toward all who do not worship allah. Wake up you sleeping idiots !!!
Horrible terroristic attack in Florida! When will the current admin wake up and realize we are being systematically attacked?? I believe Obama is clueless regarding the threat OR it is something more which I can’t even put into words! I never thought I would live to see this in our country! Keep getting the word out!!!
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His wife said that small things like not doing the laundry would result in beatings. Did she report this to police? Did they not pursue it? Or did she just not report it in the first place? In Wisconsin we have mandatory arrests for domestic abuse reports. If he had been convicted of the crimes that she said he perpetrated, he would not have passed a firearms background check. Either she didn’t do what she should have done, or the police didn’t.